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KWCH just did a segment on Toni. Nothing new but at least she is still in the news.
Just got caught up, lots of thoughts.
In almost every club, dancers are independent contractors who pay "rent", called a house fee, to work. The earlier you come in, the less you pay, typically. Off-peak nights are also cheaper. Think how hairstylists rent their booths.
I danced in very upscale clubs in IL and NY. Missouri is a full nude, no liquor state. From my experience, girls who I met from MO who traveled to my clubs to work and actually passed audition were pretty rough around the edges. I get the impression money was harder to make without booze and the girls had to be pretty cutthroat.
With that said, in my experience working in (very upscale) clubs, very few girls we're drug addicts. There were a few, but there were far more girls with professional husbands who drovs luxury cars and lived in very nice homes. I understand Toni has a criminal record, so certain inferences can be made about her lifestyle. However, I would not make inferences solely because she is a stripper who dabbled in cam work.
We had very little ice last weekend. There was high humidity which caused the roads to freeze a bit, but nothing serious. By 4:30 am I think the worst was over.
I cannot imagine a way someone could go over the side of the bridge over the MO river nearer the 'downtown' QT. The rails are super high and there's a pedestrian walkway with a concrete barrier.
How/why would cops track you from an insurance device though?
Thanks for this info. Since you have been in this occupation and around people that are similar to Toni, have you ever heard stories about the whole concept of being a confidential informant?
Being in a more upscale establishment, that might not have been something you witnessed, but I'd imagine that you might hear from people in the same occupation from other states about such things. From what I have read so far on here from those who have worked in clubs such as the one Toni worked at, there can often be drugs and other illegal activity. So I could see the logic in having someone with their ear to the ground in one of these clubs.
I agree with your assessment about the roads based on what I am seeing in google maps streetview off the expressways. I'm quite a bit more skeptical of an accident than I was even just a few hours earlier. So good to hear from someone actually living there, that you agree with what I am noticing.
I have never met anyone who was an informant that I know of. However I've read some very concerning articles in the media about informant deaths. The number of jurisdictions involved in her commute from work to where she was last seen complicate this theory a bit, IMO. Unless she was being followed.
I'm sure the officer would have asked her where she was headed. Wonder what her answer was?
Not clear on why it would complicate the theory. (but interested in why you'd say that)
I'm not even suggesting the officer who pulled her over knew she was a CI. However, someone who is a CI and is discovered to be one, could be killed for that reason.
There are clear records in the media of KCK and KCMO working together on drug cases involving CI's. So I know that's a thing.
Do you know anything about the Argosy Casino/Hotel? I have found articles about major drug ring deals that occurred at that hotel, involving CI(s).
I don't expect that you know about those specifically, but since you are from the area, and if you have been there... do you get the sense of illegal activity being a part of that scene?
To me, it seems if more people had more details, there'd be more leads...or maybe more evidence of where the story unravels. I'll be curious if they someday release the dashcam footage and if so, what explanation they give for holding it in the meantime.
Maybe they're trying to stall while they watch someone or some place. Maybe the tape breaks protocol. Without new information, and minus any new discoveries, though, it's difficult to come up with unexamined angles in the story we've already cycled through many times. Perhaps a family member or friend will provide some details to the public eventually, though today the family indicated they'd been asked not to for the time being.
Thanks to all who did this little thing. I like the ideas stated, or inherent, in each reply.
Here it is one more time.
Well, she went from Chrome, which is in an industrial no man's land in east KC (and which I'd never heard of until this case), to North Kansas City, another mostly commercial area, to KCK, in yet another sparse, industrial area. If she were being followed, they would have had a lot of traveling to do.
I suppose if she were meeting someone to arrange a deal and they thought something was up, they might keep changing the location. Maybe they saw her get pulled over and went to a different QT nearby but not too close? I guess as I think about it, I'm getting more comfortable with this theory.
I know nothing about the Argosy casino or any local scuttlebutt about drug rings. Having lived in bigger cities, I do think locals have a tendency to exaggerate. KC really is a big small town, IMO.
I know and believe there are CIs out there and many are strong-armed into it, but my one concern is that Toni posted on social media that she managed to avoid prison on a drug charge. I've personally known dealers in my younger days and they will flip out if you even say the wrong words around them or over the phone with them, so I would be surprised if she could post on SM that she avoided prison on drug charges and still had drug dealers that trusted her - unless the dealers were naive enough to work with her without checking her out first or she had a public paper trail proving she got probation or some type of punishment to give her a cover. Just an observation.
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I've been following the case from the beginning but I'm not one to chime in much.Has anyone pulled up the weather history for this time and day?
I concur!I'm thinking she met with an unsavory person. They ditched her phone. Threw it in the trash for all we know and it sat there and battery died 9:30pm.
i cant remember where i saw it, but her bf is painting stripes on the side of a classic car in what appears to be a body shop.Some comments on the news site's post led me to think along these lines too. I've been zooming in on the Google map and looking at area businesses surrounding the QuikTrip for a little while now. There are several auto places nearby. One is a block away from a QuikTrip. Could someone who studied the video footage of her leaving the lot tell me if she could've been headed toward this or another one in the area?
A little further away, same general area, another car shop is publicly registered at datagovus website to a new guy who has same last name as bf. Not saying it's related, but any chance Toni knew someone and went there for help/protection/assistance of some kind?
By the way, I checked to see if she had liked either of these auto places on her FB page and she had NOT (she only likes band pages mostly). I also did not see any posts from her or pics from her on their business pages, so haven't been able to establish any direct possibility she knew them...other than the possibility of the owner being related to her bf. But an auto place might be a reasonable place to go given all the circumstances we've covered here and the fact that her car quit tracking VERY near there and yet isn't out in the open.
I know and believe there are CIs out there and many are strong-armed into it, but my one concern is that Toni posted on social media that she managed to avoid prison on a drug charge. I've personally known dealers in my younger days and they will flip out if you even say the wrong words around them or over the phone with them, so I would be surprised if she could post on SM that she avoided prison on drug charges and still had drug dealers that trusted her - unless the dealers were naive enough to work with her without checking her out first or she had a public paper trail proving she got probation or some type of punishment to give her a cover. Just an observation.
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Why would she disable it herself? She was going to meet friends, that was known.