Motive

[Just Jayla]

Cindy is one lone voice. There's others that have spoken about the conflict between Casey and Cindy. Cindy's own mother stated that she thought that Casey hated her mother more than she loved Caylee. That's a very strong statement. JG witnessed the conflict first hand, when Cindy verbally belittled Casey in front of him. The neighbors have spoken about hearing fighting between Cindy and Casey, with Casey using foul language. I'm sure there's others who can speak to the ongoing conflict between Casey and Cindy.

And we can hear for ourselves, on the 911/LE call-when CA is being transferred by Orlando to Orange Co. and is on hold, you can hear CA threaten KC that she was going to get DCS involved-Here's link:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...lee-anthony-orlando-911-mp3,0,3722061.mp3file

 

[Noddy]

Wow that is very old and it went away but i am still curious about that.
Early on there was something on her page that referred to a brothel...
A Discussion Site named In Session talked about that a lot,
it was hardly a conversation here......
It may still be on the other site. But you would have to go way back to last summer.
Supposedly Casey was an escort and brought Caylee to work with her.
I do not know and I would not be surprised.

Does that have to do with the money trail? Peter B, Parrish M. NLH, KFN, etc. This might be the info discussing it in WS from liltigress Post # 31 in August http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69192&page=2

 

[songline]

Does that have to do with the money trail? Peter B, Parrish M. NLH, KFN, etc. This might be the info discussing it in WS from liltigress Post # 31 in August http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69192&page=2

BOY are you good at finding reference...from that long ago...WOW!

It may be part of the PB information. I am convinced there is something here that we do not know.
Notice that after post #31 that entire subject is gone... WHY? it did not ever get a test run....
There is little about that subject because it is said that mentioning anything to do with PB's name
makes a room full of people scatter from fear

But on IS site (in session) there were many discussions of Casey having had a job in escort service.
IS had links to Casey's page where she talked about a Brotha/Brothe (leaving the letter L off ).
Someone at IS added the definition from old dictionary meaning Brothel.

They also spoke about GA who found a compromising picture of Casey Which is how the fighting
at home first started. That is how they learned that there was no Universal Studios.
(At IS they said many things that are not said here),
go to that site and pull up discussions from last summer)

 

[concentric]

Was there a point in time where TonE L. told KC that the woman who who have a permanent relationship with him would have no children?

I think LE needs to look into this factor in more detail and depth, because I think KC was relying on the relationship with TonE to liberate her from her prior circumstances.

 

[MAMABEAR]

Was there a point in time where TonE L. told KC that the woman who who have a permanent relationship with him would have no children?

I think LE needs to look into this factor in more detail and depth, because I think KC was relying on the relationship with TonE to liberate her from her prior circumstances.

If I member right---he told her he wanted boys--no girls. Don't member he said no kids.

 

[MAMABEAR]

BOY are you good at finding reference...from that long ago...WOW!

It may be part of the PB information. I am convinced there is something here that we do not know.
Notice that after post #31 that entire subject is gone... WHY? it did not ever get a test run....
There is little about that subject because it is said that mentioning anything to do with PB's name
makes a room full of people scatter from fear

But on IS site (in session) there were many discussions of Casey having had a job in escort service.
IS had links to Casey's page where she talked about a Brotha/Brothe (leaving the letter L off ).
Someone at IS added the definition from old dictionary meaning Brothel.

They also spoke about GA who found a compromising picture of Casey Which is how the fighting
at home first started. That is how they learned that there was no Universal Studios.
(At IS they said many things that are not said here),
go to that site and pull up discussions from last summer)

Bolded---Who said it makes peeps run in fear? Do you mean here at W/S? I never heard of this fore. Are you scared?

Bring he Azz here---I ain't runnin from any ovem. Bring he self to my house. I ain't partial--I lub it.

 

[Searchfortruth]

Was there a point in time where TonE L. told KC that the woman who who have a permanent relationship with him would have no children?

I think LE needs to look into this factor in more detail and depth, because I think KC was relying on the relationship with TonE to liberate her from her prior circumstances.

You bring up a good, and I think important, point. I have always thought that there is more with Tony, either an interview not yet released or something from him, which will be brought out at trial. I believe he told Casey that she couldn't bring Caylee over (night of June 15th or June 16th) and might have told her he is not interested in a ready made family at some point. We know he told her about his desires to only have boys. I wonder if this is the main motive the state will use at trial, combined with Casey's desire to be care free, no responsibilities. I also think that Cindy said, at some point near June 15th, party's over, it's time for you to start acting like a mother...I am not doing this anymore. We know she complained to her supervisor that she was the one who had Caylee the first week of June (vacation) and Casey was hardly there. I guess the motive can be the combination of several different factors, right ? Or is it preferrable to have one nice and compact reason to hand to a jury ?

 

[Searchfortruth]

Bolded---Who said it makes peeps run in fear? Do you mean here at W/S? I never heard of this fore. Are you scared?

Bring he Azz here---I ain't runnin from any ovem. Bring he self to my house. I ain't partial--I lub it.

You are GREAT MamaBear !!!!! :blowkiss:

 

[songline]

Bolded---Who said it makes peeps run in fear? Do you mean here at W/S? I never heard of this fore. Are you scared?

Bring he Azz here---I ain't runnin from any ovem. Bring he self to my house. I ain't partial--I lub it.

<<<SNIP>>>
Mentioning the name Peter Benevides seems to be a real conversation killer. Several folks that I know quite well headed for the hills at the mention of the name. Benevides is so hot, people melt. Rumors are wonderful things, I’ll share what I have been told, his folks pack heat, and you basically do not want to mess with Mr Benevides.
http://www..net/120671

NOT me bringing his Azzz anywhere mmmm mmmm.
You will have to go after him yourself....ME? :chicken::chicken:

 

[songline]

Was there a point in time where TonE L. told KC that the woman who who have a permanent relationship with him would have no children?

I think LE needs to look into this factor in more detail and depth, because I think KC was relying on the relationship with TonE to liberate her from her prior circumstances.

IF that is IT!
then I think Casey should have been elated that Cindy wanted to take Caylee.
Then Casey can go to Tonie and say - DONE.
Now we can have the "Beautiful Life"

But I do think LE should question / investigate this guy much more.

 

[MAMABEAR]

<<<SNIP>>>
Mentioning the name Peter Benevides seems to be a real conversation killer. Several folks that I know quite well headed for the hills at the mention of the name. Benevides is so hot, people melt. Rumors are wonderful things, I’ll share what I have been told, his folks pack heat, and you basically do not want to mess with Mr Benevides.
http://www..net/120671

NOT me bringing his Azzz anywhere mmmm mmmm.
You will have to go after him yourself....ME? :chicken::chicken:

LIL KID, don't take much away from that site. I was over there and blogged before I came here. Thank God for W/S. I know all about what they are saying over there and don't believe it for one min. The integrity is lacking on some blogs. They have no proof of what they are saying. How can they be smarter than LE/FBI? Sorry, but hate for you to take the word of that bunch. But then again---to each his/her own.

If all that is true, do you think the LE/FBI wouldn't step in and clean house? Some thangs we have to leave for the others to work out. Peeps aren't scared of the Dude but one has to watch words because of lawsuits now-a-days. Know what I mean?

 

[songline]

LIL KID, don't take much away from that site. I was over there and blogged before I came here. Thank God for W/S. I know all about what they are saying over there and don't believe it for one min. The integrity is lacking on some blogs. They have no proof of what they are saying. How can they be smarter than LE/FBI? Sorry, but hate for you to take the word of that bunch. But then again---to each his/her own.

If all that is true, do you think the LE/FBI wouldn't step in and clean house? Some thangs we have to leave for the others to work out. Peeps aren't scared of the Dude but one has to watch words because of lawsuits now-a-days. Know what I mean?

I do know what you mean and I also know from past experience here that certain conversations are a taboo due to lawsuits. That is why I do read all over the place too.
I notices several conversations held else where that is not held here;
A- Bordello/Brothel
B- PB
I appreciate what you are saying but I am not one that will dig my head in the sand. I am willing to turn over all the stones, and then cast my vote.
Like you I'd say bring them here let me deal with them.

Mamabear there is so much we do not know.
Yes there is so much that points to Casey. She may have done the deed.
I am not convinced YET that there is not something holding a rope around these people necks.
BY now I am convinced that they are despicable people, God only knows what caliber of friends they have.
This Mr. PB just may be very innocent but someone out to get to him may have - sent him a message...Be careful I am getting closer to you. Mr. PB may not want the cops near him so he is floating GA to keep the cops at bay.
I realize you do not trust that site. Thank you for that information.
If you know that some sits are careful about legal matter, then you too know to read all over to pull together what you can.
What ever will shake out WILL. I am not bent on one way or the other.
but I am afraid there was too much time, and much cleaned up and we wont know the whole truth and nothing but the truth GA is a wuss.

 

[Brini]

You bring up a good, and I think important, point. I have always thought that there is more with Tony, either an interview not yet released or something from him, which will be brought out at trial. I believe he told Casey that she couldn't bring Caylee over (night of June 15th or June 16th) and might have told her he is not interested in a ready made family at some point. We know he told her about his desires to only have boys. I wonder if this is the main motive the state will use at trial, combined with Casey's desire to be care free, no responsibilities. I also think that Cindy said, at some point near June 15th, party's over, it's time for you to start acting like a mother...I am not doing this anymore. We know she complained to her supervisor that she was the one who had Caylee the first week of June (vacation) and Casey was hardly there. I guess the motive can be the combination of several different factors, right ? Or is it preferrable to have one nice and compact reason to hand to a jury ?

I think the State will bring all the factors together, for the jury.

Yep! TonE said he wanted sons, sometime in the future (not now).

And, TonE's livingroom floor guests said Caylee was adorable. But, she woke them early in the mornings, making noise. They didn't like that.

And, CA did tell KC to grow up and take care of her kid.

 

[ladybugplus]

new baby attention wore off Casey and responsibility of a kid was messing up her party life and her sex life.

 

[marlap]

Bump...

I still think one of ICA's primary motives was the fact that Caylee was becoming increasingly verbal and was very soon going to be alerting GA and CA that there was no job, nanny, etc...


"CeCe, I don't like taking naps in the car all day."

"Fun at the Nanny's? JoJo, I played in the car all day like normal."


Caylee becoming verbal plus ICA wanting freedom plus NOT wanting CA to get Caylee = First Degree Murder

 

[Silkprint]

I think she sooo wanted to be a part of this new group of friends .
She figured with Caylee gone everything would be wonderful .
That she and Tony would be the king and queen of the clubs . This is what I think she had going through her head ....even though she had no funding for this lifestyle . I think she was seething that her family was trying to bring her back to 'real life' in the days after she murdered Caylee .
I think her plan had been in place for months as her last resort and that her new friends were her excuse .
I think more people would have had their life in danger if they were close to her in the years to come .
Of course these are all I thinks ....

 

[Anais]

Bump...

I still think one of ICA's primary motives was the fact that Caylee was becoming increasingly verbal and was very soon going to be alerting GA and CA that there was no job, nanny, etc...


"CeCe, I don't like taking naps in the car all day."

"Fun at the Nanny's? JoJo, I played in the car all day like normal."


Caylee becoming verbal plus ICA wanting freedom plus NOT wanting CA to get Caylee = First Degree Murder

ITA ...keep it simple because it is true and will speak loudly to jurors.

 

[one_hooah_wife]

I posted this on TL thread but maybe it belongs here.

From the archives:

Tony says during polygraph exam that "he told casey at one time he only wanted to have boys when he was to have children" because he had two younger sisters and knew what was involved in raising girls

http://www.clickorlando.com/download...4/26984466.pdf

 

[jojomonkey]

Bump...

I still think one of ICA's primary motives was the fact that Caylee was becoming increasingly verbal and was very soon going to be alerting GA and CA that there was no job, nanny, etc...


"CeCe, I don't like taking naps in the car all day."

"Fun at the Nanny's? JoJo, I played in the car all day like normal."


Caylee becoming verbal plus ICA wanting freedom plus NOT wanting CA to get Caylee = First Degree Murder

Yes! For all we know Caylee might have already started talking and saying things that didn't make sense to GA and CA. I remember asking my toddler what he did that day when I picked him up from daycare. When he was the same age as Caylee his best friend at daycare was a girl name Sammie and he talked about her constantly.

I think she'd leave the house long enough for GA to leave for work, go back home, mess around on the computer, then leave again before CA came home. She probably killed time at the park or the mall, shopping when she had stolen money to spend. It was probably a boring way to spend the day.

Why didn't the stupid girl just get a job?

 

[gmt]

Yes! For all we know Caylee might have already started talking and saying things that didn't make sense to GA and CA. I remember asking my toddler what he did that day when I picked him up from daycare. When he was the same age as Caylee his best friend at daycare was a girl name Sammie and he talked about her constantly.

I think she'd leave the house long enough for GA to leave for work, go back home, mess around on the computer, then leave again before CA came home. She probably killed time at the park or the mall, shopping when she had stolen money to spend. It was probably a boring way to spend the day.

Why didn't the stupid girl just get a job?

Or even waited down the road where Caylee was dumped.