Found Deceased MO - Toni Anderson, 20, North Kansas City, 15 Jan 2017 #1

[Shin Masamura]

I think the police are playing their card correctly. The aren't releasing obvious helpful info of video of what she was wearing last, pings etc because they are watching. Question, If I started a Gofundmepage for my sick daughter, raised 10k for treatment, after I reach the goal she gets better and doesn't need the surgery, what happens to the money?

 

[Knox]

I think the police are playing their card correctly. The aren't releasing obvious helpful info of video of what she was wearing last, pings etc because they are watching. Question, If I started a Gofundmepage for my sick daughter, raised 10k for treatment, after I reach the goal she gets better and doesn't need the surgery, what happens to the money?

Whoever administrates the fund would keep the money. Are you thinking what I'm thinking? Kind of hinky isn't it.

 

[lmadler]

Car jacked?

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[policyoftruth501]

I always try to think of the most mundane explanation for any disappearance, given that the most mundane explanation is the most likely to be true.

If the GPS locations are known and show her last location to be the gas station, then I can't think of a mundane explanation for this girl's disappearance.

If there is a possibility that they don't yet know the final GPS locations, then I think she either went home and got into an argument with the boyfriend (possibly because her account was short of funds because he had taken money from it), or she went to meet her friends and overdosed, or she had an accident and went into a body of water.

I've wondered the same about some type of unintentional incident. I took a lot of risks and did a lot of really stupid stuff when I was partying in my 20's and so did a lot of my girlfriends at the time. There are many, many times where I could have been seriously injured or killed. I look back and think how lucky I was (as were my friends) that none of us ended up raped, assaulted, or even dead somewhere. Even in situations where there is a large group of friends there can be risky situations: someone that's a stranger joining the group, getting separated from the group, or a straight up accident. I can easily see where something can go wrong based on my own personal experiences.


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[MaxManning]

If the GPS locations are known and show her last location to be the gas station, then I can't think of a mundane explanation for this girl's disappearance.

If the last GPS location was the gas station, that would mean that the car would still be there or that it was disabled at that point.

Someone has to know the GPS exists before they could disable it. They'd also need to know how to disable it. That doesn't seem to point to an opportunistic situation, but rather a planned and well informed situation.

So, who knows about the GPS, would be worth knowing. I'd assume that Toni knows about it. I don't think it'd be a stretch to believe the BF knows about it. I could see co-workers/friends being told that. Maybe one of the regular patrons at the bar, whom she has friendly/chatty conversations with?

Has it been verified that the last known GPS location was the gas station?

It's possible that she was kidnapped at the gas station and taken via another vehicle. Then the attacker returned and disabled the GPS via Toni's knowledge of the GPS and how it works, then drove the car away and hid or disposed of it (body of water)

But, if the gas station was truly the last location of the car, it seems more likely that the GPS was turned off by someone who knew it was there and knew how to turn it off.

Does anyone have one of these insurance based GPS systems and know how you'd go about turning it off? Is the driver able to flip a switch or does it involve going under the hood or something more involved?

 

[LietKynes]

That guy is just race baiting and using a tragedy to promote an agenda. Shameful


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RSBM

What I found interesting was the way he spoke of certain people... yet seems to be fairly well acquainted with the same.
Ambulance chaser of the worst sort, imo.

 

[Hraefn]

I always try to think of the most mundane explanation for any disappearance, given that the most mundane explanation is the most likely to be true.

If the GPS locations are known and show her last location to be the gas station, then I can't think of a mundane explanation for this girl's disappearance.

If there is a possibility that they don't yet know the final GPS locations, then I think she either went home and got into an argument with the boyfriend (possibly because her account was short of funds because he had taken money from it), or she went to meet her friends and overdosed, or she had an accident and went into a body of water.

I'm thinking the last known location is the gas station because that's what they have surveillance of and nothing past that has been reported or proven true.

Also these insurance company GPS trackers are becoming quite common, I'm sure anyone who plans or has a history of any car theft, or other crimes involving not wanting a vehicle to be tracked, would think to check for one.

 

[policyoftruth501]

If the last GPS location was the gas station, that would mean that the car would still be there or that it was disabled at that point.

Someone has to know the GPS exists before they could disable it. They'd also need to know how to disable it. That doesn't seem to point to an opportunistic situation, but rather a planned and well informed situation.

So, who knows about the GPS, would be worth knowing. I'd assume that Toni knows about it. I don't think it'd be a stretch to believe the BF knows about it. I could see co-workers/friends being told that. Maybe one of the regular patrons at the bar, whom she has friendly/chatty conversations with?

Has it been verified that the last known GPS location was the gas station?

It's possible that she was kidnapped at the gas station and taken via another vehicle. Then the attacker returned and disabled the GPS via Toni's knowledge of the GPS and how it works, then drove the car away and hid or disposed of it (body of water)

But, if the gas station was truly the last location of the car, it seems more likely that the GPS was turned off by someone who knew it was there and knew how to turn it off.

Does anyone have one of these insurance based GPS systems and know how you'd go about turning it off? Is the driver able to flip a switch or does it involve going under the hood or something more involved?

My brother used one that can attach anywhere on the car, inside or out. It sent GPS information to his computer. I don't know anything more about how it worked.


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[azure]

I'm a local.

A couple thoughts. Bars close in KC, MO at 3. So there is nothing open to do besides QT, 7-11, Walmart, diners, etc. I can only assume her final destination was a residence at 4am or later.

Also if insurance companies frequently place GPS devices in a specific place, anyone familiar with stealing cars would know where to look for it, right? I wouldn't assume that Toni would even know where it was unless she installed it herself or watched.

 

[Aeronomy]

I think the police are playing their card correctly. The aren't releasing obvious helpful info of video of what she was wearing last, pings etc because they are watching. Question, If I started a Gofundmepage for my sick daughter, raised 10k for treatment, after I reach the goal she gets better and doesn't need the surgery, what happens to the money?

Well... you'd probably keep it for all the follow-ups. has some kind of stipulation where the funds raised have to be used for the specified purposes. If it's not, donors can request and are entitled to get their money back. Of course people will still try to game the system, sometimes succeeding in it, with fake illnesses and pretend abductions.

 

[MaxManning]

Car jacked?

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The problem I have with a carjacking is that in that case, the GPS would go beyond the gas station. In a carjacking situation, I'd think that the primary goal would be to flee the location and then handle GPS as a secondary goal. If the GPS gets turned off at the gas station, that means the carjacker would have to ask her if she has GPS first and then disable it before going. Maybe that's really simple.

But personally, I think if indeed the GPS was disabled at the gas station, it's starting to sound like it's someone with knowledge of that GPS system existing. Is Toni running away out of the question?

I think if you are going to run away, draining your bank account is indeed one step you might take. I see in the reports that she was starting school this week, but obviously if the goal was to make it look like you were kidnapped... you might actually do things just as if you weren't leaving.

Smells more like foul play, but just wanted to note that people who want to disappear do indeed drain their bank accounts and ditch their phones and they'd also likely disable the GPS if they know about it so that they can ditch the car somewhere or whatever... as well as make it appear as if it was a crime.

I don't think that's most likely, but it shouldn't be discarded as impossible at this point, given how little we know.

 

[osu]

I don't know if this would be the same type of tracker that she had, but the tracker used by Progressive Insurance is called "Snapshot".

It's just a small device that the car owner plugs into the on-board diagnostic port inside the car. The Snapshot monitors the braking, transmission and driving speeds of the vehicle in exchange for a lower insurance rate.

Photos: https://blog.joemanna.com/progressive-snapshot-review/

 

[jenna75]

They just did an interview on Fox 4 News with the boyfriend. Has scratches all over his cheek. The reporter was outside the night club and said that the manager and security guard walked her out and made sure no one was following her. She had worked at Chrome for 3 years (but I thought in one article, they moved to the KC area 2 years ago). Anyway, the link will be on myfoxkc.com later tonight, I'm sure. Still reporting her as a server at the club.

But as someone above said, bars here close at 3am so there is VERY little open at 4:30am, so she would be heading to someone's home.

 

[policyoftruth501]

I would think that a Snapshot device would be very easy for someone to disable and remove, especially if they know about it and since there's been so much advertising for the device. The type my brother used has a magnetic back and can attach anywhere on the car, therefore it can easily be hidden and much harder to find since it's only about 2"X1" and literally can be anywhere on the car. If you didn't know where it was hidden it would almost be impossible to locate this type of device without a potentially very time consuming search.


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[mzufall]

Our insurance company does this. It is to help lower your rates if your a safe driver. It plugged right into the dash on the drivers side right under the instrument panel. Very easy to see. To deactivate it all you do is pull it out.

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[Aeronomy]

They just did an interview on Fox 4 News with the boyfriend. Has scratches all over his cheek. The reporter was outside the night club and said that the manager and security guard walked her out and made sure no one was following her. She had worked at Chrome for 3 years (but I thought in one article, they moved to the KC area 2 years ago). Anyway, the link will be on myfoxkc.com later tonight, I'm sure. Still reporting her as a server at the club.

But as someone above said, bars here close at 3am so there is VERY little open at 4:30am, so she would be heading to someone's home.

Will this be the first televised interview with him or is there another to which it can be compared? TIA.

 

[MaxManning]

In regards to the carjacking possibility. Carjacking is typically a more opportunistic crime and the goal is obtaining the car. Most often they remove the driver from the car.

Kidnapping I'd imagine is typically more planned and has a specific target. I could be wrong about this, but Ive followed a number of kidnapping cases and it seems more common that the kidnapper targeted the person and it wasn't just hanging out at a gas station waiting for just anyone. So it seems more likely that someone from her place of work followed her or knew where she was going. Or... She was meeting someone she knew at the gas station.

I'm doubting this was a complete stranger, but rather someone she knew in some way. patron from work? boyfriend? co-worker? drug-dealer? escort client?

For the record, I'm not trying to slander Toni or put her in a bad light by mentioning things like drugs/escorting. But I do believe they are rather realistic possibilities. These kinds of things go on at that hour of the night and in relation to clubs that stay open that late/early.

I can see reasons why people who knew where she was going, might not divulge the full story to law enforcement because of the illegal element. They might not even know the specifics, but if they said -- it was a drug dealer or... it was an escort call... that certainly gives the police a rather large lead as compared to just saying she was going to the quickstop. At this point her safety/life is larger matter than any illegalities imo.

I hope we get some video from the gas station etc. Also her call/text data might reveal people she was communicating with prior to her disappearance.

 

[MaxManning]

They just did an interview on Fox 4 News with the boyfriend. Has scratches all over his cheek.

:/

Certainly the police/family are not naive. right?

Anyone have a link or snapshot?

 

[Aeronomy]

Why does boyfriend taking over her page not only scream "I know what happened," but also "and I know taking over and requesting donations here will bring in way more money than requesting it elsewhere." ???

I really want to know how long he's had access to her page and how he got it.

 

[Aeronomy]

:/

Certainly the police/family are not naive. right?

Anyone have a link or snapshot?

Look in the comments section of the FB post made at 7:02 yesterday on her page. The comment/snapshot of his face was posted about 20 minutes ago.

Video here...https://video-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v...=e8cb7467ad58f9d7c026e8e3da6e72d7&oe=58807EBD