NC - Zahra Clare Baker, 10, Hickory, 9 Oct 2010 # 22

[ynotdivein]

215 on thread now... greetings to our sleepyhead Oz WSers... grab some coffee and join us. Zahra sure could use your insights today!

 

[PrincessTrioMom]

In most states, in order to Child Services to 'do sometihng' there has to be evidence. Either the child must state there is sometihng going on, there must be evidence on the child such as bruises, marks, malnutrition, etc, or someone needs to have evidence.
Also, Child Services can't come in, bang down the door, and investigate. A parent must allow them in, unless there is a court order.
Laws vary, state by state, but in most places, there has to be 'just cause'.

I agree wholeheartedly. You can call DSS anonymously, but I think people just didn't want the hassle of filing a report to LE because they take your name. Many, many adults failed this child. I am afraid LE in Sawmills failed to see the seriousness also. They were "tired of being called there" according to a Newspaper article that I can't find and honestly am too tired to dredge up. Hickory Daily Record.

I agree that many adults failed Zahra.

Sawmills doesn't have a police force. Residents of Sawmills are served by the Caldwell County Sheriff's Office out of Lenoir. To my knowledge there aren't any 'outposts' for them. There's a Highway Patrol station in Hudson and a police department in Granite Falls. I'd like to read the article you referenced.

FWIW, the Caldwell County Sheriff's Office is most likely responsible for providing police services in the area of Dudley Shoals where LE is currently searching.

 

[Kat]

Perhaps AB has only second-hand knowledge and doesn't know EXACTLY where Zahra is.

This could be possible SondraK IMHO. I agree with you. Although with his arrest today, I'm leaning away from this at this point in time to be honest. But it's possible, yes.

But IMHO if he had second hand knowledge he should have told that a long time ago. Or whenever he first heard it. It's been reported that he hasn't visited EB, it's been reported that he has...even if he has, if she told him at that time there is no reason whatsoever in my mind why he shouldn't have spoken up and told LE where to find the body of his child. His flesh and blood. If this proves to be accurate, and he did know but didn't tell? Shame on him.

JMHO.

 

[sunsetbeach]

Pic of the area being searched... for those just joining....

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=knoll...022,-81.371854&spn=0.001561,0.005166&t=h&z=18

According to what I saw on my original link the place that is being searched is not on Burns road it is on Dudley Shoals rd. Which would be the area behind the yarn mill (or what ever that big building is).

 

[elepher50]

This could be possible SondraK IMHO. I agree with you. Although with his arrest today, I'm leaning away from this at this point in time to be honest. But it's possible, yes.

But IMHO if he had second hand knowledge he should have told that a long time ago. Or whenever he first heard it. It's been reported that he hasn't visited EB, it's been reported that he has...even if he has, if she told him at that time there is no reason whatsoever in my mind why he shouldn't have spoken up and told LE where to find the body of his child. His flesh and blood. If this proves to be accurate, and he did know but didn't tell? Shame on him.

JMHO.

Do you have a link for the mug shot Kat. And I say shame on all of them - whoever all of them is.

 

[ckwood32]

http://injail.catawbacountync.gov/WhosInJail/
Mugshot

 

[passionflower]

OK thanks. I just wanted to check for a scanner link but only fire/rescue again in Caldwell. I had hoped to hook up with a police scanner. :blowkiss:

I'm on emgy and fire.........
can't find anything better....wonder why???

 

[SailorMoon]

I'll second and third whoever said he sure didn't look too upset or broken hearted in his mug shot. Such a desolate road there -- I hope she is found and laid to rest. I don't think she is alive anymore - I hate to say it but I just don't.

 

[sunsetbeach]

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=knollwood+mhp++granite+falls++nc&sll=35.864312,-81.375998&sspn=0.006278,0.017102&g=knollwood+mhp++granite+falls++nc&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Knollwood+Mhp,+Granite+Falls,+Caldwell,+North+Carolina+28630&ll=35.863322,-81.371678&spn=0.000198,0.000534&t=h&z=21

This is where the cars were parked

 

[summer_breeze]

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/missing-zahra-baker-s-father-arrested

Jerrie Dean
Missing Persons Examiner
October 25th, 2010 2:07 pm ET

The father of missing 10-year-old Zahra Baker has been arrested on bad check charges, and early reports say that he was at the airport when they arrested him. It is not know at this writing if he was trying to board a plane.

 

[bellyup]

Does anyone else find it a little disturbing that they were "holding off" on an arrest for assault with a deadly weapon? I get the bad check charges, no big deal, but is it common practice in that area to not arrest someone for assault with a DW?

I'm not real privy to the way law works but those charges were already "dismissed with leave" ... so perhaps the don't feel those charges really hold much weight but since they need them now , best to utilize it to their advantage?

 

[Kimster]

I'm on emgy and fire.........
can't find anything better....wonder why???

Someone has to host the feed. There isn't anyone hosting that one.

 

[Kat]

Do you have a link for the mug shot Kat. And I say shame on all of them - whoever all of them is.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/10/25/1786178/zahra-bakers-dad-jailed-not-connected.html


Still looking for the direct link to booking.

 

[elepher50]

http://injail.catawbacountync.gov/WhosInJail/
Mugshot

Thanks - I was having a meltdown not being able to see the mugshot. His eyes are lifeless and dull. Dunno why but I always have to look at the eyes.

Thanks..thanks...thanks

 

[Lera213]

Help me here, this is who is in custody and there is a name on this list a Jxxx Bxxx, is he AB and if not is he related? It states he is in custody for 2 days now?

http://www.caldwellsheriff.org/incustody.PDF

 

[darnudes]

We just waking up here.......OMG!! Now going back to read up......Whoooo hooooo!!! Justice for Zahra. I wonder if this will be enough to bring out if he has any priors here in Australia, we can't access those records like you guys can, but would be very interested to find out his history (often this info doesn't come out until AFTER trial here however). :woohoo:

Thanks for waking me up too! Just kidding, great news, going back to catch up.

So, any word on Zahra?

 

[FaerieB]

Anybody have a link for the mug shot please? Am at work and not on my normal sleuthing computer..........ugh!

There are two. The first is from the police department, the second from the jail.

 

[Kat]

http://injail.catawbacountync.gov/WhosInJail/
Mugshot

Thanks ckwood!

Can't get it to load we must all be on that server LOL.

 

[Amster]

On the charges of assault that both AB and EB were charged with....didn't I read that they had failure to appear on those charges?? Or, some kind of mess up with LE? I "assume" there were warrants out for them on the charges? Why were they allowed to prance around, free, with those charges? :waitasec:

 

[sunsetbeach]

According to what I saw on my original link the place that is being searched is not on Burns road it is on Dudley Shoals rd. Which would be the area behind the yarn mill (or what ever that big building is).

If you follow that dead end looking road it takes you to a creek. I believe this is where they are looking. It is one looong creek. So if she's there it may take awhile to find her.