MO - Furious Friends Demand Answers After 3 Men Found Dead at Kansas City Home Days After Watching Football Game, January 2024

[SMK777]

He may have 30 years experience, but I don't believe he's ever been involved in a high-profile case with national interest before and I think he's out of his element.

I've seen it before with attorneys in other cases. They see their chance to become the next Johnny Cochrane and lift their practice into the stratosphere. So they focus on doing tv interviews and getting their name in the papers instead of representing their client.

Edit - Reminds me of Monica Lewinsky's first attorney, William Ginsburg. He was a friend of the family, but acted like a total buffoon on the national stage. That guy was a trip.

Good point!

 

[arielilane]

@SMK777 thanks for posting the video!

AB: Do you know when speaking with your client if there were drugs involved with the party of the football watching that night?

Attorney: There are some things I'm not going to be allowed to comment on based on confidentiality reasons, in addition, to the gentlemen that are deceased - in addition, to JW (his client) that was present. I’m not going to comment on anything about the activities that were going on there other than the fact that was one that they were there and they were socializing after the Chiefs game.


Attorney: the fifth person (who was not named) supports what his client stated what went on at the time.

Attorney claims his client works remotely and did not leave his residence. They watched the Chiefs game at various places, subsequently, went back to his client's place to play video games and hangout. At some point, his client got tired, said their goodbyes and let (escorted) the men out.

His client believes they came back into his house. His client has since moved out of the property.

His client has known two of the deceased men for over 20 years, went to high school together.


A few questions:

• Did counsel contradict his previous statement that his client was leaving home sporadically?
• So did client escort the fifth unknown man out the front door too?

moo
edited: corrected third to fifth good grief, I can't keep up

 

[Chimera]

PICTURED: Kansas City Chiefs fan whose three friends died in backyard

Jordan Willis' is an award-winning HIV scientist who has moved home and deleted all of his social media after three of his friends were mysteriously found dead on his property.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Willis with the two 'light of his life' - Sadie and Daisy. He says he didn't leave his home between January 7 and 9, not even to walk the dogs.
One would assume he let his dogs out to relieve themselves ?
How did he miss the man in the back porch ?
JW may be entirely blameless but since there are three dead people on his property; of course there are going to be questions.
One would hope he is being as candid and straightforward as possible with LE, for instance.
The entire sad picture is becoming more clear in regards to the unnamed 'buddy'.....
So sorry for the men's families !
Omo.

 

[Chimera]

@SMK777 thanks for posting the video!

AB: Do you know when speaking with your client if there were drugs involved with the party of the football watching that night?

Attorney: There are some things I'm not going to be allowed to comment on based on confidentiality reasons, in addition, to the gentlemen that are deceased - in addition, to JW (his client) that was present. I’m not going to comment on anything about the activities that were going on there other than the fact that was one that they were there and they were socializing after the Chiefs game.


Attorney: the third person (who was not named) supports what his client stated what went on at the time.

Attorney claims his client works remotely and did not leave his residence. They watched the Chiefs game at various places, subsequently, went back to his client's place to play video games and hangout. At some point, his client got tired, said their goodbyes and let (escorted) the men out.

His client believes they came back into his house. His client has since moved out of the property.

His client has known two of the deceased men for over 20 years, went to high school together.


A few questions:

• Did counsel contradict his previous statement that his client was leaving home sporadically?
• So did client escort the third unknown man out the front door too?

moo

Ok, I now have more questions ... not less !
According to the link I posted, the host bid them goodnight and went off to sleep whilst they were still there ?
The story is all over the place and I'd put it down to varied/careless reporting -- except many reports seem to be quoting people, as opposed to speculation ?
Omo.

 

[Teche]

From the NewsNation Banfield interview, I also missed the part about where they had watched the game, and then went to JW’s house after the game to play video games and hang out.

I love her question about the fifth guy who was there, when the attorney says “he’s not really a mystery person”.
Banfield: “I’m so glad he’s not a mystery person. What’s his name? “.
Of course then he can’t reveal his name, lol.

She also pointedly asks if drugs were involved. He states not able to answer the question about drugs, due to ‘confidentiality’… but the way he does it he seems to me to be admitting there were drugs there.

The attorney stated:

“The basic scenario is they had watched the Chiefs game in a couple of different places. They went back to his place afterwards to play some video games and hang out. And at some point during that process, he got tired and he fell asleep. … When he woke up, they were gone,” Picerno added.
And he states that “they were going to leave and he escorted them to the door. “

The front door, not the back door. And he saw them leave and go out the front door.

Kansas City Chiefs fans deaths: Homeowner wants answers

According to attorney John Picerno, Jordan Willis was lifelong friends with two of the men found outside his home and wants answers.

www.newsnationnow.com

Watched the game at a couple of different places??

 

[arielilane]

PICTURED: Kansas City Chiefs fan whose three friends died in backyard

Jordan Willis' is an award-winning HIV scientist who has moved home and deleted all of his social media after three of his friends were mysteriously found dead on his property.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Willis with the two 'light of his life' - Sadie and Daisy. He says he didn't leave his home between January 7 and 9, not even to walk the dogs.
One would assume he let his dogs out to relieve themselves ?
How did he miss the man in the back porch ?
JW may be entirely blameless but since there are three dead people on his property; of course there are going to be questions.
One would hope he is being as candid and straightforward as possible with LE, for instance.
The entire sad picture is becoming more clear in regards to the unnamed 'buddy'.....
So sorry for the men's families !
Omo.

According to his attorney the dogs (@3:00) stay at his dad's house.

 

[arielilane]

Family wants answers after their son was found dead in Northland​

Family wants answers after their son was found dead in Northland

Family furious over no answers after 3 men dead in KC​

Days after three bodies were found behind a home in Kansas City's Northland, family of one victim say they're furious with the lack of answers.

 

[Blondem123]

Could be some sort of poisoning. Very strange that the homeowner was inside unharmed, and that it took one man's girlfriend so long to find them.

 

[PrairieWind]

Family wants answers after their son was found dead in Northland​

Family wants answers after their son was found dead in Northland

Family furious over no answers after 3 men dead in KC​

Days after three bodies were found behind a home in Kansas City's Northland, family of one victim say they're furious with the lack of answers.

It must be tough for those families not knowing what happened. I can understand their frustration with the resident/friend.

Rarely do my friends freeze to death in my backyard. And I think I would notice and probably let someone know. I think it is just a good house rule: "hey everyone, if someone freezes to death in the backyard, let someone know."

 

[Chimera]

According to his attorney the dogs (@3:00) stay at his dad's house.

Thanks for clarifying this.
It's just that why would he mention not leaving the house even to walk his dogs ?
It sounds like the dogs were at JW's house, during that time .
Imo.
Omo.

Eta : If he left to go to his dad's, wouldn't he be curious about why the friend's vehicles were still there ?

 

[Chimera]

<modsnip: quoted post was removed> I'd be interested in talking to person # 5 !
At least questions like, "When you left, were the three deceased still alive and inside the house ", OR -- "When you left, had the three gone out into the backyard for some fresh air & you assumed they'd walk back inside or to their cars" ; etc.
That sort of questions.
At least it'd help to clear this up, for their loved ones !

Investigators and LE are by nature of their occupation more 'nosey' than most.
IF person # 5 is incognito-- that would make me a bit suspicious.
Just a bit.
Omo.

 

[branmuffin]

Depends on social host responsibility/liability laws which can vary amongst towns, cities, municipalities and states. In some places its bars/restaurants only, in others it often extend into homes.

I find those laws, especially when dealing with people with substance abuse issues, to be passing the buck. There are so many situations where family members coordinate interventions for loved ones who are drugs addicts or extreme alcoholics to no avail. Does that make their parents or family members liable if they injure or kill a stranger while impaired?

Being a bartender or a wait staff who continually overserves a patron who is obviously impaired is a totally different animal than having a group of buddies over to get wasted while watching a game. Now if those individuals are so impaired but want to drive home, it would be incumbent upon a sober host to either take their keys, ask a family member to pick them up or call an Uber or a taxi. If they insist on driving then I would say that's where responsibility would lay with a host for not informing LE. But what if they say they'll sleep it off but instead leave after host goes to bed?

Now conversely, if you had an individual who invited his buddies over for pre-game, through-game, post-game revelries and they all equally were impaired then the playing field is fairly level. Maybe expectations at the beginning of the night were probably that they were going home when they were ready. If the homeowner went to bed before his guests left and was unaware that the expectation morphed into something else, I don't see how he would be responsible.

I've known cases where individuals have had their keys taken away by a host and told to sleep it off there or they'd call them a cab. They opted to take the cab. They went home, got the spare car key, took the taxi back to the friends home and drove the car without the knowledge of the homeowner and got into a personal injury accident. You'd think that someone who was cagy enough to pull a stunt like that is at least operating on a level to make decisions that were directly related to logic yet they were still impaired enough to cause an accident. At some point in time, people who use substances that cause impairment have to bear some responsibility for their actions.

Now, with the inclusion of the mysterious 5th individual the situation changes again. I'd be interested in how long it took person #5 to inform LE of his attendance at the house that night and whether he had a lawyer already in tow or whether the house resident advised them early on about the mystery person. And if he did why did LE keep quiet about the 5th individual for so long?

I do believe that the tox results will decide COD.

 

[Charlot123]

Bbm.
I'd be interested in talking to person # 5 !
At least questions like, "When you left, were the three deceased still alive and inside the house ", OR -- "When you left, had the three gone out into the backyard for some fresh air & you assumed they'd walk back inside or to their cars" ; etc.
That sort of questions.
At least it'd help to clear this up, for their loved ones !

Investigators and LE are by nature of their occupation more 'nosey' than most.
IF person # 5 is incognito-- that would make me a bit suspicious.
Just a bit.
Omo.

Yes and no. It is Kansas, after all, not WA, so privacy might be a bigger issue. If he, indeed, exists. JMO - I wonder if person nr 5 did not leave at all.
But, overall, this story, in a way, leaves me with the same impression as the story of Karen Read, only in Karen Read story, everyone was drunk into blackouts, and here, the substance was different, but you can’t even trust people’s memories. If people get together to drink, or to party, what’s the use of asking them?

 

[10ofRods]

This case is taking place in Missouri. Kansas City, MO.

Home of the Chiefs, whose game is part of this story.

 

[Keane]

Yup, KCMO, not KCK.

 

[Curiousobserver]

To me this case is one of two stories- most likely, they died outside of drug intoxication/hypothermia less likely but possible, they were incapacitated or died from drug intoxication inside the house and were dragged outside.

I don't think there is anything criminal here unless you count poor judgement.

This actually happens very frequently (accidental drug overdose at a party), albeit it is usually 1 victim at a time, obvious cause, and therefore does not make the news.

 

[louvillian08]

Watched the game at a couple of different places??

Yeah... seems like another odd distinction to make. Rather than just saying they hung-out/meet up after the game

 

[Chimera]

Yes and no. It is Kansas, after all, not WA, so privacy might be a bigger issue. If he, indeed, exists. JMO - I wonder if person nr 5 did not leave at all.
But, overall, this story, in a way, leaves me with the same impression as the story of Karen Read, only in Karen Read story, everyone was drunk into blackouts, and here, the substance was different, but you can’t even trust people’s memories. If people get together to drink, or to party, what’s the use of asking them?

On the faint possibility that # 5 exists (You do have a good point there as to this person's actually being there at the residence !); they may be able to shed some light about this.

The grieving families need answers and I suspect they're not happy with what's being supplied to them by the authorities, at this time.
That could change, however.

If they're ok with everything they've been told, either now or down the road, then I wish them comfort and healing from this horrible tragedy.
Omo.

 

[DFWNF]

All three being so confused they all tried to leave out back, though? I personally can't see that. They would have all come in through the front door. They shouldn't have all confused the doors. JMO.

I think there has to be another reason they went out back, besides leaving to head home.

So let's ask ourselves, if the host was upstairs for the night, why would they go out back together, rather than out front? Even for a smoke, why go out back, if the party was over?

Oh well, I guess if we knew the host's story it might make more sense.

Where I live everyone, aside from solicitors, come to the back doors.

 

[BrutusBuckeye]

The introduction of drugs to the party when they returned to the home, sounds like the most likely scenario. Possibly they went outside to smoke/ingest whatever contained (likely) fentanyl or went outside after ingesting the drugs.

I do not see any scenario where they were unable to leave the backyard, just that they all died suddenly from whatever they ingested.

Seems unlikely JW doesn't know more than he's telling the press. There are 6 large windows, a double sliding glass doors and a half-glass man door all looking out into the back yard - you wouldn't even peak out there in 2 days? Not even to see how much snow you got or if a mess was left by your guests?