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I love your post and it is a long one so I will just snip and reply...
B] I kicked myself several times early on for feeling such disgust for the man. For what I still feel to be negligence on his part. I believe our children are entrusted to us and although we all make mistakes, to make one that leads to a child being murdered, is just more than I can find the ability to forgive at this point. ME TOO
If it comes out that he truly knew nothing of AD, those she associated with and the reports of drug use and prostitution, I will feel less harshly towards him. He is not on trial, so it wont be cleared up at all. If she was able to fool BL into thinking her only fault was lack of money to raise a second child. Well, shame on him for not looking more closely, but that is not the same IMO as handing a child over to one you know associates with drug users and prostitution but I don't believe it is going to be the case. IF AD handed Shaniya over to MAM and is in jail for that, why isn't he getting investigated for handing over Sahniya to AD?[/COLOR]
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If BL had primary or physical custody of Shaniya, on the books or not. When AD told Carey she would never see Shaniya again, if Carey had the ability to be BL's mouth piece in his absence and Carey suspected there were drugs or any other illegal activity in the trailer, why would the police not have acted on the mother refusing to return Shaniya to her primary guardian? Because AD is her mother, never lost custody, you cant take a child away that fast. BUT you can send in Child Services pretty fast if you think there is a danger to a child very fast, and she did not Especially if they found Shaniya had been pulled out of her school and not enrolled elsewhere? and why did Carey need for BL to return home before telling him? Makes no sense..I totally agree.
The situation of T Allen offering to take Shaniya, BL agreeing and going back to AD, I don't believe was some big drawn out process. He agreed on the 1st, then said "No." on the 2nd, then left for Oregon or Washington state (can't remember which) on 10/3. That is right, and puzeling at best because giving her to AD could have waited till he returned and did more investigating.
I originally believed as you, possibly these people speaking out was all just sour grapes, with the friend and ex F-I-L; a few nights ago I played a Levi Page radio blog - Blog Radio Levi Page 11/23/09 - he had Michelle Sigona on as a guest, I thought he described her to be an investigator but it seems she is more of a reporter, although very well connected and seeming to be held in very high regard. I posted origininally that I did not like how they spoke of him, and in-front of his children, but with time, I realized they were talking straight forward.I respect that
According to Sigona the custody with the gp's was settled back in 1998 and was granted to the grandparents because of BL traveling for weeks on end - I will grant you, child support does seem to be a problem for BL as the gp's took him to court again in 2007 for issues with money. Hopefully there are no hard feelings, that would be worse still for the kids.
Just another thing that DOES ALLOW us to see things that he cant hide.
Also according to Sigona, Cheyenne is living with Allen and fam because she wants to go to the school in the district where he lives, so it really didn't sound like too much drama was involved in the decision. I realize this could just be speculation on the part of Sigona, but she said it in such a way it sounded like she knew what she was talking about. It does make sense, since Cheyenne apparently is one of the kids from BL's marriage and the Coleman's have had custody of her for years. Thank God they had custody of the kids
I don't know if the comment about Cheyenne living with Allen because BL "kicked her out" - "refused to care for her" was a quote from Allen - Cheyenne or just a reporter taking a guess. I've read it several times, but never heard it for myself from the parties involved. And since he lost custody in '98 and is out of the state so much; saying "He refused to care for or Kicked her out" Is not really accurate. WHY NOT??? if he got a sleep in nanny to be with the children it would cost him less and they would all be together and when he'd be home he would have his children if he really wanted them...Other dads do that too if they lost a wife, and have to go to work.
Cheyenne does talk in circles and she sounds younger than her 17 years. But I heard twice, directly from Cheyenne's mouth that BL was aware what was what with AD and that he knew AD could not care for Shaniya. Not only based on her, Allen also said Shaniya was not supposed to go there, they knew.
Two other things that bothered me was (1) the changing dates of when Aunt Carey last saw Shaniya. Wasn't it said that she saw her on Oct 31? She said she and AD shared custody after BL left on 10/3, Shaniya leaving a week later (I think the date I heard was 10/9), later Carey said she last saw Shaniya 4 weeks ago on a Friday (said on 11/16ish in a morning talk show interview) which make the 10/9 date just about right. Halloween '09 being on a Saturday, blows the 10/31 date away. Brother and sister stories were never aligned it made it clear they were not saying it like it is "TRUTH" does not have several different versions.[/COLOR]
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BTW; BL calling AD a "one night stand", IMHO did nothing for his credibility or his image. That was to preserve himself from Public opinion, how do you have a one night stand and then come pick up a child a couple of years later???? AD had Shaniya the first year. It is the way he pretends to not know where he dumped Shaniya...
The following was an anonymous post left in a local news site the day Shaniya went missing. A short time later the 3 offenders in the park were added to the article. It is horrible how many locals tagged this for what it was, starting the very first day, as being family related and Shaniya gone for good.:
Everyone knew accept for Brad about Sleepy Hollow, sure, and I fell off a tree last night too. :waitasec:
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It was a great post LCoastMom before I sniped it, but I did want to reply to some of your points.