GUILTY NC - Jason Corbett, 39, murdered in his Wallburg home, 2 Aug 2015 #9

[stephanddoody]

Jason Corbett's older brother describes Molly and Thomas Martens as 'evil to the bone'
'There's no excuse, they are just evil and they tried to blacken my brother's name'He explained how Molly sent adoption papers to Jason's parents a week after his murder for his children Jack and Sarah and asked the family to pay ambulance fees.He said: "Even the week after my brother was killed she had the cheek to send the adoption papers to my mother and father asking them to sign them."That was continued, all stuff like that all the time. She just never stopped. She was cold and calculated."They had no more evidence after that. According to them it was a fight to the death. My brother was six foot something, if he hit you let me tell you you'd be left marked."
http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/jason-corbett-brother-martens-evil-10968154

 

[Frizby]

Ohhhhh SM FB is gone ballistic
https://www.facebook.com/mona.earnest1?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tab&pnref=friends.all

No surprise after what she put on the Fund Me page, which has since been altered. Problem is, you are dealing with someone who the more you fight with the harder they dig in their heels. Uncle Mike has always been self-righteous, he is arrogant just like TM. They believe themselves a cut above the rest, they cannot admit they were wrong, that to them is a failure and they never will admit a failure.

 

[Francesca]

No surprise after what she put on the Fund Me page, which has since been altered. Problem is, you are dealing with someone who the more you fight with the harder they dig in their heels. Uncle Mike has always been self-righteous, he is arrogant just like TM. They believe themselves a cut above the rest, they cannot admit they were wrong, that to them is a failure and they never will admit a failure.

Well, now Tom's in his prison cell with nobody to smirk at and nobody to be impressed by his illustrious FBI career; nobody's going to relate to how he felt he was "better" than his son in law, or tut-tut with him about how those Irish boys were rowdy the night before the wedding... He's got no company except his own thoughts for the rest of his life.
Now he's in jail, nobody cares any more whether he admits he's right or wrong; he'll have plenty of thinking time and I bet he doesn't have so much bravado when he's all alone.

 

[searchinGirl]

I think you should give the "even if it was self defense" a break now, don't you think? These murderers have had their day in court. They didn't have to prove anything , they just had to tell the truth, their version of the truth didn't hold up, It wasn't credible. Most of us have heard all the facts of this case and the statements given by TM. Bearing all that in mind I think the "self defense" lie/tag should be struck from the record and not referred to.

The point being their conviction indicates malice beyond any claim of self defense. Try to keep up. So, like the jury foremen said, self defense goes off the table when you look at the injuries sustained by JC. Innocent until proven guilty means to me that I am allowed to keep an open mind until given the chance to evaluate all the facts for myself, and I think I'm a better person for it, even if you don't. IMO

 

[wildebeest]

She called her codependent dad 6 times that evening. There's no doubt she was bawling about how she was being horribly abused knowing that this would lure her stupid, codependent, enabler dad into helping her execute Jason. Molly set him up and he fell for it. That's textbook codependent enabling. When the truth is finally revealed, it will be shown that instead of forcing her into psychiatric therapy for her personality disorder, he enabled it for decades.

GunslingingGranny---btw, love your screen name!

You have succinctly stated the problem of this family. Enabling, enabling, enabling. It was the only thing they knew, their way of life. And, IMO, will probably continue, although, others will have to pick up the slack.

IMHO

 

[Grouchymom]

Thank God, but she has still left in one lie about JC strangling MC. This should also been removed. I have reported it again for that reason.

I questioned their policy on "Fundraising For Felons"

 

[robinhood]

I'm sure if daddy had taken a different approach to JC then it could have resulted in a different outcome for MM. TM presided over all aspects of likes and dislikes. He ran a mean show. From an early age TM and SM set the Bar for MM. They decided what was cool, what was acceptable, what was beneath her , where her ambitions should lie. TM is on the record stating his hatred for Jason. If he spoke about JC to his work colleagues then one can only imagine the conversation that must have taken place with MM regarding the man who could offer her some semblance of normality.JC was not good enough for MM in daddys eyes.he promoted the disdain and the hatred. This man was a control freak.If he had accepted JC as the man that was going to take care of his daughter and promoted JC then I'm sure he could have had a very positive influence on that marriage. He choose to control the very act of someone elses marriage.He interfered in his daughters only shot at happiness.
TM proved that he was the reason for MM becomming a murderer. His preceived staus within the community elevated his sense of entitlement and his judgement on all things was final. His sons were ready to rise to the occasion and defend their very sick sister when normal parents would have insisted that they start a new life somewhere with new Identities. They now have become enablers and are helping to promote the murderers to acheive a miscarriage of justice. The pride TM and SM instilled in his family has proven to be the rock they will perish on. Ordinary men and women just like Mr Fitzpatrick have passed judgement and it's not acceptable to TM/SM/MM/CM/SM/ME/ME that people of a lesser GOD should have a say in what's right or wrong. As TM put it. " I found the man (MR Fitzpatrick) uneducated and I couldn't understand a word he said." well to understand MR fitzpatrick TM would have had to speak the language of truth. This is why he couldn't understand him. MR fitzpatrick was wise enough to know that "A fine southerly gentleman of esquisite character and refinement" wanted him to tell a few lies.MR Fitzpatrick was educated enough to know this and documented a testament. MR Fitzpatrick went to his grave having NOT commited murder. To his last dying day he upheld the truth.

 

[stmarysmead]

Interesting fact yesterday in the IrishDM piece from Fagan....that although their daughter was ill and unemployed, once she and KM moved into together, they required KM to pay rent and support her. He had a very low paying job and yet, they were making life financially difficult for him, while he was caring for their sick chaotic daughter.

Also, they covered up continually for her long absences in high school. She has to feel their shame over something she couldn't control.

I think part of this coverup is their shame at the extent of her illness. They cannot accept that they produced a less than perfect child, much less a murderer.

 

[Grouchymom]

I have given this case a great deal of time and thought and I think I have come up with a unique view on it. I have run through thousands of possibilities and probabilities but in the end the 2 convicted murderers actually outsmarted themselves. please bear with my ramblings to try to get to the point.

We all read the graphic descriptions of the crimes scene and knew it was probably much worse than we could imagine. We eagerly awaited the testimony of the "splatter" expert. We read the procesutions references to the "clean hands" and TM's faltering memory on the stand. Did they wash their hands? We learned that MM spent a total of 90 minutes in the neighbors rest room. Did she wash up? No one knew.

We saw the comments of the Jury Foreman with reference to clean hands and CPR. Many believe that the
" clean hands = fake CPR" and no injuries were damning evidence that had a huge impact on the verdict.

Now think about this for a minute. In any scenario from

the chance that he had his hands on her throat (I personally don't believe this but in the absolute worst case it might have occurred) to

the possibility they didn't mean to kill him and got carried away, or

had buyers remorse and did try to perform CPR and save him.

The possibility that they washed their hands and faces and lied about it for fear that admitting to washing would make them look guilty was in reality the thing that probably convicted them.

After seeing the crime scene photos trickle out yesterday there is no doubt in my mind that at some point they had to have cleaned up. There was one photo that I can't remember where I saw it, after looking at so many articles, that showed MM with a chocolate faux sable throw around her shoulders where she had a blood smear on her cheek.

That smear was not in any other picture I have seen. The splatter on the walls, floor and bed proves to me they could only have had clean hands if they wore gloves or washed up after.

Either way as we all grew up at some point grumbling because our parents sent us to wash up, none of us ever thought of the excuse clean hands might get us sent to prison. :thinking:

Just the musings of the worn out brain of one odd person. IMHO

(THIS IS THE ONE MENTIONED ABOVE)
http://extra.ie/news/irish-news/pictured-inside-jason-corbett-murder-house

A new one I hadn't seen before
http://www.independent.ie/irish-new...er-jason-corbetts-brutal-murder-36021891.html

 

[searchinGirl]

Interesting fact yesterday in the IrishDM piece from Fagan....that although their daughter was ill and unemployed, once she and KM moved into together, they required KM to pay rent and support her. He had a very low paying job and yet, they were making life financially difficult for him, while he was caring for their sick chaotic daughter.

Also, they covered up continually for her long absences in high school. She has to feel their shame over something she couldn't control.

I think part of this coverup is their shame at the extent of her illness. They cannot accept that they produced a less than perfect child, much less a murderer.

What I can't understand is why they didn't get her the help she's needed for the last two years in taking responsibility for this crime. Talk about enabling. This would have gone better for her, and everyone else for that matter, if she just told the whole truth about what happened. She is in total denial. IMO

 

[irishmartin]

Interesting fact yesterday in the IrishDM piece from Fagan....that although their daughter was ill and unemployed, once she and KM moved into together, they required KM to pay rent and support her. He had a very low paying job and yet, they were making life financially difficult for him, while he was caring for their sick chaotic daughter.

Also, they covered up continually for her long absences in high school. She has to feel their shame over something she couldn't control.

I think part of this coverup is their shame at the extent of her illness. They cannot accept that they produced a less than perfect child, much less a murderer.

Was really taken back of the picture of the ever loving giving parents by the “rent” payments demands on a guy that was caring for their ill daughter. But then again was not JC to extravagantly pay for their one and only daughter’s wedding. Looks like wherever there was a patsy to be found to use them just like MM used her JC financed credit card to buy furnishings for their house. It was all take take take and they took too much.

 

[robinhood]

Molly probably cares about the children but I kind of feel that she thought of having the children in her life as her ticket.

I think she wanted to replicate her upringing, She tried to control and influence beyond normal parental guidance. It was learned behaviour trying to show TM that even though she was not successful she could manufacture a success with 2 children using TMs rules.

 

[stmarysmead]

What I can't understand is why they didn't get her the help she's needed for the last two years in taking responsibility for this crime. Talk about enabling. This would have gone better for her, and everyone else for that matter, if she just told the whole truth about what happened. She is in total denial. IMO

There are various reasons I have utter contempt for this family, but one of the key reasons is exactly your point, Searchin. Instead of a coverup, there should have been complete honesty to the police. Because anyone looking at Jason's battered body and the horror in that room, knew that MM had now demonstrated that her illness could make her a danger to others.

How would she deal with rebellious teenagers in years to come? With a grieving stepson who already had driven her to almost waterboard him in front of witnesses? MM had violently escalated.

But immediately their concern was to keep the kids and the lifestyle....and deny the bipolar diagnosis that has caused her to be hospitalized years before. There was no concern for the future safety of those kids. This was not a bang in the head and oops, he's dead. This was a rage killing. And who is to say what might drive her to rage in another circumstance?

This M family is sick in their own way. Keeping up appearances was more important than protecting those children or getting MM the care she desperately needed.

Appalling family. Really.

 

[irishmartin]

It still really annoys me that she is still able to use the Corbett name. After what she did she should be make use her maiden name only.

Or she could see herself as getting early parole or an appeal being granted. All she needs do is dust herself down and drop the C and she is a new person with only her picture could be remembered. But I’m sure with the innovation she possesses she could easily work around that.

 

[robinhood]

absolutely, the silence from Farragut high school past pupils has been deafening. I do not believe for 1 minute that this was an isolated incident. I'm not suggesting anything as brutal as murder but I believe she left a trail of damage wherever she cast a shadow.

 

[robinhood]

This was a violent rage. She needed to stop JC taking the kids. She could have destroyed his passport when he was asleep which would have bought her time and a better opportunity. It was on the beside locker. She tried to provoke JC with the fat shaming comment previously but he was wise to her . This probably frustrated her more. When JC went to bed early a discussion took place in the kitchen or thereabouts. there were three people down stairs.There are two murderers behind bars...........

 

[stephanddoody]

[h=1]'Disgusting, nothing but a pack of lies'[/h]A "disgusting" online fundraiser for murderers Molly and Thomas Martens has sparked a furious backlash.


Ms Martens and her father were convicted on Wednesday of the second degree murder of her husband, Irish businessman Jason Corbett.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-new...tens-raises-thousands-overnight-36022637.html

 

[Frizby]

This was a violent rage. She needed to stop JC taking the kids. She could have destroyed his passport when he was asleep which would have bought her time and a better opportunity. It was on the beside locker. She tried to provoke JC with the fat shaming comment previously but he was wise to her . This probably frustrated her more. When JC went to bed early a discussion took place in the kitchen or thereabouts. there were three people down stairs.There are two murderers behind bars...........

With the passport being on the bedside locker, this suggests that travel plans were at the forefront of his mind and possibly have been discussed that night. The only time my passport is out is when I am organising travel plans where passport number is required or actually travelling.

 

[kittythehare]

What I can't understand is why they didn't get her the help she's needed for the last two years in taking responsibility for this crime. Talk about enabling. This would have gone better for her, and everyone else for that matter, if she just told the whole truth about what happened. She is in total denial. IMO

I never got the impression they disapproved of her deed(s)
I believe they believed she acted correctly.
her father hated him, probably her mother too, who relentlessly engaged in the ruthless exploitative social media campaign, with the orphans as their prey and the C family as their targets.
They were all in there ME and ME (f).. with their fundraisers, dishonesty and public slandering of both the victim and his family.

I think they should be prosecuted.

 

[stephanddoody]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/juror-father-daughter-murder-trial-doubt-mind-guilty/story?id=49141218

[video=youtube;5en-qyHUVmE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5en-qyHUVmE[/video]

[h=1]Juror in father-daughter murder trial: 'No doubt in my mind' guilty verdict was 'right choice'[/h]Martens and Molly Corbett claimed Jason Corbett was choking her on the night of Aug. 2, 2015, when Martens intervened and hit him with a baseball bat. Martens testified that Molly told him she also struck Jason with a paving stone that was on her nightstand, though Martens claims he didn't see it happen. They both said they were convinced Jason was trying to kill her and they were defending themselves and each other against him.
The medical examiner’s report said Jason Corbett was hit at least 10 times and the cause of death was ruled blunt force trauma.
“To me, the choking did not occur,” Figueroa said. Jury foreman Tom Aamland and another juror, Nancy Perez, agreed.
“Once you hit a certain point and you do not stop, manslaughter or self-defense goes off the table,” Figueroa said. “Once that point was matched where you could have stopped then and there, once the person was no longer an aggressor, if that were the case, and you continue, it’s no longer self-defense.”
Another major factor in their verdict decision, they said, was the gruesome crime scene photos. Perez said the first image of Jason Corbett’s body she saw was so graphic that she vomited in the North Carolina courtroom.
The three jurors said they believe Molly Corbett and her father took some time after Jason died to conspire before they called 911, and they said the prosecution’s argument that investigators said Martens and Molly Corbett didn’t appear to have any injuries was telling. Figueroa said she even believes Molly Corbett struck her husband first with the paving stone while he was sleeping.
“I think at some point Dad came to help out and cover it up,” Figueroa said. “There was blood on the pillow and on the comforter. That may have been the first blow, and then it progressed from that point where he got out of bed and she might have struck him more than one time in bed.”