MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #1

[steelman]

My first instinct when I first heard and read about this was that someone from the gas station followed her after she left, forced her off the road.....did whatever they did for 90 minutes, and then lit the car and Jessica on fire afterwards.

I find it hard to believe that either she or her family would mix company with someone that was capable of doing something like this. Just because she whispered a name, doesn't mean she was totally familiar with the perp, it could just be someone she knows from the community. Hopefully it wasn't some generic name like Billy or Bobby or James.

 

[FindHG]

Hmm.. Lots of woods in a rural area. I wonder if there might be any hunting cameras in those trees that were pointed in the direction of the attack.

There seemed to be a couple of houses and places of business that have security cameras if the perp/s did not head back into town toward 51 and went south towards 35.

 

[kimi_SFC]

SCHMAE:

This is from early November near U of Louisville:

Possible Mobile Meth Lab Catches Fire In Car - WBIW.com / Local (Kentucky)

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The couple was told police were on their way and that is when the couple went to the back of the parking lot of (redacted). That is when a fire started inside the vehicle and the male passenger suffered burns.
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Police found precursors used to make meth inside the vehicle and police believe there was a mobile meth lab also inside the vehicle.
http://www.wbiw.com/local/archive/2014/11/possible-mobile-meth-lab-catches-fire-in-car.php

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It does happen, and in no way am I implying anything negative towards the victim. We have to look at every possibility, the likelihood, and rule them in or out.

At this juncture, I'm not even certain this is her car. Could someone have used such a device as a weapon to harm her?

There are awful possibilities no matter how you view this, IMO.




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[The Fonz]

This is such a brutal and horrific crime and I can't even imagine what her family is going thru. My prayers and condolences go out to them.

The $14.00 versus usually $5.00 in gas doesn't seem odd for the reason she had just recently started a job. I was a broke teenager and would pay my gas in loose change a lot until I had a "real" paying job. When I got my first paycheck, the first thing I did was fill up my car. http://www.khou.com/story/news/nati...her-final-hours-of-jessica-chambers/20237599/

As for "going somewhere" maybe she had plans for Sunday and didn't want to deal with stopping at a gas station and just start off with a full tank. This all just my :moo:

I've been thinking that the $14.00 could be important. If her gas tank leaked and she only put a small amount in at a time to keep it from spilling out, $14.00 would mean she knew she had a bit of a drive ahead of her. Just speculation, but a leaky gas tank would explain a couple of things.

 

[SCHMAE]

I read this in a James Patterson novel as well. Granted this was fictional, and it was larger (it also caught fire). I believe it does happen. I'll see if I can find links. :cow:


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I can remember 5 to 10 incidents locally in the last 12 or 18 months on the news , where this is what happens. Most were homes but some were cars.

ETA I remember a case ( IIRC) where a guy went into walmart, bought a few supplies and tried to mix it and his car blew up in the walmart parking lot .

ETA Some supporting links.
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Meth-Eyed-as-Possible-Cause-in-Car-Fire-221713551.html

http://www.vice.com/read/crystal-meth-addicts-keep-setting-themselves-on-fire ( Idk if vice is an ok source, but since it's not related to this case, maybe so? lease: )

 

[wfgodot]

I don't think, as some conjecture above, that illegal activity was involved in the death.

 

[Foxfire]

I was going off another post re: rolling meth lab. It happens all the time ! They can mix up a few chemicals ( whatever makes it ) and then there is a process involving some slow shaking ( correct me if Im wrong anyone who knows better) inside a soda bottle. But if shaken or moved too vigorously those bottles explode and catch fire. It has been the blame of many car AND home explosions.

Making a batch of what, Schmae? I'm not that versed in making drugs but I believe anything that can blow up (e.g. a meth lab) couldn't really be done in a car on the fly. This was no accident, IMO. And, FWIW, if the phone was ejected from the car due to the explosion, I would think that it could have separated on impact (if it hit the road/rock) but that impact damage would be evident on either the battery or the phone.

I read this in a James Patterson novel as well. Granted this was fictional, and it was larger (it also caught fire). I believe it does happen. I'll see if I can find links. :cow:


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Wow! The things you learn on WS!! Thanks for clarifying, love.

ETA - I see the post now about the rolling lab. Got it

While following theTN Holly Bobo abduction/murder, we became educated on meth and the various methods of meth manufacturing, etc. Meth is the drug of choice and the modern day moonshine in rural areas of the south. TN was the #1 state for illegal Meth Lab busts in 2010, and Darden County where Holly was abducted was the #1 county in TN for meth lab busts. Over 100 illegal meth labs were located in the two week search for her... The suspects arrested in her case were members of a Meth Gang referred too as the A Train... In virtually every case that I have followed over the past seven years which involved sexual predators/serial killers, there was a meth connection...

Meth enhances weight loss and increases labido, and imo, eventually creates psychopathic personalities. Meth tweakers are very violent and are responsible for many of the horrific crimes in these rural areas.. This heinous crime is also reminiscent of the death of 24-year-old Megan Sharpton;

http://www.wsmv.com/story/20012882/megan-sharpton-plea-deal-donnie-jones
A 37-year-old man who pleaded guilty in the death of a Middle Tennessee nursing student... after he previously pleaded guilty in the death of 24-year-old Megan Sharpton. ... Police said she was murdered and her body was set on fire to cover up the crime..

Wife of former sheriff arrested in Henry County

Posted: Aug 03, 2011 6:39 AM EDT
Updated: Aug 31, 2011 8:35 AM EDT

PARIS, TN (WSMV) -
The wife of a former Sheriff and county Mayor in Henry County is facing drug charges, according to the The Paris Post-Intelligencer.

Mitzi Shepard, 48, and her son, Joshua Martin, 24, were both arrested Monday night.

Officers say they found a mobile meth lab and some methamphetamine in Shepard's car. They're both charged with conspiracy to manufacture meth.
Shepard is the wife of Joe Shepard, who spent several years as the Gibson County Sheriff in the 1990s and early 2000s. He was elected mayor of Gibson County in 2006 but currently holds no political office.

Read more: http://www.wsmv.com/story/15199421/wife-of-former-sheriff-arrested-in-henry-county#ixzz3LhDCIlM5
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Mobile Meth Lab Explosion Caught On Tape. A deadly mobile meth lab explosion in a hospital parking lot is caught on tape.
http://www.wcsh6.com/video/1277216701001/1/Mobile-Meth-Lab-Explosion-Caught-On-Tape
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Portable Meth Lab Explodes In a Guy's Pants While ...
http://gizmodo.com/5905873/portable-meth-lab-explodes-in-a-guys-pants-while-he-runs-from-the-cops
Apr 27, 2012 - Medical personnel checked out Williams and the road was closed so emergency crews could clean up the scene. Portable Meth Lab Explodes ..
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Oct 8, 2014 - WDBJ7 got a rare look at just how deadly a popular method of making meth can be. A man in Rockbridge County died this week from burns suffered in the chemical fire..

Rare shake and bake meth lab explosion highlights potential danger
http://www.wdbj7.com/news/local/rar...xplosion-highlights-potential-danger/29023348

 

[skibaboo]

Its curious that she would pull into the pumps, with no car at the pumps, turn around with her car facing north only to leave heading south. Its as if there was a change of plans while at the store.

Her car is at the pump facing south the whole time? But you piqued my interest.



I think this sounds reasonable to me, check the timestamps at 0.33 seconds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReFu42xD8rs

Home is on Carlisle Rd, so to get to the gas station she has to enter from the south of highway 51, she pulls around to the right of the pumps as the gas cap is on the left of the car. She then exits to the south again.



Green is entrance to gas pump, red is exit. Have I got that right? Seems like it makes sense to me.

 

[skibaboo]

Guys...

County Sheriff Dennis Darby said today that many of the details are still being worked out by the crime lab, including the question of whether an accelerant was used to start the fire.

“We're definitely treating this as an arson. We're trying to determine through lab results what kind of arson,” Champion said.

Not accident, not drug escapades gone wrong, ARSON

http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-calling-witnesses-attack-mississippi-woman-burned-death/story?id=27534305

Don't hit me!

 

[Isabelle]

The initial reports that it was lighter fluid might have been based on odor. My understanding is that experienced arson investigators can often determine by smell what accelerant was used.

Wonder if ever clear was used? Once had a young man in burn unit who had set himself on fire with ever clear. He did not make it.

 

[LR1]

Her car is at the pump facing south the whole time? But you peaked my interest.

You're right ski, I had my bearings crossed up, she was parked facing south.

 

[MamaJoJo]

If this could only be an accident…

IMO, something much more sinister went down.

Poor, Jessica. RIP baby.

 

[wfgodot]

“We're definitely treating this as an arson. We're trying to determine through lab results what kind of arson,” Champion said.

Snip.

Meaning....what, exactly, Mr Champion?

 

[SCHMAE]

Guys...

County Sheriff Dennis Darby said today that many of the details are still being worked out by the crime lab, including the question of whether an accelerant was used to start the fire.

“We're definitely treating this as an arson. We're trying to determine through lab results what kind of arson,” Champion said.

Not accident, not drug escapades gone wrong, ARSON

http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-calling-witnesses-attack-mississippi-woman-burned-death/story?id=27534305

Don't hit me!

No, that's good. We're just speculating and there will be a case where a 'rolling meth lab' factors in so now we all know it's possible. !

 

[SCHMAE]

If this could only be an accident…

IMO, something much more sinister went down.

Poor, Jessica. RIP baby.

I agree Mama. I guess even though we all know it's possible, it's a little easier to imagine an accident than someone doing this on purpose. The idea of no arrests yet, after she spoke a name (s) just has me wondering about other scenarios.

 

[Isabelle]

The battery was out of her phone. Was the battery cover on the phone as if it were replaced after the battery removed or was the cover still off? Not sure what kind of phone she had but if she dropped it after exiting the car it could have fallen out then. Do we know if the battery was found?

I'm leaning toward a tragic engine fire that rapidly overtook her and the car causing her to lose control. The Kia Rio did have this as a recall problem.

 

[Lanesmommy]

Here is a quick map I made up showing an overall view of the area.

Zoom in and out with the center wheel on your mouse.

Click the icons for information.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zZ5px4sAbxvs.k8mRaYz0Yi4U

Looking at this map, it would be my first guess that the party she went to was between the gas station and where her car was found. The spot where her car was found is the first road/driveway after you leave the "suburbs". I think she picked up some guy/guys at the party and they were going to drink or smoke. Maybe they were drunk (although I think it was still early 7-8 pm but anything is possible when you're 19 trust me) and when the perp tried to force himself on JC she resisted. This is so tragic I hope she gets justice soon.

 

[Lanesmommy]

The battery was out of her phone. Was the battery cover on the phone as if it were replaced after the battery removed or was the cover still off? Not sure what kind of phone she had but if she dropped it after exiting the car it could have fallen out then. Do we know if the battery was found?

I'm leaning toward a tragic engine fire that rapidly overtook her and the car causing her to lose control. The Kia Rio did have this as a recall problem.

People mag says her car was '05 Rio and there wasn't a fuel system recall for this year... but anything is possible!

 

[Isabelle]

People mag says her car was '05 Rio and there wasn't a fuel system recall for this year... but anything is possible!

Unsure why I thought it was a 2003. May be like the GM recall??

 

[Foxfire]

If this could only be an accident…

IMO, something much more sinister went down.

Poor, Jessica. RIP baby.

Mystery Deepens in Case of Burned Mississippi Teen Jessica Chambers as Police Call for Witnesses
Dec 11, 2014 <sniped & BBM>
http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-cal...sissippi-woman-burned-death/story?id=27534305

County Sheriff Dennis Darby said today that many of the details are still being worked out by the crime lab, including the question of whether an accelerant was used to start the fire.

&#8220;We're definitely treating this as an arson. We're trying to determine through lab results what kind of arson,&#8221; Champion said.

They added that they have been able to determine that the attacker likely got in the car with her, although they still do not have an official suspect or person of interest.

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