This was another question that I had as well - apparently all 3 .. Jessica, Nancy and Carrie were in training for the 1/2 marathon or something right?
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This was another question that I had as well - apparently all 3 .. Jessica, Nancy and Carrie were in training for the 1/2 marathon or something right?
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I don't really understand how Jessica claimed at the beginning that she had "heard of" Carrie but didn't know her last name or how to reach her, yet now she claims that the 3 of them were training together and planned all their runs with each other? Or do I have Jessica confused with someone else that told BC that the day of Nancy's disappearance?
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Ohhhh I wanna go too. Hmmmm...what time does it all begin?
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I've been having trouble w/Jessica's affidavit -but I can't find where I understood things... admittedly it may have been something BC said - or something "interpreted" here...
The Carrie thing.. as well as I thought I remembered that Nancy was supposed to be over at Jessica's later in the morning.. closer to noon - then in her affidavit it said at 8:30 am ... I can't find where I got the later time though...
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I'm surprised I haven't found this place before.
I've been following the Reiser murder case for the past couple of years. It's eerily amazing how similar that case is to this one.
Of course, we do not have a lot of factual information about this case and the speculation has gone rampant. The affidavits do open interesting windows for investigation.
Speaking of there being three sides, I thought it interesting that Michael Warwick provided affidavits for both sides and the pictures painted are, shall we say, at odds.
Such is the characteristic of an adversarial law system I suppose.
I've been following the Reiser murder case for the past couple of years. It's eerily amazing how similar that case is to this one.
Of course, we do not have a lot of factual information about this case and the speculation has gone rampant. The affidavits do open interesting windows for investigation.
Speaking of there being three sides, I thought it interesting that Michael Warwick provided affidavits for both sides and the pictures painted are, shall we say, at odds.
Such is the characteristic of an adversarial law system I suppose.
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Actually, IIRC, Heather was still married at the time she had her affair with Brad. Ehh......but IIRC, by the time the hubby found out, she was over Brad and onto another fellow, who I believe she is still with.
Is strange that a guy would STAY friends with someone who'd slept with your wife. Don't care if the affair is over or not or if I was still married to the cheating wench. I would NOT be friends, EVER AGAIN, with the person who betrayed me!
Interesting that the majority of Brad's 'witnesses' were people he barely saw or didn't even live in the same country with him. Seeing a family member for a week a year does not necessarily make a good witness overall as to the present state of affairs. Of course, we also know that he was alienated from said family members. Oh, yeah, the witness to that fact is dead. Chalk one up for Brad.
Michael Morwick seems a little wishy-washy to me. Plays both sides of the fence. Of course, if he'd been called before the court under oath, they most likely would have been able to extract the same responses from him on each side. It's all in the wording and limited answers, no elaborating.
Of course, we must remember that Nancy and Brad were good friends with the Morwicks previously. After they started the marital problems, IIRC, Brad would go over there and spend a great deal of time there. That's why, IMO, Nancy felt uncomfortable leaving the kids there the night Brad summoned her to deliver them to him there and then he made her wait an hour for HIS arrival.
Whether this is the same attorney Brad had representing him during the divorce proceeding that never happened. Interesting that Brad's entire demeanor changed once he had an attorney. His whole attitude towards the children changed, WHEN it was at his convenience.
Interesting,
fran
PS...FWIW, IIRC, the vacation at the beach with the Morwicks was prior to the divorce filing.......fran
Hi guys,
I just read all the affadavits in support of Brad, nothing really glowing or highly impressive here. In fact, the one from his mother sounded like something from a total stranger.
His father seems eager to beat NC up for expensive jeans, I am curious how much BC's triathalons cost (entry fees, travel,hotels etc.), his bike ($$$), his running shoes, the gym membership....it's a double edged debt sword here.
Did he ever buy gifts for his girlfriends? It could be another motive for controlling the money....
These affadavits seem to fizzle into nothing. I wouldn't be able to make a judgement based on those at all...I would want more evidence of his love for the kids for the entire marrraige not just the last few months, and I would want to hear someone say something amazing about him.
Jekyll and Hyde for sure....somewhere lies the truth.
I'm still trying to get over the fact that BC went to Europe for 2 weeks and didn't call his wife with the newborn...can't fathom that one, cell phones can make a call over the pond, and I'm sure the techie has a lap tap, email is easy...that one story is soooo telling. ALso hearing that he had an affair over there (hearsay) was tough to swallow.
Don't mean to beat a drum, but stilll waiting for BC to announce a reward for the killer(s) AND the hiring of a PI to investigate because the local LE aren't looking for the right killer.
I just read all the affadavits in support of Brad, nothing really glowing or highly impressive here. In fact, the one from his mother sounded like something from a total stranger.
His father seems eager to beat NC up for expensive jeans, I am curious how much BC's triathalons cost (entry fees, travel,hotels etc.), his bike ($$$), his running shoes, the gym membership....it's a double edged debt sword here.
Did he ever buy gifts for his girlfriends? It could be another motive for controlling the money....
These affadavits seem to fizzle into nothing. I wouldn't be able to make a judgement based on those at all...I would want more evidence of his love for the kids for the entire marrraige not just the last few months, and I would want to hear someone say something amazing about him.
Jekyll and Hyde for sure....somewhere lies the truth.
I'm still trying to get over the fact that BC went to Europe for 2 weeks and didn't call his wife with the newborn...can't fathom that one, cell phones can make a call over the pond, and I'm sure the techie has a lap tap, email is easy...that one story is soooo telling. ALso hearing that he had an affair over there (hearsay) was tough to swallow.
Don't mean to beat a drum, but stilll waiting for BC to announce a reward for the killer(s) AND the hiring of a PI to investigate because the local LE aren't looking for the right killer.
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Much of our earliest information was based on assumptions. Because we understood the initial phone call, but based on the timing, for some reason we thought Nancy was originally supposed to be there for painting at 1 or 2. That's how rumors start, after all.
We now find that she was scheduled to go at 8:00 am. WHICH, IMO, makes it even more unlikely that Nancy would have gone jogging for a two hour run that morning and not leaving until 7, which was only an hour before the scheduled paint date. We also learned from the information gleaned the past few days is that Jessica, Carrie and Nancy were running partners and always knew each other's running schedule. Jessica was NOT aware Nancy and Carrie had planned a jog that a.m. Did they in fact? or was this a made up staging alibi by the grieving husband?
Oh well, it all comes out in the wash.
Just sayin'
fran
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Right.
So you sit down as two adults and come up with a balanced, agreed upon budget that works for everyone. You don't follow your spouse around and only pay for the small amount of gas you deem necessary for them. You don't remove the other spouse's name from bank accounts.
That was another question I posed .. if someone answered .. I apologize I must have missed it.. how does he remove her from the bank account without her permission?
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The references to the "follow around", "pay for gas" could've been one incident, it may have been early in the morning and maybe they went to a place where the inside was closed, but you could pay at the pump. (Is that the situation at the convenience store across from the preschool and all night gym and/or at the one near Parkway & Kildare? It seems like the store at Macedionia/Swift Creek makes you pay through a bulletproof window at night unless you pay at the pump)
As for the only so much... I buy most of the gas for both my wife and my cars (using the joint account) and sometimes when I'm squeezing a dime (which it sounds like Brad and Nancy often did), I'll only put in however much we'll need and sometimes, if I know from media reports that the price is going to fall, I only put in enough to get through to the reduction.
fran
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Write a check for the entire balance, 0 the account out and open a new account.
Not really that hard.
JMHO
fran
It may be because he was considered the primary account holder and she was secondary.
I tried to close a savings acct hubby and I had but the bank would not allow me to do it........yet he was able to close it without my signature (which I considered a bit sexist....lol). The bank did allow me to withdraw the majority of the funds in the acct the day I tried to close it and hubby had to go in a few days later to technically close out the account.
So my point is BC can make changes/close the account without her signature yet she would be unable to do anything to the account without his signature.
Another possibility could be that BC let their joint account go dormant, or closed it, and opened up a new account with only his name on it.
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Thank you so much Just the Fax!
For some reason, I didn't have that, but I know I read it previously.
Have fun in court tomorrow. Don't forget we expect a full written report.
All the hmms and haws included. We don't really need the designer's name of their outfit though, that wouldn't have any relevance on custody!
thanks again,
fran
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Totally, totally agree. She sounds very cold and distant - if my mom was giving an affadavit, it would go on for pages and pages, you couldn't shut her up about how wonderful I am. :crazy:
I can tell you from experience - when a husband is with another woman, the last thing he wants to do is check in with the wife! Doesn't surprise me one bit.
I am sad that the whole thing has to be public...honestly it's not good for either of them. If Brad is innocent it's tragic to drag all this out in the public...and either way, it kills Nancy again. I'm sure she would be utterly horrified.
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