MS MS - Myra Lewis, 2, Camden, 1 March 2014 - #2

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bakerlady said:
What does the father do for work? I assume mom stayed home with the kids.

How does one commit welfare fraud? Did the parents lie about their income, claim someone else's kids, or did they trade food stamps for cash? That is all I can come up with.

In my state, medical assistance is included in the term 'welfare'. So, I am wondering if they lost health coverage for the kids, and felt they could not afford Myra's health care and did something to her.

I know it's kind of far fetched, they obviously like children if they have so many, but I'm stumped. I really don't think the parents hurt Myra. I think some neighborhood creep, or one of the older kid's friends, or a crazy uncle got her.
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BBM

The most common welfare fraud committed is unreported income, which can end up being tens of thousands of dollars in fraud. So, in other words, maybe one parent is reported as being out of work when they really do have a job. That makes the family eligible for all kinds of aid, especially with a lot children, that really adds up to $$$.
I was told that maybe she only got probation due to it not being a high dollar amount. This was just a guess thrown out by someone I know who used to investigate welfare fraud. JMO.
 
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1403/11/ijvm.01.html

I made some notes awhile back when I watched this. I know she is not the greatest or most reliable, but some things stuck out to me.

CASSANDRA BACON, HELPED SEARCH FOR MYRA (via phone): Well, they`re a nice couple. When you see one, you see them all. If you go to the grocery store, they`re together, and the children. And the 2-year-old, or the mother and the father.

I found this interesting, since the day in question mom went grocery shopping, alone.

Jane mentioned dad filed bankruptcy two years ago and mom last work at KFC. It's unknown where they work now.
 
hockeymom4 said:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1403/11/ijvm.01.html

I made some notes awhile back when I watched this. I know she is not the greatest or most reliable, but some things stuck out to me.

CASSANDRA BACON, HELPED SEARCH FOR MYRA (via phone): Well, they`re a nice couple. When you see one, you see them all. If you go to the grocery store, they`re together, and the children. And the 2-year-old, or the mother and the father.

I found this interesting, since the day in question mom went grocery shopping, alone.

Jane mentioned dad filed bankruptcy two years ago and mom last work at KFC. It's unknown where they work now.
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BBM - That is something that jumped out at me too when I read that transcript. What a coincidence that they always go together according to the friend, but on the day this baby vanishes into thin air that pattern changed! WHY? What REALLY happened that day?
 
hockeymom4 said:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1403/11/ijvm.01.html

I made some notes awhile back when I watched this. I know she is not the greatest or most reliable, but some things stuck out to me.

CASSANDRA BACON, HELPED SEARCH FOR MYRA (via phone): Well, they`re a nice couple. When you see one, you see them all. If you go to the grocery store, they`re together, and the children. And the 2-year-old, or the mother and the father.

I found this interesting, since the day in question mom went grocery shopping, alone.

Jane mentioned dad filed bankruptcy two years ago and mom last work at KFC. It's unknown where they work now.
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BBM
I thought that was an interesting comment, too. It certainly seems contradictory to the events of March 1. However, at the time I read it, I also thought to myself "Who takes that many children with them to the grocery store?" I mean maybe occasionally but all the time?
 
And updates like the one below are getting to be a bit ridiculous. The family seems to never be at their home. Well then where are they? Because I have not seen ONE picture of this family in the media that shows them out looking for their missing child. So what are they doing exactly?

I'm just so frustrated with this case. If this were my child there is no news crew anywhere that would need to try and get a hold of me because I'd be beating their door down to get on TV with a picture of my child. Every day! All day!

mike evans ‏@crabblers 4h
Back in Camden, Miss. All quiet on the road, nobody at the Lewis home. No sign of any #searchforMyraLewis #day17 pic.twitter.com/KrIRaowQDd
 
FindingTheMissing said:
And updates like the one below are getting to be a bit ridiculous. The family seems to never be at their home. Well then where are they? Because I have not seen ONE picture of this family in the media that shows them out looking for their missing child. So what are they doing exactly?

I'm just so frustrated with this case. If this were my child there is no news crew anywhere that would need to try and get a hold of me because I'd be beating their door down to get on TV with a picture of my child. Every day! All day!

mike evans ‏@crabblers 4h
Back in Camden, Miss. All quiet on the road, nobody at the Lewis home. No sign of any #searchforMyraLewis #day17 pic.twitter.com/KrIRaowQDd
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This all reminds me of Lisa Irwin as well...JMO
 
FindingTheMissing said:
BBM - That is something that jumped out at me too when I read that transcript. What a coincidence that they always go together according to the friend, but on the day this baby vanishes into thin air that pattern changed! WHY? What REALLY happened that day?
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Sorry, I'm calling BS..... I'm not buying that they all went about together all the time.
 
Do you all feel that Madison County was also extremely secretive in the Abigail Bonner case? I recall having that impression. Or maybe cautious is the word, as "if we say very little, very little can be held against us".
 
msmamanana said:
Do you all feel that Madison County was also extremely secretive in the Abigail Bonner case? I recall having that impression. Or maybe cautious is the word, as "if we say very little, very little can be held against us".
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YES Ma'am!
 
msmamanana said:
She also got the spot for their evening Facebook newfeed with a link to that story.

Maybe some of you have been following SM and saw deleted posts and others activities have tips to offer law enforcement?
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Are you referring to WJTV's FB? Just saw a comment on there below the **MISSING TODDLER** post from tonight that set off my hinky meter..maybe just wishful thinking..
 
I didn't read the comments there but I will. I have already seen a comment about racial discrimination though, which is also why I mention the Bonner case as being so similar in regard to LE behavior.
 
msmamanana said:
I didn't read the comments there but I will. I have already seen a comment about racial discrimination though, which is also why I mention the Bonner case as being so similar in regard to LE behavior.
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I'm with ya, they are as mum about this case as they were with Abigail...:(
 
I think that whoever that guy's LE friend is, is about to be his exfriend. That's about the only thing I am fairly sure of.
 
Very important question. I know of a case in MS where a child was taken by a biological noncustodial father from school under false pretense. The mother knew the county the child was in but could not find her. She had a medical issue that eventually became an emergency without treatment and the mother got her back after she ended up in a hospital and told the nurses she had been abducted by her biological father.

However, the mother tried to file missing person reports in two counties. The one where she was taken, and the one the mother knew she was in. LE in neither county would take a report or take any action because the abducting parent was a biological parent. The mom was repeatedly told this was a civil court case and to get an attorney even despite the medical issue and her having full custody.

I would like to know what the law is in MS regarding noncustodial abduction.

In Myra's case, would admittance that a biological parent had taken her make it a civil court case and not an abduction or missing person case? Knowledge of that, and fear no one would search, could be a good reason to insist on not knowing who took a child.

Anyone help me understand the law in MS is on this for my own personal knowledge?
 
msmamanana said:
I think that whoever that guy's LE friend is, is about to be his exfriend. That's about the only thing I am fairly sure of.
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I don't believe the friend exists. Him posting the info can jeopardize the case. If the friend exists, his picking wrong people to tell things to and he will never get info again. My friends and family have told me things, but I don't say a word, even when the case has been on here. I keep those comments to myself. You have to respect them and their job and the missing person. It can jeopardize the whole case. If it turns out to be true, I bet he heard from a local and is pretending to be in the know. It happens in every case.
 
I found this, and it appears specific to MS:

Parental Abduction Of Child
Rather than use the court system to work out custody disputes, a parent may resort to abducting or kidnapping her child. By abducting the child, she is assured of never obtaining legal custody of her child.

SIDEBAR: The Parental Kidnapping Prevention Act, a federal law, prevents an abducting parent from ever obtaining legal custody in another state where the court might be unaware that the child has been kidnapped. Under the Act, the court’s order would be invalid.

Parental abduction of a child is a grave matter, and any parent who believes his child is at risk should take certain precautions, including:

notifying local law enforcement if your ex-spouse has threatened to abduct the child;
notifying school administrators and teachers, bus drivers, day care providers, neighbors and friends that your child may be at risk;
keeping recent photographs of your child, along with a current physical description;
maintaining current information on your ex-spouse: addresses and telephone numbers of friends, employers, former employers and places he or she frequents;
knowing your ex-spouses driver’s license number and Social Security number (these are on the divorce decree); and
teaching your child his full name, address and telephone number and showing him how to use the phone (he should be aware he can dial 911 from any pay phone or cell phone).
TIP: Contact the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children at (800) 843-5678 or www.missingkids.com for more information on how to prevent parental abduction.

TIP: If you believe your child will be taken out of the country, his passport can be entered in the passport name-check system so that he cannot be removed from the United States. Contact the U.S. Department of State Passport Services at (202) 955-0231 as soon as your child is missing if he is at risk for an international abduction.

My ex-husband refused to return our children to me after a weekend visit. Is this an abduction even though I know the children’s whereabouts?

Yes. Abduction is any act that keeps a child from her lawful custodian or a person with a legal right to visitation. It is not necessary that the child be hidden or concealed.

My husband and I are living apart and I want to take the children with me to another state. Since I am their mother and there is no custody order in place, is this an abduction?

Yes. Although you and your husband are not yet divorced, it is a crime to deny your husband access to the children. The fact that you are the mother of the children does not give you the right to obstruct their father’s legal right to see them.

I believe allowing my son to return to his mother after his weekend visit to me would put him in danger. Can I be charged with abduction if I refuse to return him?

Yes. If you believe your son is in physical danger, you should contact the local police. Depending on the situation (for example, if criminal activities are ongoing at your ex-wife’s home), the police may permit you to keep your son.

My ex-husband refuses to allow our children to visit me as required by the court. What do I do?

You must go to court and ask for a contempt hearing. If your husband refuses to follow the court’s order, he will be held in contempt and could face time in jail. Additionally, you can insist local law enforcement arrest your ex-husband for abducting the children. If your ex-husband has fled with the children, a felony warrant will be issued for his arrest.

via Online Law Library of:
Ronald Morton formed the Morton Law Firm in 1997. The firm’s physical address is located in Clinton, Mississippi.
http://www.onlinevirtuallawfirm.com/?page_id=142
 
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