MO - Furious Friends Demand Answers After 3 Men Found Dead at Kansas City Home Days After Watching Football Game, January 2024

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al66pine said:
Why Did Fiance Go thru Window to Enter House?

snipped for focus @Forest_Wood Thanks for your post.
Someone here said - In the process of doing that, fiance could have been shot. Maybe seriously injured or killed?

Could have been shot whether just lifting off screen & popping the window latch or actually breaking glass.

Yes, breaking in thru window seems like an act of desperation.
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Maybe because the dude whose house they were at was ignoring everyone’s calls for help? Just sayin’ .
 
al66pine said:
Moving Bodies After Death?

@SMK777 Good point about moving bodies.

I wonder if there were tracks in snow, indicating dragging?

Or perhaps Livor Mortis* indicated bodies were moved?
"... can also be used by forensic investigators to determine whether or not a body has been moved. For instance, if the body is found lying prone, but the pooling is present on the deceased's back, investigators can conclude that the body was originally positioned supine.[4] The colour of the pooling can help in determining cause of death. Carbon monoxide poisoning causes a red colouration."

IF LE released info about bodies being moved or if they think that (may have) happened, I missed it.

@SMK777? Anyone?

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* Livor mortis - Wikipedia
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No, you definitely didn’t miss it because law enforcement never said anything about it —to be honest, they simply repeatedly stressed that there was no evidence of foul play and that they were not investigating this as a homicide. So we’re just speculating.

Now you may ask in light of the above, why anyone would be speculating.

I think it’s because there’s a hunch, a strong intuition that police were a little too quick in their dismissal of homicide. They’re allowed to lie and in fact may be doing so. Time will tell all.
 
Rigatoni999 said:

MyBelle​

Are we certain she broke into the home? That is a crime. If she did break in, I certainly understand why the man moved out.

What? Please.
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Bbm.
Ita.
She effected an entrance out of fear, after her calls and maybe texts -- were missed or ignored.
The deceased man's car was there , and she didn't know if he was ill & need an ambulance, or whatever.
Sadly, it turned out to be so much worse !!
Omo.
 
tlcya said:
if you are going to premeditate the drugging your very good long time friends I would think that you would have a better plan for what comes after other than dragging them out to your backyard and simply leaving them there to die, and then continuing to leave them there in plain view to be discovered days later by one of the very worried friends/family whose calls and texts you have been ignoring finds them. I don't think the parents theory holds water. JMO
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Agree. And buy 4 tickets to next week's Chiefs game at around $1,000 per seat, for all of them, including him, to go to.
 
MyBelle said:
Wasn't there snow on the ground in Kansas City?

JMO
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My dad sent me the attached photo on Jan. 9th at 10:36am PT (12:36 CT). He lives on the Kansas side of the KC metro area. The snow didn’t come until the night of January 8th / early morning of January 9th.
 

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Forest_Wood said:
I don't understand why a woman who suspected the worst would break into someone's home without calling the police for a wellness check. To me, it seems like she suspected something bad had happened, yet was not comfortable letting the police handle it, possibly because she knew there were drugs involved imo. I imagine she would have noticed her fiancé's vehicle parked on the street before breaking in too. People don't just randomly break in to others' homes like that instead of letting the police handle it. I mean, there could have been a gas leak in the home for all she knew but she decides to break in. Peculiar. MOO.
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December said:
Respectfully snipped..

I just think the fiancee knew JW as well, thought he wasn't home BUT if he turned out to be there, she knew he would not shoot her or react in a terribly hostile manner so she didn't call the police until she was certain she needed them. If he got upset about the window and her being there (say no one had died and there was no reason for her to be there) maybe she knew he would accept an apology and some $$ to fix the window.
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Honestly, she couldn't get in contact with JW or anyone else, she most likely thought JW could have been injured, missing, dead like everyone else. Because she is telling her story after the fact and in extreme distress, it is getting blurred. IMOO
 
neesaki said:
Maybe she wasn’t all that aware of anything like a “wellness check”.
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JMHO but everybody in their 30's and 40's is on the internet, knows what a wellness check is, especially if your fiance likes to drink a lot during football games and sometimes goes over to friend's houses to party. And after 2 days of disappearing when he's supposed to be at work. I agree with the poster who hypothesized she had an inkling something was wrong and did not want to call the cops, who would for sure have entered after 2 days of missing work and a car in the driveway, and numerous attempts by family memebers to reach the renter by text and IM's. JMO.
 
al66pine said:
Moving Bodies After Death?

@SMK777 Good point about moving bodies. Well, a possibility.

I wonder if there were tracks in snow, indicating dragging?

Or perhaps Livor Mortis* indicated bodies were moved?
"... can also be used by forensic investigators to determine whether or not a body has been moved. For instance, if the body is found lying prone, but the pooling is present on the deceased's back, investigators can conclude that the body was originally positioned supine.[4] The colour of the pooling can help in determining cause of death. Carbon monoxide poisoning causes a red colouration."

IF LE released info about bodies being moved or if they think that (may have) happened, I missed it.

@SMK777? Anyone?

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* Livor mortis - Wikipedia
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It was just speculating as my post stated.
 
Putting myself in the fiancee's shoes.

If I had not heard from my future husband a day and a half after I expected to, had called and texted him and people who might know where he was and received no response, then went over to the house where I thought he had been headed the last time I saw him, saw his car there, knocked on the door and received no answer...

I think my first course of action would be to try to get into that house ASAP. I would have been frantic and not thinking clearly enough to realize that I might be putting myself in danger and it would be wiser to call the police.

We never really know how we'll act in a situation until we're in it, right?

The problem I'm having is IMO we have very little in the way of facts. Different news outlets are reporting different things. The sequence of events I imagine myself in above might not be in the correct order; some of them might not have happened at all.

I think this lack of facts is one of the reasons this case is so maddening.
 
10ofRods said:
She says she broke into the home. There are pictures showing that someone removed a screen from a front-facing basement window. She says she broke a basement window and went in, then up to the main house and then found a body on the "back porch."

This DM article purports to show that porch, btw:

www.dailymail.co.uk

3 men mysteriously found dead in pal's yard 'may have taken drugs'

Three Kansas City Chiefs fans who were mysteriously found dead in their friend's backyard may have taken drugs - but cops are still waiting for the toxicology report.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

DM got the pictures from a real estate listing and it does appear to be the right house.

In the early articles, you can see the screen I mention. I have no reason to disbelieve the girlfriend.
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Isn’t it weird she wouldn’t go to the back door before breaking in?
 
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