MO MO - Kara Kopetsky, 17, Belton, 4 May 2007 - #2

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docwho3 said:
Now that we know the body found was not kara I reiterate:
Details in this case have been scarce. It would seems that other more high profile cases have dominated. Yet this case sort of reminds me of the one where a young woman had a crush on a security guard at her school and she moved in with him, living only a short distance from her home. She stayed indoors for a long time,years, and only surfaced much later. I was never sure whether she surfaced because the love glow had finally worn off or just what.

I wonder if something similar has happened in this case. Maybe she found someone to move in with and is living out of sight somewhere.

Any thoughts?
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I think in the world we live in today, anything is possible. But like I said before I really dont see or have the feeling that Kara has run away!
 
docwho3 said:
Now that we know the body found was not kara I reiterate:
Details in this case have been scarce. It would seems that other more high profile cases have dominated. Yet this case sort of reminds me of the one where a young woman had a crush on a security guard at her school and she moved in with him, living only a short distance from her home. She stayed indoors for a long time,years, and only surfaced much later. I was never sure whether she surfaced because the love glow had finally worn off or just what.

I wonder if something similar has happened in this case. Maybe she found someone to move in with and is living out of sight somewhere.

Any thoughts?
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After seeing pics and videos of her ex-boyfriend...someone like an older security guard type wouldn't fit the bill with her and the guys she is attracted to wouldn't be stable enough, IMO, to have a place to keep her. She rather likes them a bit on the rebellious, wild side I think.

I don't see her not contacting her friends at the age of 17 if she is simply living with someone either. Girls that age need their peers. If she were off "playing house", she would have gotten into contact with someone.
 
Back to square one folks! Maybe she is being held somewhere. ONLY GUESSING. I have never went back and forth on something like this. I mean sometimes I think EH, then it is Stepdad, then BF, Then someone we dont know.
 
I want to find out more about the relationship with her stepfather myself. I know how volatile those relationships can be. Has her mother told everything to LE about the true situation or is she covering up some issues which LE would be concerned about to protect her husband? I wonder if LE has interviewed Thomas alone about Kara?

Starting at square one, Indy...means starting with the immediate family.
 
SeriouslySearching said:
I want to find out more about the relationship with her stepfather myself. I know how volatile those relationships can be. Has her mother told everything to LE about the true situation or is she covering up some issues which LE would be concerned about to protect her husband? I wonder if LE has interviewed Thomas alone about Kara?

Starting at square one, Indy...means starting with the immediate family.
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Always thinking alike, you and I!
 
SeriouslySearching said:
. . . She rather likes them a bit on the rebellious, wild side I think. . .
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You base that on what exactly?

SeriouslySearching said:
. . .I don't see her not contacting her friends at the age of 17 if she is simply living with someone either. Girls that age need their peers. If she were off "playing house", she would have gotten into contact with someone.
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A. We don't know that she hasn't contacted a friend or two, only that we have not heard of it and they likely have not reported any contact to L.E. if she did get in touch with a friend. B. Where "love" is involved young women may surprise you in what they are willing to go through to be with their man.

As to "older man": I don't think it has to be a greatly older man but I do think it is possible that she thinks she has found someone that she wants to go and live with. If that person has his own place then he may well be at least somewhat older than she is. I loosely base that on the fact that it is not likely that many people her own age have their own place yet. (Although I am reminded that in the security officer case he was living with his parents in the same house so I suppose you can't easily rule any age out at this point just because they might still live with parents.)

There was evidently some reason that made L.E. suspect she is a runaway to a certain place which was named so I am wishing we knew the basis of that, the complete info about it.

Edited to add: Also if she did go to be with someone how did she find this special someone? She either met him in person which sort of narrows the field down to places she has actually been to in the physical world and most likely a place she has been to regularly such as school or there is always a possibility she met him by text chat on cell phone or some sort of internet communication either from school, a friends computer or her own comp if she has one.
 
Also she worked at Popeye's chicken which would put her in touch with the public in general.
 
docwho3 said:
Now that we know the body found was not kara I reiterate:
Details in this case have been scarce. It would seems that other more high profile cases have dominated. Yet this case sort of reminds me of the one where a young woman had a crush on a security guard at her school and she moved in with him, living only a short distance from her home. She stayed indoors for a long time,years, and only surfaced much later. I was never sure whether she surfaced because the love glow had finally worn off or just what.

I wonder if something similar has happened in this case. Maybe she found someone to move in with and is living out of sight somewhere.

Any thoughts?
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You are speaking of Tanya Kach, correct? http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/sexual_assault/tanya_nichole_kach/index.html
 
Docwho, you seem to be onto something. That would make the sighting with the guy, and the sketch fit in. I have seen some girls (myself and my best friend included) who generally fall for one "type" of guy turn around and date the complete opposite "type". Maybe thats what happened with her and she is staying with him.
On the other hand, I'm not discounting family involvement in her disappearance, I think we need to look into all of the possisbilities.
 
MissieMt said:
Docwho, you seem to be onto something. That would make the sighting with the guy, and the sketch fit in. I have seen some girls (myself and my best friend included) who generally fall for one "type" of guy turn around and date the complete opposite "type". Maybe thats what happened with her and she is staying with him.
On the other hand, I'm not discounting family involvement in her disappearance, I think we need to look into all of the possisbilities.
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Your thoughts seem reasonable to me. I hope the young woman is ok.
 
docwho3 said:
You base that on what exactly?

A. We don't know that she hasn't contacted a friend or two, only that we have not heard of it and they likely have not reported any contact to L.E. if she did get in touch with a friend. B. Where "love" is involved young women may surprise you in what they are willing to go through to be with their man.

As to "older man": I don't think it has to be a greatly older man but I do think it is possible that she thinks she has found someone that she wants to go and live with. If that person has his own place then he may well be at least somewhat older than she is. I loosely base that on the fact that it is not likely that many people her own age have their own place yet. (Although I am reminded that in the security officer case he was living with his parents in the same house so I suppose you can't easily rule any age out at this point just because they might still live with parents.)

There was evidently some reason that made L.E. suspect she is a runaway to a certain place which was named so I am wishing we knew the basis of that, the complete info about it.

Edited to add: Also if she did go to be with someone how did she find this special someone? She either met him in person which sort of narrows the field down to places she has actually been to in the physical world and most likely a place she has been to regularly such as school or there is always a possibility she met him by text chat on cell phone or some sort of internet communication either from school, a friends computer or her own comp if she has one.
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Her current family lilfe lead me to believe two things:
1) she left to escape them
2) something happened that caused her death in the household, which sounds frightening and scary to me.
 
1) Ran away
2) Family related disappearance
3) Abducted

1) While this is an option, people would have spotted her and reports would come in periodically to LE. There has only been one and they cannot confirm it was her.

2) Another possibility because we do not know what happened in the family unit in the days or hours preceding her disappearance. We do know something was going on possibly with the stepfather due to the note and his comments. (Are we certain she did not make it home where he would be the last person to see her since he was the one who determined she was missing?)

3) We can't rule out the possibility she met someone online, locally, or even a possible stranger abduction from the time she walked out of the school. (How far did she make it away from the school before she was taken?)
 
My sister just sent me an email and she said at our local walmart there is a poster for Kara. Thought I would share with you guys.
 
SeriouslySearching said:
1) Ran away
2) Family related disappearance
3) Abducted

1) While this is an option, people would have spotted her and reports would come in periodically to LE. There has only been one and they cannot confirm it was her. . .
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You might want to reread the case at http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/sexual_assault/tanya_nichole_kach/index.html

I don't believe there were sightings of that missing person either, at least not until right before she was "found".

SeriouslySearching said:
. . . 3) We can't rule out the possibility she met someone online, locally, or even a possible stranger abduction from the time she walked out of the school. (How far did she make it away from the school before she was taken?)
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This possibility sort of goes along with runaway. She may have left to be with someone she met online or in person at work or elsewhere. The question becomes: If she wants to come home will the person she met allow her to do so?
 
On the contrary, it is just that the person who did see her became party to the abduction and hiding her. There was a sighting!

Then that would fall into an abduction status, wouldn't it?
 
SeriouslySearching said:
On the contrary, it is just that the person who did see her became party to the abduction and hiding her. There was a sighting!

Then that would fall into an abduction status, wouldn't it?
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She (Tanya) originally left to be with a security guard but then he allegedly would not let her leave at some later point in the relationship. It was a runaway that became an alleged abduction. I use the term "alleged" because she was eventually allowed out of the house to shop at a local store or two and she eventually asked a shop keeper for help but I was never completely convinced that was ever in fact an abductee. I think it is entirely possible that she was a runaway who later got angry at her "man" after the love wore off and eventually got tired of hiding out and realized the only way back to her name and life was to become "found."

As to the current cases about kara: If she left to be with someone she was a runaway but if he, at some point, refuses to allow her to return home it could certainly become an abduction situation and that could be very dangerous for the young woman.

You were/are correct that until we have more evidence we cannot afford to overlook any of the possibilities that you listed.
 
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