Nancy Grace 9-30-08

[Busylady]

Pretty much constant contact from 6/15 17:08:00 - 6/16 1:54:41 then a break until 2:57:01 then last contact was 3:22:49 until 11:47:30 am. Also there was no cell phone activity 6/15 from 15:46 - 17:08 so I am wondering if the fight happened then because its not like Casey to go an hour without cell phone use.

IIRC Busylady, wasn't that the night she talked to him for like 80m minutes or something like that?

 

[Jigglebug's Mom]

Sorry, I misread your post. Tony isn't changing his story. I still don't have a good feeling about him or roommates.

 

[Lovejac]

Back to the video of Caylee with great grandpa --- did you all notice what he was singing? "Your Are My Sunshine" ----- "please don't take my sunshine away" --- how sad is that???

I definitely teared up on that one. She was the Sunshine to many people, unfortunately not to her own mother.:furious:

 

[MD MOMMY]

Right,
There's no way he would say "white shorts and a blue top" because he knows everyone has seen the video.

I'm wondering if Cindy or Casey changed Caylee into PJ's after the nursing home & before this big fight.

Again, I wish we knew what time the argument happened.

Can you imagine this big fight going on with Cindy almost choking Casey unconscious with Caylee in the house?

If she were sleeping I'm sure the fight woke her up.

Or KC woke her up..she wasn't about to leave her "pawn" behind when she hauled butt out of that house. Caylee was probably in PJ's I would bet. How far is Mt. Dora from Orlando? Also the nurse in her statement was confused. She said that she worked 3-11pm until the investigator says he has her down for 12 hours that day and she concedes and says it could have been around lunchtime and NOT dinner time that she saw Caylee. I doubt they were at the nursing home until 4pm or 5pm. The video of Caylee was taken a few minutes after 12:00 pm. I read SP's interview and it doesn't state a time CA and Caylee left that I could find.

 

[Lovejac]

Pretty much constant contact from 6/15 17:08:00 - 6/16 1:54:41 then a break until 2:57:01 then last contact was 3:22:49 until 11:47:30 am. Also there was no cell phone activity 6/15 from 15:46 - 17:08 so I am wondering if the fight happened then because its not like Casey to go an hour without cell phone use.

Hmmmm, very interesting. Think I need to go back to that thread and read a little more. Thanks for the info!:blowkiss::blowkiss:

 

[Recovering-Lurker]

I think we are narrowing down the timeline.

1. Big argument on 6/15 between KC and her mom after the Mt. Dora visit. KC says Cindy choked her- is she telling the truth?
2. 6/15 was the last known sighting of Caylee alive. Did KC leave the house and did she take Caylee with her?
3. Tony claims KC spent that night with him without Caylee- is he telling the truth?
4. George claims she saw KC and Caylee the next afternoon- is he telling the truth? If not, is it an obvious lie or is he just confusing 6/16 with some other day?
5. Is it possible KC killed Caylee after the fight on June 15?

Tony did not say Casey spent the night with him.

 

[Oakley]

Ok going back through my notes on KC's phone records:

Sunday 6/16
last call 15:46 or 3:46PM
no more calls until
17:05 or 5:05PM
then another break until
19:06 or 7:06

so you have 2 breaks - one 3"46 to 5:05 just a little over an hour
and
5:05 to 7:06 a break of 2 hours (this is when I think the fight happened)

George was not a home - he works 3 to 11 so only people there were CA, KC and Caylee

Now the calls continue from 7:06 PM up until 7/16 Monday at 3:22AM
then all calls stop again until

7:45 AM which is almost a four hour break.

Now another poster said that 7:45AM call was incoming to KC's phone and came from the house - so obviously KC was not at home.

I think during that 4 hour break was either when the deed was done or it was already done and she was trying to figure out what to do and finally just put her in the trunk.

As for how - well KC had been physically assualted and per LP was "freaked out" - and poor lil Caylee was probably tired and whiney and crying alot so she either could have strangled her (like CA tried to do to her) or Caylee was crying and screaming while KC was on the phone and she freaked and just started hitting Caylee in the head with the phone - IMO I believe that was more likely the case and why nobody wants the body found - can't fix a fractured skull. That would also explain why the hair was in the trunk - head wound hair loss.
I started researching the ping locations but that takes quite a bit of time. I also started gathering who matches which numbers. Haven't gotten back to it lately - been busy with my life - lol.
Hope this helps.

Someone pointed out the overlooked laceration behind the ear (was it ZG in the supposed accident in Tampa?) could actually have been an injury Caylee received that KC was using as fodder for her tale to mom?

 

[Lovejac]

Her name is Michelle Bart and she is a friend/PA for the A's. I guess the is going to post all the comments tomorrow. SHe is linked to that hope foundation in cali.

Well, that explains a lot. Should be interesting reading to say the least!

 

[LinasK]

Well you certainly know your food shows!

I've seen both- Iron Chef Japan and Iron Chef America, I prefer Iron Chef America!

 

[Pink Panther]

I've seen both- Iron Chef Japan and Iron Chef America, I prefer Iron Chef America!

Food is good!

 

[Lexington]

If she went swimming before the fight, then there is no relevance, however, if she went swimming after the fight, then it means Casey did not leave with Caylee. But as one who lives here in FL...and seeing the type of pool they have with no screen and doesn't look like there are any lights...swimming at night is not an option...you'd be bit up to death

I never believed that story either. I think CA brought that up so she could go into her story about the ladder being returned to the pool after she had put it away in order to bring in the possibility that Caylee might have drowned accidentally. NOT.

 

[Pink Panther]

Hmmmm, very interesting. Think I need to go back to that thread and read a little more. Thanks for the info!:blowkiss::blowkiss:

Well let's hope that she's open and fair and also mentions our ALIVE thread!

 

[Boston]

If it was really Tony that posted that....his story is changing? ......hmmm.....tends to make me wonder. I am just not sure about Tony and his roommates. Now, I am not defending Casey, but my gut feeling is that there is more to Tony and his roommates then everyone knows. I don't know what it is but I saw an interview they had with Greata waaay back and even at that time I had an uneasy feeling about them. Now I don't have a gut feeling that they were involved in Caylee's disappearance but my gut just tells me there is something......JMO.

Who's They?

Tony or Clint?

 

[sha-sha]

According to George's interview, he worked 3 to 11 that day. Maybe they celebrated with him earlier? Probably not though!

I doubt it too. Poor pitiful George. (no sarcasm)

 

[TxLady2]

LP says that Cindy "put her hands around Casey's throat & tried to choke her"

On the night she left.....Was this supposed to be the 16th or 15th?

I thought GA saw Casey & Caylee leave the morning of the 16th?

Did anyone hear LP give a date

He comes up with something new every night to keep himself on TV

Excuse me... isn't that what a lot of posters here have figured out? That Casey and Cindy fought on June 15th over the money Casey had stolen, and she left that night with Caylee? George may not have seen Casey the next day. But anyway... lot of posters believe this, it's not just LP making it up.
Apparently, he is ASKED to appear every night... NG seems to like him. So do I. He knows more than most of us here do... he was there for 9 or 10 days and witnessed the Anthonys first hand.

 

[Lexington]

Yes there is Lexington, there is a thread titled 'Casey's cell phone pings and records'. check it out, there is some great info on there.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70666

Thanks for the info. I read quite a number of pages having to do with phone info, I guess I just missed these. Will go through all of them again.

 

[sha-sha]

But the cell phone pings do not put Casey at Tony's on the night of the 15th.

Ah Ha! Bingo! So does that mean Clint is lying?

 

[Leila]

I haven't posted before but have been here forever. I have always felt that all it would have taken to send Casey over the edge after the fight with her mother was for Caylee to say she wanted her Gramma. There seems to have been a terrible power struggle going on with Casey using Caylee to get what she wanted and Cindy giving in to keep Caylee there and safe. Any child (even at only 2) would want to stay where they were loved, felt safe, and had all of their own things. We all saw her room on Greta, and Cindy certainly loved that child. She had everything under the sun. I'm sure Casey felt Caylee was the new "princess" and didn't like it at all.

Such a sad family situation.

Welcome Suejay!

 

[Boston]

Excuse me... isn't that what a lot of posters here have figured out? That Casey and Cindy fought on June 15th over the money Casey had stolen, and she left that night with Caylee? George may not have seen Casey the next day. But anyway... lot of posters believe this, it's not just LP making it up.
Apparently, he is ASKED to appear every night... NG seems to like him. So do I. He knows more than most of us here do... he was there for 9 or 10 days and witnessed the Anthonys first hand.

Thats your opinion right?

 

[Boston]

Excuse me... isn't that what a lot of posters here have figured out? That Casey and Cindy fought on June 15th over the money Casey had stolen, and she left that night with Caylee? George may not have seen Casey the next day. But anyway... lot of posters believe this, it's not just LP making it up.
Apparently, he is ASKED to appear every night... NG seems to like him. So do I. He knows more than most of us here do... he was there for 9 or 10 days and witnessed the Anthonys first hand.

Speak for yourself