Found Deceased MO - Nicholas Diemel, 35, & Justin, 24, brothers missing, Clinton County, 21 July 2019 *ARREST*

[Teche]

Burn pile sounds terrible.

 

[ms_x_to_the_m]

Ugh, thing are not looking up for these two brothers. It's all very tragic and sad.

 

[Jewels53]

BRAYMER, Mo. -- Day 3 of the search for two missing Wisconsin brothers has ended, and still investigators say they're no closer to finding them.

All day Wednesday, investigators from several agencies swarmed a Caldwell County property in their search to find 35-year-old Nick Diemel and his 24-year-old brother Justin Diemel.

After third day of searching, still no answers about missing Wisconsin brothers

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

The property owner’s son was recently released (about a year ago I believe) from prison for cattle fraud.

Cattle fraud could be a 'situation with the cattle'. IMO

 

[MntnHiker]

Yes, I'm starting to wonder if they never left the farm. Maybe someone else just quickly dumped their vehicle in that commuter lot. I would think authorities could tell by their phone pings or data if they really did drive to the lot? If everything was good and normal, they probably would have had their phones still on while driving to the commuter lot.

 

[ms_x_to_the_m]

Now I wonder if the burning/smolder pile was the same as the case of Tim Bosma in Ontario. The victim was burned to almost nothing left for the truck. I do believe that some farms have those kind of burning equipment to burn cattle that is diseased?

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Now I wonder if the burning/smolder pile was the same as the case of Tim Bosma in Ontario. The victim was burned to almost nothing left for the truck. I do believe that some farms have those kind of burning equipment to burn cattle that is diseased?

I was unfamiliar with that case, having read read about it now I agree, could be the same thing.

 

[SuziQ]

From a story on KSHB:

"Police have to say what role the Braymer farm plays in the expanding investigation, but investigators could be seen setting up a sifting station Wednesday next to a smoldering debris pile on the property."

Oh no....

 

[calo44]

Cattle fraud could be a 'situation with the cattle'. IMO

I think many of the cattle they were checking on were either dead or gone (sold). Diemel hire many farms to raise cattle for them for sale/slaughter.

 

[calo44]

They could be sifting that burn pile to decipher animal remains from human remains. I hope that guy and his girlfriend get arrested today; praying LE can find enough evidence to haul them in.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

I think many of the cattle they were checking on were either dead or gone (sold). Diemel hire many farms to raise cattle for them for sale/slaughter.

I was thinking along the lines of some sort of fraud, cattle declared dead but actually sold, something like that. JMO

 

[SuziQ]

Now I wonder if the burning/smolder pile was the same as the case of Tim Bosma in Ontario. The victim was burned to almost nothing left for the truck. I do believe that some farms have those kind of burning equipment to burn cattle that is diseased?

I hadn't thought of this. You are correct about the cremation equipment. If this is the case, LE may not find much.

This is just awful. I feel so bad for the family. I think I read one brother has several kids. An infant to teens.

 

[calo44]

It’ll be interesting to see where their phones pinged last — did they make it to Holt, or last pinged at the farm in Braymer?

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

It’ll be interesting to see where their phones pinged last — did they make it to Holt, or last pinged at the farm in Braymer?

Are LE searching anywhere else? I can't see most of the articles.

 

[calo44]

Are LE searching anywhere else? I can't see most of the articles.

I’ve only seen where they’re at the car park in Holt where the truck was discovered, and at the farm in Braymer where the men were last known to be. Focus is at the farm, with a command center set up next to the burn put there. Many agencies participating, including FBI.

 

[keptbycats]

I'm sort of wondering if they are searching that farm in Braymer because they know it to be the last place the brothers were at, or just because they know it to be the place of a former cattle felon with a burn pit? Although I would think a burn pit is common at a place like that.

Feeling bad for the families of these brothers as I don't think there is a happy ending here, regardless.

 

[inmyhumbleopinion]

The property owner’s son was recently released (about a year ago I believe) from prison for cattle fraud.

Only a little over a year ago ...:
Name: GARLAND, JOSEPH NELSON
Register Number: 29000-045
Age: 25
Race: White
Sex: Male
Released On: 03/29/2018
BOP: Federal Inmates By Number

 

[Tippy Lynn]

LE had probable cause if they had a search warrant to search the "felon" property. Sadly, this isn't looking good for the missing brothers.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

LE had probable cause if they had a search warrant to search the "felon" property. Sadly, this isn't looking good for the missing brothers.

 

[LaborDayRN]

It's possible that they never left the farm. Somebody might have been caught lying about it. How did their truck get to Holt?

I'm going to guess someone besides the brothers drove the truck to Holt in order to remove it from their property (the crime scene).