Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #22

[EntreNous]

I've thought a bit about this too, and agree on the surface it might not look right, but to some extent, won't he get dinged either way? If he were to campaign / offer reward / go on TV and say he will fight for justice... won't people just say he's being disingenuous, and trying to "trick" everyone (ie, pull an "OJ"). [ Similar reaction when K&B posted up their web site ]

If it were me, and I was innocent, I suppose I wouldn't care what everyone thought, and I'd do it (search, go on TV, offer an award, go vigilante, whatever)... anyway, who knows what his attorneys have advised him... who knows EXACTLY how any of us would deal with this exact situation.

Bottom line, it's hard (for me anyway) to pass too much judgment on this particular front.

Not if he's being sincere.

Trust me, something happens to your spouse and I don't care how private you are, you start acting hinky and people are going to pick up on it.

 

[jumpstreet]

It's only been several weeks in BC's case so I understand to an extent but is this case going to drag out for an eternity like the JY case has??? Should everyone just sit back and wait for BC's to wallow around in freedom for the next few years while Willoughby deals with his perfectionism?

I've said it before, that either the forensics yield a slam-dunk, in which case look for a prompt arrest sometime next week (post GJ on Monday and pre-Sep 2nd).. OR... we might as well make ourselves comfortable here...

 

[raisincharlie]

I've said it before, that either the forensics yield a slam-dunk, in which case look for a prompt arrest sometime next week (post GJ on Monday and pre-Sep 2nd).. OR... we better start make ourselves comfortable here...

There is no such thing as a slam dunk when it comes to a trial.

 

[momto3kids]

Never :crazy:

Mom, I have little doubt that LE did know something was up very early on. Did you see my note that Bazemore confirmed that both cars were looked at by LE on that very Saturday ? Bet they smelled a clean car too.

I just know when someone scrubs their home it smells it, at least to me. BC house has all hardwoods downstairs except for the family room from what I know. So not too much vacuming, but mopping.

I believe when one enters the home a just cleaned fresh home was noticed, not to mention a BMW.:crazy:

 

[Roy23]

Again, I won't elaborate....just he didn't go to check on NC.

I am not asking you to elaborate. I am asking if Brad went to LTF for an absolute fact and what do we know that is not rumor? Anybody?

 

[EntreNous]

I've said it before, that either the forensics yield a slam-dunk, in which case look for a prompt arrest sometime next week (post GJ on Monday and pre-Sep 2nd).. OR... we might as well make ourselves comfortable here...

Well, that would certainly be a shame because if Brad Cooper did murder his wife he doesn't deserve that freedom.

 

[mahmoo]

What I can't get past is that she had plans with JA for 8am to paint. I can't see why she would go running at 7am if she was to be at JA's at 8am. I mean I suppose it's not impossible to do so, but it just doesn't feel' right and that's as specific as I can be.

That's always been a big sticking point with me as well........just doesn't gel.

 

[EntreNous]

I am not asking you to elaborate. I am asking if Brad went to LTF for an absolute fact and what do we know that is not rumor? Anybody?

A very reliable source Roy. I don't think she can get it notarized for you.:crazy:

 

[SleuthyGal]

I've thought a bit about this too, and agree on the surface it might not look right, but to some extent, won't he get dinged either way? If he were to campaign / offer reward / go on TV and say he will fight for justice... won't people just say he's being disingenuous, and trying to "trick" everyone (ie, pull an "OJ"). [ Similar reaction when K&B posted up their web site ]

If it were me, and I was innocent, I suppose I wouldn't care what everyone thought, and I'd do it (search, go on TV, offer an award, go vigilante, whatever)... anyway, who knows what his attorneys have advised him... who knows EXACTLY how any of us would deal with this exact situation.

Bottom line, it's hard (for me anyway) to pass too much judgment on this particular front.

I've watched the reaction of the people around him. He is part of a very caring community. The fact that NO ONE is showing up on his doorstep with casserole in hand, NONE of their friends (other than S.H.) is speaking with him, let alone consoling him. Nancy's parents want nothing to do with him. He's not calling L.E. and asking for updates on the investigation to find Nancy's killer. Forget all the high profile stuff that some people do. Just little acts that are caring things. He's persona non grata now. And no, I don't think it's *just* the fact that they were headed towards divorce.

The community does NOT appear to be supporting Brad. There's no reward being offered for the killer(s)...not offered by ANYONE, including Nancy's family, friends, Cisco...NO ONE.

Now that doesn't mean a person is guilty if the community isn't supportive of them, but it's a clue as to what people think and the environment.

Brad is more concerned with getting receipts from HT (and probably learning what video they have on him) than in helping to catch the 'real killer' of his wife. Again, that doesn't mean he's guilty, but it does give one pause. And yes, Mom, no obituary in the paper! And I sincerely doubt he had any memorial service for NC. He's not sorry she's dead...he's just sorry that the spotlight is on him for it.

Now I worry that there won't be enough evidence for super-careful-DA Willoughby to ever take this to trial. Yes, I'm concerned. He seems very hesitant to prosecute and you know what? Not ALL cases are 'slam dunks.' Sometimes you do have to take a little risk in order to get justice.

 

[Roy23]

What concerns me is Willoughby in all this. JY is walking around scott free with extremely damning SW's that you'd think would be enough to put this guy away for a very long time. In the meantime JY has enjoyed several additional months of freedom. Why? So Willoughby's ego will remain pristine?

It's only been several weeks in BC's case so I understand to an extent but is this case going to drag out for an eternity like the JY case has??? Should everyone just sit back and wait for BC's to wallow around in freedom for the next few years while Willoughby deals with his perfectionism?

The JY case is not even close to an open and shut case. The shoes he bought were similar, but not exact. Heck yeah he is guilty but a whole lot of wiggle room to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. It stinks.

 

[raisincharlie]

I just know when someone scrubs their home it smells it, at least to me. BC house has all hardwoods downstairs except for the family room from what I know. So not too much vacuming, but mopping.

I believe when one enters the home a just cleaned fresh home was noticed, not to mention a BMW.:crazy:

Would take some serious scrubbing the carpeting in the BMW. If he scrubbed it - LE would have noted it Saturday when they checked both cars- can you say dead give away?

 

[momto3kids]

A very reliable source Roy. I don't think she can get it notarized for you.:crazy:

Roy...BC put it in his affidavit.

 

[jumpstreet]

There is no such thing as a slam dunk when it comes to a trial.

By "slam-dunk", I meant enough to at least convince the DA to bring it to GJ. My prediction is that if that doesn't happen next week (assuming the forensics will be back next week (if they aren't already back), and I'm basing that on the 2 week extension on the SW sealing) it won't happen anytime soon

Agreed, for the trial part, of course anything (and I mean anything) can happen.
If indicted, would you predict a request for change-of-venue?

 

[momto3kids]

Would take some serious scrubbing the carpeting in the BMW. If he scrubbed it - LE would have noted it Saturday when they checked both cars- can you say dead give away?

DEAD :thumb:.

 

[Roy23]

A very reliable source Roy. I don't think she can get it notarized for you.:crazy:

So in a nutshell, again no proof of LTF at all. This doesn't get it done for me although it may be 100% correct. I want to deal with proven facts. I will watch this from the sidelines until this all comes out. I am not used to one insider having more information than the bloodsucking media.

 

[SleuthyGal]

I am not asking you to elaborate. I am asking if Brad went to LTF for an absolute fact and what do we know that is not rumor? Anybody?

Roy, LE has not commented on any aspect of this case or its details past the statement that this is an isolated incident and not a random crime. And no other organization involved (be it HT or LTF or anyone else) has publicly commented on any aspect of this case. Ditto any organization that was served with a SW, except for the generic statement from Cisco that they are cooperating with LE/SW request.

 

[jumpstreet]

Now I worry that there won't be enough evidence for super-careful-DA Willoughby to ever take this to trial. Yes, I'm concerned. He seems very hesitant to prosecute and you know what? Not ALL cases are 'slam dunks.' Sometimes you do have to take a little risk in order to get justice.

If in doubt, DA has to err on the side of avoiding an OJ situation (he walks), or worse, Duke Lacrosse situation. At least (and it's probably a good thing) - Wake DA is the anti-Nifong.

 

[mahmoo]

Post of the day.

I'm nominating that baby for post of the month!!!!

 

[raisincharlie]

By "slam-dunk", I meant enough to at least convince the DA to bring it to GJ. My prediction is that if that doesn't happen next week (assuming the forensics will be back next week (if they aren't already back), and I'm basing that on the 2 week extension on the SW sealing) it won't happen anytime soon

Agreed, for the trial part, of course anything (and I mean anything) can happen.
If indicted, would you predict a request for change-of-venue?

Don't know why you think the foresnics would be back next week - 60 days is 60 days and its not there yet. You've seen the warrants on Jason Young yes ? If what they have on that guy isn't enough to motivate Mr. Willoughby, I seriously wonder what it would take - a stick of dynamite perhaps to get him out of his office and into a courtroom ?

I have no doubt there will be a request for a change of venue but I have serious doubts it will be granted. LE has been very careful, no leaks, no evidence released, not even a COD has slipped out. I don't see a change of venue being granted.

 

[jumpstreet]

He's not calling L.E. and asking for updates on the investigation to find Nancy's killer.

Thanks SG. Agree with the gist of your post. For the above though - is it a known fact (if so, reliable source?) - or just speculation?