Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #15

[FlowerChild]

What if Nancy DID tell BC she was going to run with Carrie and had no intention of running with her? Wives in the midst of a difficult divorce sometimes mislead husbands to protect their interests. Maybe Nancy told Carrie to lie to Brad (or anyone else) and say they were running if asked? Maybe Nancy was instead going out to make arrangements of some sort relating to her divorce, her and the girls moving out or her and the girls going to Canada and thought running with Carrie was the perfect "cover" to get her out of the house away from Brad and the girls for 2 or 3 hours without arousing suspicion?

Or maybe Nancy just wanted to run alone and told Brad she was going with Carrie just to put him off?

Maybe Carrie had covered for Nancy's absences before - perhaps it was a "plan" that she and Nancy had and nobody knew about it (including Nancy's other friends). Maybe Carrie called the evening before and talked to Brad and he KNEW Nancy was NOT going to run with Carrie the next morning and yet Nancy kept saying she was? Maybe BC found out Nancy had been hiding something from him and was continuing to lie to him by saying she was going running with Carrie when she wasn't and that set him off and he confronted Nancy?

My Opinion

 

[FullDisclosure]

OK where did you hear the "Keys were on the counter" ? Post a link please

I wondered that as well, but my theory was just to illustrate my point, so I let it go

Is there a link, Mom?

 

[FullDisclosure]

Here it is, JTF....you should watch, as should everyone. Lots of interesting tidbits...

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index....327108&referralPlaylistId=search|nancy cooper

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So, JTF, did you get a chance to watch? Thoughts? Anyone? Anyone??

 

[reddress58]

What if Nancy DID tell BC she was going to run with Carrie and had no intention of running with her? Wives in the midst of a difficult divorce sometimes mislead husbands to protect their interests. Maybe Nancy told Carrie to lie to Brad (or anyone else) and say they were running if asked? Maybe Nancy was instead going out to make arrangements of some sort relating to her divorce, her and the girls moving out or her and the girls going to Canada and thought running with Carrie was the perfect "cover" to get her out of the house away from Brad and the girls for 2 or 3 hours without arousing suspicion?

Or maybe Nancy just wanted to run alone and told Brad she was going with Carrie just to put him off?

Maybe Carrie had covered for Nancy's absences before - perhaps it was a "plan" that she and Nancy had and nobody knew about it (including Nancy's other friends). Maybe Carrie called the evening before and talked to Brad and he KNEW Nancy was NOT going to run with Carrie the next morning and yet Nancy kept saying she was? Maybe BC found out Nancy had been hiding something from him and was continuing to lie to him by saying she was going running with Carrie when she wasn't and that set him off and he confronted Nancy?

My Opinion

Then how do you explain her plans to paint at jessica's at 8?

 

[d99gr81]

This fox news interview (and I do hope I linked correctly!) says so much, as far as I'm concerned. Note that Clea says NC had no plans to run with Carrie but that she DID say she planned to get a jog in in the morning. Also, when asked directly if she thinks NC's husband could be involved...note her answer. Also note her answer to the question about "marital problems."

Just very interesting, IMO....

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index....327108&referralPlaylistId=search|nancy cooper

She also said she did not "think" Brad had anything to do with it.

 

[Just the Fax]

Here it is, JTF....you should watch, as should everyone. Lots of interesting tidbits...

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?
playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=2327108&referralPlaylistId=search|nancy%20cooper

Interestingly comments On Tuesday am before the body was found and classed as a murder.

1- She said "We found out after the fact they had not planned on running that day"

2- "She mentioned the night before she was going to get a jog in the morning and that's what we expect happened"


Who did Nancy mention this to the night before ?
Unless it was direct to Clea, I question the accuracy of the statement.

Clea sure changed her tune about Brad on 7-23-08.......

 

[raisincharlie]

So, JTF, did you get a chance to watch? Thoughts? Anyone? Anyone??[/quote]


I didn't hear any revelations other than her saying Absolutely Not to any possiblity that Nancy may have been meeting up with someone.

She confirmed that Nancy and Carrie had no plans to run that day per her conversation with Carrie and that Nancy did confirm the night before she was going running the next morning.

She confirmed Nancy was the type that would show up.

 

[d99gr81]

Wonder why he would tell Jessica at 9:25 am : "Nancy went for a run with Carrie Clarke and she would be back soon"

Why would he place a witness that he knew did not exist with her ?
It would have been much more believable if he said she went for a run alone.

Maybe she lied and said she was running with her.

 

[raisincharlie]

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Clea sure changed her tune about Brad on 7-23-08.......

Kind of what I thought as well.

 

[Just the Fax]

Maybe she lied and said she was running with her.

Now what good reason would she have to tell him that lie ?

 

[FlowerChild]

Then how do you explain her plans to paint at jessica's at 8?

She thought she'd be done with "whatever" in an hour? Maybe she did plan on going for a quick run that AM ALONE - before Brad confronted her about the whole "lie" that she was going with Carrie? Maybe there was no "run" and Brad just confronted her about PREVIOUS "runs" with Carrie that weren't "runs" at all. Maybe Brad even thought ALL her friends were "in" on the plan to deceive him? Maybe when Nancy said she had to go paint at Jessica's that morning Brad thought it was another "lie"?

I know that BOTH SIDES in these difficult divorces with kids do things in secret to prepare for the inevitable battles about support, custody etc. Nancy seems smart and therefore I would not put it past her to conspire with all or some of her friends to deceive Brad about her preparations. She had a significant amount of cash in her purse, right? What if she was preparing to "run" or at least leave Brad the following Monday while Brad was at work? If he found out, he might have gone right over the edge. Nancy's friends sure seemed on edge and uncommonly concerned about her welfare - why? MAYBE because they KNEW she was preparing to leave Brad and things might get bad if he found out?

My Opinion

 

[MoonFlwr]

Now what good reason would she have to tell him that lie ?

Playing devil's advocate, there could be any number of reasons to lie about jogging with someone.

Their marriage was in disarray.

 

[d99gr81]

Well, by all accounts she was not a selfish, narcissistic loner that needed personal web pages to brag about her personal accomplishments.

What are your accounts? Not only do you know nothing of who they REALLY were... you go by what her family and friends have said about him... so I will add some others that have said this about NC.

She has a 1200 dollar purse... 200 dollar jeans...8000 dollar paintings.... 200 pedicures. BMW x5... sure looks like showing off to me as well. Please to say because he had some web pages where he blogs or documents his accomplishments is NOTHING many others don't do.

 

[d99gr81]

Now what good reason would she have to tell him that lie ?

Seriously???? OK to be gentle you are one of a few with serious tunnel vision.... UM she could be having an affair..again... My ex told me she was going to the counselor alone to fix her problems that he made us aware of in our sessions ...only to find out she was seeing a lawyer and stealing my money...please if you get out of the tunnel and see out side the box ...just once...ahhh never mind its never ending.

 

[Just the Fax]

Playing devil's advocate, there could be any number of reasons to lie about jogging with someone.

Their marriage was in disarray.

Yea, maybe if she was meeting a boyfriend .
Go back and listen to Clea...she totally discounted that possibility when asked by Fox News.

You either believe Clea or you don't...can't have it both ways

 

[d99gr81]

She thought she'd be done with "whatever" in an hour? Maybe she did plan on going for a quick run that AM ALONE - before Brad confronted her about the whole "lie" that she was going with Carrie? Maybe there was no "run" and Brad just confronted her about PREVIOUS "runs" with Carrie that weren't "runs" at all. Maybe Brad even thought ALL her friends were "in" on the plan to deceive him? Maybe when Nancy said she had to go paint at Jessica's that morning Brad thought it was another "lie"?

I know that BOTH SIDES in these difficult divorces with kids do things in secret to prepare for the inevitable battles about support, custody etc. Nancy seems smart and therefore I would not put it past her to conspire with all or some of her friends to deceive Brad about her preparations. She had a significant amount of cash in her purse, right? What if she was preparing to "run" or at least leave Brad the following Monday while Brad was at work? If he found out, he might have gone right over the edge. Nancy's friends sure seemed on edge and uncommonly concerned about her welfare - why? MAYBE because they KNEW she was preparing to leave Brad and things might get bad if he found out?

My Opinion

I just posted to this point as well. Glad I am not the only one.

 

[Just the Fax]

What are your accounts? Not only do you know nothing of who they REALLY were... you go by what her family and friends have said about him... so I will add some others that have said this about NC.

She has a 1200 dollar purse... 200 dollar jeans...8000 dollar paintings.... 200 pedicures. BMW x5... sure looks like showing off to me as well. Please to say because he had some web pages where he blogs or documents his accomplishments is NOTHING many others don't do.

Well, I guess we are even then.
You don't know either one.
I tend to believe sworn affidavits over gossip and speculation.

 

[d99gr81]

Yea, maybe if she was meeting a boyfriend .
Go back and listen to Clea...she totally discounted that possibility when asked by Fox News.

OK I agree she said that...she also stated that she did not think Brad had anything to do with it... so how about that? You only pick and chose.

 

[MoonFlwr]

Seriously???? OK to be gentle you are one of a few with serious tunnel vision.... UM she could be having an affair..again... My ex told me she was going to the counselor alone to fix her problems that he made us aware of in our sessions ...only to find out she was seeing a lawyer and stealing my money...please if you get out of the tunnel and see out side the box ...just once...ahhh never mind its never ending.

lol! your 'Seriously????' expressed what I thought when I saw the question, too!
You said it better than me!

 

[raisincharlie]

What are your accounts? Not only do you know nothing of who they REALLY were... you go by what her family and friends have said about him... so I will add some others that have said this about NC.

She has a 1200 dollar purse... 200 dollar jeans...8000 dollar paintings.... 200 pedicures. BMW x5... sure looks like showing off to me as well. Please to say because he had some web pages where he blogs or documents his accomplishments is NOTHING many others don't do.

You still have never provided that link I asked for a long time ago about verifying that $1200 purse. I think you are confused - she bought Brad a $1200 dollar laptop case, which he wanted returned - even he admits that and with all his whinning I feel certain he would have whinned about a $1200 purse - which he did not do in his affidavit.