NC NC - Faith Hedgepeth, 19, UNC student, Chapel Hill, 7 Sept 2012 #1

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ETJ has been arrested, for speeding (in 2013) and drug paraphenelia (in 2012):

http://www.crimeincharlotte.com/mecklenburg-county-arrests-12-28-2013/#.VBjcL0vP50s (December, 2013 in Charlotte)
http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/North-Carolina/Orange-County-NC/Eriq-Takoy-Jones.65963208.html (April, 2012 at East Gate Shopping Mall, Chapel Hill)

Oh, and he also was listed as incarcerated in Durham County on 5/4/2014:
"Fail to Stop Steady Red Light and Possession of Marijuana up to r OZ"

http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/North-Carolina/Durham-County-NC/Eriq-Takoy-Jones.72576926.html
Excuse the snark....Lord Jones, as he seems to like to be called, is a rapper wannabee per a quick Google search,but, honestly pot and speeding aren't a quick jump to murder like this for me. If not for his RO and general bad swagger, he doesn't seem all that more likely than the law school boys. I'm not so sold on him anymore unless he'd been doing Jager bombs all night too and/or lots of stuff he hasn't been caught for?

I feel like the more I learn, the curiouser and curiouser it gets.

(not sure of his official status at this point, legally. Bessie, can we sleuth him? Sorry of this is off limits and needs to be snipped)

Off to read "gaspo"....
 
Oh, I agree that pot and speeding aren't close to murder. The situation for African-American men may be very different from the situation my friends and I found ourselves in, but when someone I knew in college was to the point of being arrested, what they were arrested for was about 1/1000th of what they were involved in. That said, I agree, he hardly has a rap sheet that screams "killer". But what do you think about JB who threatened to shoot his stepfather in the face and drove from Ohio to NC, presumably having made threats of violence once here? Nothing came to pass, but seems he has some impulse control problems.

ETA: His raps sheet hardly screams "murder" except for that little part about domestic violence/having a protective order/breaking down the door to get to his ex-girlfriend/shoving her onto the floor, etc. That part does sort of scream potential murderer. Just sayin'.
 
I was thinking that maybe ETJ's cousin (who was with FE and KR at The Thrill, according to case notes) mentioned that they were out at the club dancing with guys. It's also said that KR was "sick" (I read, had a lot to drink) and had to leave The Thrill. Maybe after getting a report from his cousin, ETJ got angrier and angrier and decided to go over for a confrontation, without the idea of actually killing someone. Maybe getting there and hearing that KR was not in the apartment (and making the inference that she was off with a guy) made him fly into a jealous rage that caused him to take it off on FH, whom he already resented.
 
All indications I've seen from released documents are that Faith was not drunk nor drugged, and put up a HUGE struggle -- yet there were few disturbance reports, that I'm aware of, from neighbors etc. -- which makes one think that two or more individuals may have been involved, in order to keep Faith's struggles that quiet (perhaps one large male could control one petite female sufficiently, but I'm skeptical). And the notion of multiple perps again brings me back to the 5 or so males at the Thrill who apparently interacted with Faith that night (the proximity of being around a group of attentive males at that hour of the morning in a drinking/partying atmosphere, and phone messages going back-and-forth to one of those individuals, and then shortly thereafter being raped?/murdered just seems likely more than coincidence). Possibly, the intention was only to rape or 'teach her a lesson' of some sort, but she fought so hard, and things got so out-of-hand, they ended up killing her (in their own drunken stupor perhaps)? -- difficult to fathom what possibly could've been a motive for going there with a singular intent of murder??? (even though motive is ascribed to the ex-bf ETJ). Also wonder if others haven't been scared into silence by threats to themselves or family members (difficult to imagine others don't know more than they've told, and LE seems to be banking on someone breaking their silence).
Maybe the Oct. 1 release of more information will connect more dots, or at least clarify the dots we have….
 
Oh, I agree that pot and speeding aren't close to murder. The situation for African-American men may be very different from the situation my friends and I found ourselves in, but when someone I knew in college was to the point of being arrested, what they were arrested for was about 1/1000th of what they were involved in. That said, I agree, he hardly has a rap sheet that screams "killer". But what do you think about JB who threatened to shoot his stepfather in the face and drove from Ohio to NC, presumably having made threats of violence once here? Nothing came to pass, but seems he has some impulse control problems.

ETA: His raps sheet hardly screams "murder" except for that little part about domestic violence/having a protective order/breaking down the door to get to his ex-girlfriend/shoving her onto the floor, etc. That part does sort of scream potential murderer. Just sayin'.


Yeah, I agree and have seen that first hand too re: what you actually get busted for vs what you are actually doing. And, after I wrote that about Jager bombs I thought "well, that isn't unlikely now either is it?" College kid with a temper, fueled with a night of alcohol---and as Webthrush says---maybe a little anger gets way out of hand when Faith fights back. I could see that.

I thought the JB thing was interesting too---it must have been serious enough for a local cop to call another local cop about but I am truly confused about JB and JM (? his roomie) overall. I can't keep straight who was at the complex, who picked up KR, which one was her intended booty call and if there is any evidence either went back to the apartment where Faith was. If KR and JM (? what is his last initial??) knew JB dropped her off and left again, or JB was the one home and left so the other two could be alone (see how I mix them up?) that is a whole 'nother level of silence than I was thinking. I think KR has a very good idea of what happened, but I think she doesn't know for absolute sure and that maybe allows her a little sleep at night. If JB wasn't at the apartment with KR (either "with with" her or just there because he lived there) that just is a lot bigger conspiracy of silence than I expected. Yikes! Do we know anything about his whereabouts that night?

BTW, read the "gaspo" blog---super glad I did---you all are right---VERY interesting stuff and he does clearly have inside sources etc.
 
Y'all should listen to the 911 call. You can get it from the CHPD PIO. It seems off. I could tell that KR saying her name was redacted in several spots (911 kept asking her multiple times), but not sure how much more was omitted. I found it very interesting.
 
Y'all should listen to the 911 call. You can get it from the CHPD PIO. It seems off. I could tell that KR saying her name was redacted in several spots (911 kept asking her multiple times), but not sure how much more was omitted. I found it very interesting.
Do you have a link? Where can I find the audio? Thanks!!
 
None of them, it's a different guy. I think the guy from Greensboro is someone that had been texting Faith in days prior.

Yes... it turns out that this was all in one of the earlier articles about the case. I somehow over looked it. As another poster said, it was JRL, who had been texting her in previous days. Another poster also correctly mentioned that his person was friends with Wells, with whom he was caught B&E in Raleigh in 2009.

I could sort of slap my forehead for not re-reading the below article earlier. It would have saved me a lot of extraneous sleuthing while reading the most recent document release:

"The most notable connection with the victim is ETJ, who lived in the same apartment complex as Hedgepeth, a few buildings away from where she was found murdered...JB of 103 West Longview Street in Chapel Hill was also questioned six months after the murder took place. A warrant shows that a cell tower search conducted early in the investigation connected an incident report to Beatley’s phone number....Another person of interest included RLJ, II who was living in Greensboro in November 2012 when investigators attempted to contact him..."

http://chapelboro.com/news/crime/persons-interest-listed-hedgepeth-murder-investigation-documents/
 
Yes... it turns out that this was all in one of the earlier articles about the case. I somehow over looked it. As another poster said, it was JRL, who had been texting her in previous days. Another poster also correctly mentioned that his person was friends with Wells, with whom he was caught B&E in Raleigh in 2009.

I could sort of slap my forehead for not re-reading the below article earlier. It would have saved me a lot of extraneous sleuthing while reading the most recent document release:

"The most notable connection with the victim is ETJ, who lived in the same apartment complex as Hedgepeth, a few buildings away from where she was found murdered...JB of 103 West Longview Street in Chapel Hill was also questioned six months after the murder took place. A warrant shows that a cell tower search conducted early in the investigation connected an incident report to Beatley’s phone number....Another person of interest included RLJ, II who was living in Greensboro in November 2012 when investigators attempted to contact him..."

http://chapelboro.com/news/crime/persons-interest-listed-hedgepeth-murder-investigation-documents/
I really do feel like we've fallen down the rabbit hole now. It seemed so simple. So wrong on that.

How did Faith know him?

The article also mentions hundreds of DNA samples. I can believe that but it's surely not quantity but quality in this case---did they ever get this guy's DNA or the ex's?

Argh.
 
I was thinking that maybe ETJ's cousin (who was with FE and KR at The Thrill, according to case notes)....

Skigirl (or anyone else who can answer it), which one is ETJ's cousin??? (I've missed that relation, though I think I know all who were at the Thrill)
 
I really do feel like we've fallen down the rabbit hole now. It seemed so simple. So wrong on that.

How did Faith know him?

The article also mentions hundreds of DNA samples. I can believe that but it's surely not quantity but quality in this case---did they ever get this guy's DNA or the ex's?

Argh.

I know -- on all counts. I mean, a guy who lives in the same complex tells someone he wants to kill her, has a history of violence against her roommate (plus a restraining order, plus he knows the apt. well since he used to live there, plus he bashed in the door a couple months earlier), tweets that he's sorry for what he's about to do, and asks to be forgiven on FB the day after her murder, there's DNA at the scene...and there are still other, equally good suspects?

Here's some interesting stuff:
http://abc11.com/archive/8904482/
"...the ex-boyfriend of Hedgepeth's roommate, sent this tweet to local news stations, saying: 'TJ's name is clear'..."

http://abclocal.go.com/story?section=news/local&id=8802242
"'I'll be honest with you, whoever did this deserves to burn,' said TJ.

J. once roomed with Hedgepeth along with his ex-girlfriend in the very apartment where police said Hedgepeth was found dead.

'Just like any other neighbor out there, I walked out there concerned,' said J.

J., who still lives in the Hawthorne at the View complex, said he learned about the scene from his stepfather and stepped outside to see it for himself.

'I seen all the police out there at the apartment,' said J. 'So, finally I got in my truck and I was going to leave... just take a peek around the corner and I seen crime scene tape all over the place.'"

Does he protest too much?
 
Skigirl (or anyone else who can answer it), which one is ETJ's cousin??? (I've missed that relation, though I think I know all who were at the Thrill)

I'll try to refind it. I feel like info is harder than usual to find and keep straight in this case. It may be in the last set of document releases?
 
It's not linkable. But contact the CHPD (the main #) and request the audio. They'll arrange it with you.

When you request it, do they ask you not to put it online? It seems so weird that nobody has posted it after all this time, given what happens in other cases in NC (Eve Carson, the student UNC student who was drunk and called 911 from the highway and was subsequently shot by police, Nancy Cooper, Anna Smith, just to name a few). So few seem to post any of the source documents in this case. Three hundred pages were released a couple weeks ago, and I've only been able to find 120 or so pages. It's almost like the police are releasing documents and there is some sort of understanding that nothing else is going to be released if all of it is made widely available.
 
When you request it, do they ask you not to put it online? It seems so weird that nobody has posted it after all this time, given what happens in other cases in NC (Eve Carson, the student UNC student who was drunk and called 911 from the highway and was subsequently shot by police, Nancy Cooper, Anna Smith, just to name a few). So few seem to post any of the source documents in this case. Three hundred pages were released a couple weeks ago, and I've only been able to find 120 or so pages. It's almost like the police are releasing documents and there is some sort of understanding that nothing else is going to be released if all of it is made widely available.

He said it's public info and can be shared. I just don't have a way to do so. He said the documents are available via the clerk of superior court, including the autopsy report. I assume one would have to go there to get them, but really don't know as I didn't pursue that at the time. (Now that I think of it, I'm not sure which county's clerk would have the records, Orange or Durham.)

But the call was what I was most interested in. If anyone follows Statement Analysis, I think they would find it interesting, also. I don't think I can say more in this forum. Let's just say I found it very hinky. JMO.
 
I know -- on all counts. I mean, a guy who lives in the same complex tells someone he wants to kill her, has a history of violence against her roommate (plus a restraining order, plus he knows the apt. well since he used to live there, plus he bashed in the door a couple months earlier), tweets that he's sorry for what he's about to do, and asks to be forgiven on FB the day after her murder, there's DNA at the scene...and there are still other, equally good suspects?

This is the part that scares me!
 
Apologies in advance if this turns out all wrong(!) but am going to unload a lot of tentative conjecture here:

1) I visited the actual crime apt. complex today for first time -- partly to answer my prior question: would ex-bf ETJ have been able to observe the comings-and-goings at Faith's apt. from his separate place? -- Answer: No, he would not.
Faith (and KR's) apt is tucked away at far back-end of complex near woods. It is also unlikely any perp would just stumble upon that particular apt. (though still possible someone followed KR/FH home that night, or had been stalking for weeks prior) -- most likely scenario, as already presumed, is that perpetrator(s) already knew FH/KR, knew the location of apt., and had even been inside previously. The police have surmised from the beginning that this was a very "personal" crime, in no way a random event or stranger-rape.

2) ETJ, JB, and even RLJ all have suspicious behaviors pointing in their direction, but I believe have given DNA samples (could be mistaken) that did not match crime scene (there have been no DNA matches). ETJ, and his car, and his apt. were heavily searched early on in investigation (tremendous amount of time expended on him due to so much circumstantial evidence pointing his way), yet no definite connection found (doesn't mean he might not know more than he's told).

3) The FH/KR apt. is tucked away in a manner that might've allowed a major disturbance to go unnoticed by the wider complex, but I still think an immediate neighbor, below or to the side, (IF those apts. were occupied at time) would've heard something disturbing -- only one person so far as I'm aware ever reported any unusual noise. All indications are that the assault on FH was prolonged and she struggled VERY mightilly (and was NOT drunk or drugged) -- leading me to surmise one perpetrator could not have carried it out (and kept the noise-level that muffled), and that 2 or even 3 male perps were involved holding control over FH while she fought.

4) And I have names attached to those 2-3 perps, but it relates to how people were divided up into the cars going to and coming from the Thrill late that night -- I think I have that figured out, but there's room for error (and there's still one individual I'm uncertain of -- "unknown roommate" in the documents). I've said before that I think the timing of the early-morning partying at a nightclub with a group of imbibing males, and subsequent series of phone calls all shortly before the crime, is likely more than coincidence -- I don't believe murder was the criminal plan, but a result of sudden impulse/rage (fairly easy to dream up scenarios). (...Having said all that, the possibility remains, however slim, that NONE of the men highlighted in released documents are the killer.)


Further, in my own mind, I have possible explanations for the several phone calls/messages preceding the crime, and for the cryptic paperbag note, but won't even venture there right now, as I'm already piling conjecture on top of conjecture.
Also, am baffled why there has been no mention of fingerprint matches yet… there must've been fingerprints galore at that crime scene (no, they don't necessarily indicate the killer, but they sure may be circumstantial evidence to point in some possible directions).
And would still like to know the ~time-of-death (perhaps someone has seen it in the autopsy?) -- am guessing it was between 4:45am and 5:30am.

Someone wrote here that there will be more information released ~October 1; I'll wait to see if any of that strengthens or weakens the scenario I now have in mind. This is the sort of tragic case, that once it gets under your skin, is hard to let go of!
 
I think there is only one person involved, a male, because of the note. The pronoun I was used in the note. It was personal to the murderer.
 
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