MO - Furious Friends Demand Answers After 3 Men Found Dead at Kansas City Home Days After Watching Football Game, January 2024

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SMK777 said:
I believe #4 was Willis himself.
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Ohh yea.. thank you.

I thought his lawyer said there was a 5th person there that night as well?
I'm trying to find where I saw that.
I am also going with Fentanyl overdose. If they all took something at the same time and walked out back and died together, It's the only thing that makes sense.
Willis in a drug induced coma type deal inside and not hearing or responding.
I guess we wait on toxicology. The whole thing is weird!
 
IzzyBlanche said:
I dunno. I'm a college football fan since I'm 11 years old, grew up with multiple fellow rabid fans, went to a football college, married a pro football fan, now work with a LOT of rabid pro fans, and I have never heard of fans going from place to place to watch one game.

You go where you're going to watch it and stay there until it's over, unless it's obvious what they outcome will be and you are not one of those diehard fans who watches every second of the game, so you leave.

So I'm skeptical that they were watching the game in several different places, unless that means that each of them watched the game in a different place and they all met up afterward at JW's house from their respective game-watching venues.

But I highly doubt they were together and moving around from place to place watching the game.
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Well, we are diehard college and pro football fans and our Detroit LIONS are on a roll ,,,,,finally !! LOL

We watched 1st half at one bar, stopped at friends football party during half time and watched 2nd half at another bar.
and we weren't the only ones... some that were at the 1st half of game showed up where we were for 2nd half. and some started showing up for 2nd half at halftime as we were leaving the 1st place,

Might not be a common thing to do , but around here it is.
But we are in a small community so there's that.
Not sure how it would be in other places.
 
As of this post, the cause/manner of death of these men has yet to be released to the public. It is fine to reasonably discuss what may have led to their deaths based on the facts of this case. Discussing the specifics of certain drugs and how they're made, sold, administered, or counteracted quickly derails the thread when there has been no confirmation that drugs (or anything else for that matter) played a role in their deaths. Generalized discussion and posts that don't directly relate to this case are considered off-topic and will be removed.

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Spartygirl said:
Well, we are diehard college and pro football fans and our Detroit LIONS are on a roll ,,,,,finally !! LOL

We watched 1st half at one bar, stopped at friends football party during half time and watched 2nd half at another bar.
and we weren't the only ones... some that were at the 1st half of game showed up where we were for 2nd half. and some started showing up for 2nd half at halftime as we were leaving the 1st place,

Might not be a common thing to do , but around here it is.
But we are in a small community so there's that.
Not sure how it would be in other places.
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It is totally a thing to do here for the Chiefs, too.
I live in an entertainment district in KC. I hear it!
 
LeahBee said:
This is so bizarre.
Let's say the men were still alive when they ended up outside - unless all three were completely incapacitated, wouldn't at least one go back into the house or a neighbour's (if locked out) just meters away? Once they saw their friend start to die?

I know hypothermia can hit hard and fast and make thinking difficult but being so close to the indoors you'd think at least one would have the wherewithal to go inside and get his buddies inside before they all collapsed and died at the exact same time.

Really do wonder if they died inside and were dragged out back.
Imo
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I wonder if they have been drinking Iland just fall asleep and also I wonder if something was in the drink just saying
 
Why Did Fiance Go thru Window to Enter House?
Forest_Wood said:
I don't understand why a woman who suspected the worst would break into someone's home without calling the police for a wellness check. To me, it seems like she suspected something bad had happened, yet was not comfortable letting the police handle it.... there could have been a gas leak in the home for all she knew but she decides to break in. Peculiar. MOO.
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snipped for focus @Forest_Wood Thanks for your post.
Someone here said - In the process of doing that, fiance could have been shot. Maybe seriously injured or killed?

Could have been shot whether just lifting off screen & popping the window latch or actually breaking glass.

Yes, breaking in thru window seems like an act of desperation.
imo
 
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“Then in the early morning hours, around 2 a.m., he believes, he got sleepy and said, I’m going to crash on the couch,” Picerno said. “He said goodbye to his buddies, and he thought that they left out the front door.”

Picerno said the fifth man, who has not been identified by police, left about an hour before Willis went to the couch.

Questions remains as authorities continue investigation into death of 3 Northland men​

The attorney of the man who lived in the home where three dead bodies were found is sharing their side of the story after backlash on social media.
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If JW is asleep on the couch, he didn't hear 3 grown men reenter his home on the first floor?
 
Mama-dukes said:
Never thought about this but now I am wow
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The question re their dying inside but being moved outside, would be why law enforcement was unable to determine this. Or were they?
Believable though because I just read a case where a girl died of fentanyl poisoning at a party. Her mother found her dead in her bed in the morning— but it turned out that to deflect criminal culpability, party goers had moved her dead body from the party house to the bedroom of her own home.
 
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SMK777 said:
The question re their dying inside but being moved outside, would be why law enforcement was unable to determine this. Or were they?
Believable though because I just read a case where a girl died of fentanyl poisoning at a party. Her mother found her dead in her bed in the morning— but it turned out that to deflect criminal culpability, party goers had moved her from the party house to the bedroom of her own home.
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I could see them starting 2 die and whoever is in the house help them outside if and when they could
 
Mama-dukes said:
I could see them starting 2 die and whoever is in the house help them outside if and when they could
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And I think the main reason this is plausible is because we live in an era where people are conscious of how much criminal liability there is for sharing drugs with people, having people overdose in your residence, etc.
 
Maybe JW has a time he thought they left or a time he thinks he fell asleep. It sounds like guy #5 left before any of that happened. So, maybe it can be determined from his phone (since presumably it left the immediate area) some kind of time when probably everyone was still awake/alive.

MSM gave JW's job info that is somewhere in the thread. Idk what kind of scientist one has to specifically be in order to work that job, but to me i would guess biologist. But, idk.

I think JW might want to go to a doctor because they sound like they might have gotten into something strange. For all we know it was just bad food that got everything started. We don't know what else was in the backyard. Maybe those guys threw up or something.

Guy #5, since he was there less time, possibly didn't eat or drink or take anything (i mean "take" as in consume).
 
Heaven Leigh said:
Ohh yea.. thank you.

I thought his lawyer said there was a 5th person there that night as well?
I'm trying to find where I saw that.
I am also going with Fentanyl overdose. If they all took something at the same time and walked out back and died together, It's the only thing that makes sense.
Willis in a drug induced coma type deal inside and not hearing or responding.
I guess we wait on toxicology. The whole thing is weird!
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There was. There is a picture of five guys. The two guys with their faces blurred were there. One is JW, we don't know the other person's name. I imagine it could be found out somehow, but it could not be posted here. So i have not looked and am just calling him guy #5.
 
SMK777 said:
The question re their dying inside but being moved outside, would be why law enforcement was unable to determine this. Or were they?
Believable though because I just read a case where a girl died of fentanyl poisoning at a party. Her mother found her dead in her bed in the morning— but it turned out that to deflect criminal culpability, party goers had moved her dead body from the party house to the bedroom of her own home.
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Wasn't there snow on the ground in Kansas City?

JMO
 
cuffem said:
There is no evidence their deaths were caused on purpose. I believe it was accidental and CYA afterward.
All speculation.
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I will say i severely doubt a person would pose for a picture a few hours beforehand unless he just wanted to go to prison for the rest of his life.

So... Yeah, i don't think whatever went wrong was supposed to happen at all. And will allow that if there was something at the party that killed three men, it is very likely it knocked JW out cold for a while. But, he was in a warm house on either a couch or a bed, so that helped him a lot.
 
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