Nancy Grace - 10/13/08 Monday

[Janis396]

Hmmm...I am torn now. I trust David L. almost as much as I do Tim.

I am not going to identify the name of the organization involved, as they should not be judged by the actions of a single person; however, I will say that Tim told me that there are suspicions regarding the origin of that dress and how it ended up in the swamp.

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/caylee-anthony.html

If you click on the link within that link, it says Picture #3 shows Caylee wearing the identical dress that was found. It's the one of her with the Mickey Mouse ears, where she looks to be about 18 months old.

 

[achristmas1]

I agree with Leonard but I don't think she used the shovel to fish her out of the pool altho she may have tried to get the body up to the top with it so that she didn't have to get wet but I think after she thought better of the pretend drowning she then tried to use the shovel to bury the body and found out that was too difficult so she took the shovel back. She may have buried the body shallowly and then thought better of that and came back and got it.

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I think there was a shovel from GA's shed that was not recovered (or maybe recovered yesterday) that she used to bury Caylee in the yard, but that GA put a lock on the shed the next day or she had taken the shovel and forgot to bring it back, so she borrowed the neighbors shovel to move the body from the backyard to the car.

 

[Boston]

In my opinion LE must have a very signficant piece of evidence if they are expecting a desicion from the Grand Jury tomorrow on whether or not to indict Casey.

Some GJ's hear evidence for weeks before making a decision

If LE is expecting an indictment after only 1 day of testimony then maybe they have a "Smoking Gun"

 

[RR0004]

Shelbar, you should get the gold star for the thread. Thanks much for posting this....although it does invite more questions than it answers. For example, if the group wasn't affilated with TES, why was Tim upset?

It's just gets weirder....

Well...I'll go back to what Blink posted earlier...for me this feels like "planted evidence". Nothing smells right about this.

 

[jademonkey]

I think his "rationalization" was that she used the shovel so that Casey herself didn't get wet. Still, I think that would have been difficult to do without either scraping the side of the pool and maybe tearing the liner, etc, also it would be hard to do if the pool were 5 ft deep without getting wet...and it wouldn't be hard to lift 35lbs IN the water, but imagine standing on the stairs with that shovel and wet 35lbs on the other end...Casey would have had a hard time with that, I think

Almost impossible I would say but it doesn't mean that she accomplished it that way, just maybe something she tried and then figured out it wouldn't work that way.

Maybe they can tell the shovel was in the pool and that is his theory. It might be that instead she used pool water to clean the shovel off. Didn't the neighbor say it was clean when he got it back?

 

[momtective]

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/caylee-anthony.html

BS meter just went crazy after reading this...I'm sure we can all guess who the searchers were or at least what website they were from...just another person looking for their 15 minutes of fame IMHO:waitasec:

 

[Baznme]

Forgive me if this has been asked already, I'm still in shock after hearing about the dress.

Could this dress have been actually found during the last search, which was called off abruptly, and just got DNA results back today or yesterday??????

I read they found that dress on Sunday evening. That came from the breaking news blurb from the NG site.

 

[jmommy]

Also if it was "Disney Brand" I totally believe it, the one I was speaking of that is a size 6 that my 3.5 year old has is Disney Princesses..and it fits..how freakin' odd that NG just said that.

Yep it all depends of the Brand of clothing. And those Disney dresses run small!

 

[cheko1]

Cindy will "never speak to Tim again"!!!

In all sincerity, Tim is a very lucky man if CA never speaks to him again! WTH???

 

[RhondaIL]

Shelbar, you should get the gold star for the thread. Thanks much for posting this....although it does invite more questions than it answers. For example, if the group wasn't affilated with TES, why was Tim upset?

It's just gets weirder....

Shelbar's link http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/caylee-anthony.html says the dress is identical to pic #3 at this link http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17399904/detail.html

If the dress found is supposed to be the same dress in pic 3, it cannot be a size 6. Caylee does not even look 2 years old in that pic.

 

[okiedokietoo]

Well...I'll go back to what Blink posted earlier...for me this feels like "planted evidence". Nothing smells right about this.

well LE wouldn't have planted it - so who does that leave?

 

[Angel Who Cares]

My heart is breaking again. I am going through photos of Caylee to try to find a dress that fits that description and all I want to do is cry. How could KC harm this innocent, beutiful child. I want to know the lesson we must learn by this and I think it is maybe, how much a child is abused and killed everyday. I think we are all obsessed with this case but once this is over we must our energy into helping other abused, neglected and children that are murdered. And it is awful but I believe the statistics say that most abuse is by either a parent or a relative. We need to make a Caylee fund to save other children. That is what I want to do and have learned from this heart wrenching case.
God Bless All Children

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

 

[Mendara]

As the World Turns!

This guys blog has been posted here before, seemed to be respected...take a look at THIS!




http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/caylee-anthony.html

David Lohr can be trusted 100% he has been around a long time and he is not bias - he would not spew lies.

 

[RR0004]

Hmmm...I am torn now. I trust David L. almost as much as I do Tim.

I am not going to identify the name of the organization involved, as they should not be judged by the actions of a single person; however, I will say that Tim told me that there are suspicions regarding the origin of that dress and how it ended up in the swamp.

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/caylee-anthony.html

Exactly...

 

[Mendara]

well LE wouldn't have planted it - so who does that leave?

An obsessed searcher?

 

[Brini]

How long ago was this dress found, anyone know?

Unless Caylee was in this dress I guess I just don't see why an article of clothing should be of such interest?

I mean I understand that articles of Caylee's are found in places that she has no business being, but I can't link that to that's where her body was dumped. Casey could have just planted a bunch of Caylee's stuff here, there and everywhere to throw suspicion to others...why should this dress be such an important find.

One last thing, I like this TM..but quite frankly why does he keep changing his mind and further more why does he need CA to participate? The Anthony's should not have any right to tell anyone what type of search and by whom should be done ..why is this going on?

Because maybe the dress smelled of cadaverine.

SO many pieces of clothing were found,, that stuff is just lying around. But, this is the ONLY piece that LE sent in? Think about it.

 

[strach304]

Maybe there were pics of Caylee wearing a similar dress in the hundreds of pics that KC deleted right before her first arrest.

Wow!!! That is such a good point and great possibility. I wanted to smack myself in the head when I read your post.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

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See, I'm asking similar questions: I admire Tim also .. but why does he keep coming back and then leaving? Last time he promised to come and STAY until Caylee was found ... now he's leaving again.

I too, don't know why he needs CINDY'S approval to look, he should just bypass that and look anyway. Unless it's for financial reasons and they just don't have the means to keep going.

About the dress, funny it shows up night before GJ ... it could have been planted, or maybe it has real connection here, just looking at things from a different perspective.

I don't think this information was supposed to have been released.

 

[Janis396]

well LE wouldn't have planted it - so who does that leave?

An A family sympathizer.

 

[curiositycat]

http://www.missingkids.com/missingk...NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US


Caylee 37 inches, 35 lbs, that's about average for her age. My daughter was about the same size at that age, had a closet full of dresses too, and I guarantee none were a size 6.

I'm not saying it's impossible, I do hope this find is an important clue. Just saying I am really skeptical about a size 6 fitting such a little girl...:waitasec:

I was looking at the T-shirt back in the pics of KC entering for her HCO visit. I was surprised to see that on that it listed Caylee's weight as 40 lbs. If I was reading it correctly. I know my youngest grandson at 3 weigh 38lbs. He was average size. He wore a 4 or 5 depending on where I bought the clothes from.