NH NH/CA - Terry Peder Rasmussen, suspected SK, Allenstown, 1981-2000's - #2

[Owutatangledweb]

I'm still thinking Canadian. Don't know why. Just instinct and the fluent French I think. Wonder how Canada trains its military in the foreign languages.

 

[Wossy]

I've been looking at women who have went missing in the Eastern United States during the 1970s-1980s and the only one that seems to stand out is Susan Rhonda Labbe. Not sure If she has been ruled out or not, but she fits the description and possible age of the woman found at Bear Brook. Also after reading some of the posts it seems like they were more than likely killed between the Summer and Fall of 1980. She could have had 3 children in that 6 year time period she ran away, maybe she was already pregnant at the time she went missing.

 

[Alleykins]

Rhonda Labbe has both dental and DNA available, according to NamUs. I'm thinking she could be an automatic rule out, which aren't listed. The only real way to find out is to submit it, though.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4613/1/

 

[Gardener1850]

There are a lot of holes and weird things about this case. He listed his wife as Elizabeth Evans in 1980 around the time the murders might have happened. I wonder how many missing women there are with the name Elizabeth from the 1970s on The Charley Project. Maybe one is the woman who was found in the barrel in 1985.

RSBM. Here is the NH Woman's Namus profile for comparison: https://identifyus.org/en/cases/2174

I looked and didn't find too many Elizabeths reported missing during the 70's that match the description:

1971: Elizabeth Lande missing from Philadelphia at age 21: https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2508/
(While she could have had kids after she wen missing, she is way too short to be the woman in the barrel at only 50-54" tall)

1974: Elizabeth Converse from Michigan at age 50 -- Too old: https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/23656/
1977: Elizabeth Brown from from North Carolina at ager 53 -- too old: https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2534/

1978: Elizabeth Byron missing at age 36 from Ventura County, California: https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/17693/
There are very few details in Elizabeth Byron's case. She is closest to the right age of the woman in the Barrel and the right height at 66". Does anyone know if Elizabeth Byron has been submitted?

 

[Alleykins]

RSBM. Here is the NH Woman's Namus profile for comparison: https://identifyus.org/en/cases/2174

I looked and didn't find too many Elizabeths reported missing during the 70's that match the description:

1971: Elizabeth Lande missing from Philadelphia at age 21: https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2508/
(While she could have had kids after she wen missing, she is way too short to be the woman in the barrel at only 50-54" tall)

1974: Elizabeth Converse from Michigan at age 50 -- Too old: https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/23656/
1977: Elizabeth Brown from from North Carolina at ager 53 -- too old: https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2534/

1978: Elizabeth Byron missing at age 36 from Ventura County, California: https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/17693/
There are very few details in Elizabeth Byron's case. She is closest to the right age of the woman in the Barrel and the right height at 66". Does anyone know if Elizabeth Byron has been submitted?

I like Elizabeth Byron for the mother of the middle child, wish she had DNA available.
As for her possibly being the adult female, she'd have to have had a child missing with her as well. If she had gone missing in 1968 or so instead of 1978, it would have been possible to have a child that age unknown to her family. However, the LKA date of 1978 without a female maternal relative also missing would rule her out, I would think.

 

[Gardener1850]

I like Elizabeth Byron for the mother of the middle child, wish she had DNA available.
As for her possibly being the adult female, she'd have to have had a child missing with her as well. If she had gone missing in 1968 or so instead of 1978, it would have been possible to have a child that age unknown to her family. However, the LKA date of 1978 without a female maternal relative also missing would rule her out, I would think.

Gosh this case is so complicated. I'm wondering... what if the older child was living with her father from a very young age and most of the mom's family didn't know about her? Maybe a teen pregnancy kept quiet? Or just a divorce and lost custody of a child no one ever talked about. Then maybe when the mother went missing she actually went to live with the child's father or her child. The woman's family wouldn't have reported the children missing because they wouldn't know they were missing (or even existed). There could be a separate missing reports for the child with a different last name and there could be years between the missing reports even if they were killed at the same time. No idea how to explain what happened to the father(s?) of the woman's oldest and youngest children though... My head is spinning trying to sort this all out...

 

[SillyGoose01234]

Rhonda Labbe has both dental and DNA available, according to NamUs. I'm thinking she could be an automatic rule out, which aren't listed. The only real way to find out is to submit it, though.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4613/1/

Ronda has been ruled out. Here's the rule out list.

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[Alleykins]

I can see why she was overlooked, because her first name is actually Susan, not Rhonda

 

[Alleykins]

Here's an MP from Canada who could be RE:
https://www.services.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/missing-disparus/case-dossier.jsf?case=2015044121&id=8

 

[Irish_Eyes]

Here's an MP from Canada who could be RE:
https://www.services.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/missing-disparus/case-dossier.jsf?case=2015044121&id=8

If you scroll down there is a photo included. Looks like a different guy.

 

[forthevictims]

Thank you.
Are RE's fingerprints in AFIS?
Also, do you know if they seized any computers from Joon's house and scoured them for any evidence?

Yes.
Yes-already checked previously and in line to be double checked.

To clear up a few other questions out there-he never had an official ID in any AKA. (In the past-if pulled over and you don't have ID you give your name and DOB and get the cite in that name/DOB-in the past there was no computer systems to verify that name on site. Also if arrested/no ID/give an AKA and no prints in system-you are now under that AKA with those prints-as happened under Curtis Kimball.) Would not register any vehicle to himself-just buy it private party or steal it and drive it.

Also Crime Watch Daily will have a new show on this case within the next month. I'll post the date when I know.

 

[Alleykins]

Yes.
Yes-already checked previously and in line to be double checked.

To clear up a few other questions out there-he never had an official ID in any AKA. (In the past-if pulled over and you don't have ID you give your name and DOB and get the cite in that name/DOB-in the past there was no computer systems to verify that name on site. Also if arrested/no ID/give an AKA and no prints in system-you are now under that AKA with those prints-as happened under Curtis Kimball.) Would not register any vehicle to himself-just buy it private party or steal it and drive it.

Also Crime Watch Daily will have a new show on this case within the next month. I'll post the date when I know.

RBBM for focus
Is this pertaining to seized computers or his fingerprints, I just wanted to clarify. Thank you.

 

[Gardener1850]

I came across this article about a man missing from Canada since 1977, legally declared dead in 1986, and just recently found alive living in Oklahoma under an assumed name and it made me think of RE: http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/ontario-man-missing-since-1977-found-alive-in-u-s-1.1974646

I wonder if RE could be a Canadian that was declared dead after going missing and is no longer on a missing persons list?

 

[Alleykins]

I came across this article about a man missing from Canada since 1977, legally declared dead in 1986, and just recently found alive living in Oklahoma under an assumed name and it made me think of RE: http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/ontario-man-missing-since-1977-found-alive-in-u-s-1.1974646

I wonder if RE could be a Canadian that was declared dead after going missing and is no longer on a missing persons list?

That's a possibility, but Canada doesn't have much of a list, if you ask me.

 

[Gardener1850]

That's a possibility, but Canada doesn't have much of a list, if you ask me.

I wonder if they automatically declare people dead after so many years? I noticed there were not many missing cases from the 70's and 80's. Anyone know if LE could cross reference RE's profile with those who had to be declared dead? Maybe there is not a list online but it could be a start to finding out his identity.

 

[carbuff]

Being declared dead is a legal procedure and it doesn't affect whether the person is listed as missing in any of our usual databases. If you read through the descriptions in Charley or Doenet, you'll often run into information indicating when the family had the person declared dead (often necessary to allow for things like guardianship of children, disposal of property, etc.)

 

[Sherwood Park]

I wonder if they automatically declare people dead after so many years? I noticed there were not many missing cases from the 70's and 80's. Anyone know if LE could cross reference RE's profile with those who had to be declared dead? Maybe there is not a list online but it could be a start to finding out his identity.

In Canada people can't be automatically declared dead. A legal request to have them declared dead must be filed. Criteria is different for each province.
http://elder.findlaw.ca/article/when-can-someone-be-officially-declared-dead/

 

[Sherwood Park]

That's a possibility, but Canada doesn't have much of a list, if you ask me.

Across Canada the government and police departments have done a terrible job of tracking missing persons, assisting families to find missing persons, and establishing laws about missing persons.
This might be why our databases of missing persons seems to be "lacking". It has mostly been volunteer groups and activists across Canada who have kept the missing in the media.

 

[Alleykins]

Across Canada the government and police departments have done a terrible job of tracking missing persons, assisting families to find missing persons, and establishing laws about missing persons.
This might be why our databases of missing persons seems to be "lacking". It has mostly been volunteer groups and activists across Canada who have kept the missing in the media.

That's kind of what I gathered when I went looking, that it wasn't a group effort, so to speak. I think they are trying to improve it from what I've read.
Last I knew, Canadian officials wouldn't take a DNA sample from the family unless they had a set of remains to try to match it to. They don't have an equivalent of CODIS.
The frustrating part is that it was so easy for someone to cross the border up until the 911 tragedy, it's possible some of these older cases are Canadians and perhaps some of their UPs might be Americans, but there's really no way to cross reference. Trying to get someone to reach across the border right now is like pulling teeth, except for the AGJD case. The ME on that case has reached out to Canadian officials a few times to rule out a few missing people on her case.

 

[aThousandYearsWide]

Playing catch-up. I had a stalker and cops found him passed out in my yard! long story, but I've been laying low lately and am a bit traumatized.

Don't know if anyone posted this article yet.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...ly-new-life/vCCxbYYUD63kjIoIMJQiWM/story.html

It mentions some new information that I haven't seen yet.

Police asked Lisa whether she had any brothers or sisters. She used to, she told them, but they died from eating “grass mushrooms” while they were camping.

what I'm seeing here is other victims being dumped in a state park and since Lisa was possibly present he lied to her about how they died.

And I can't believe that they prove through fingerprints that he abandoned Lisa, but he claims to not even remember her!

The article also states that Denise's family don't know Lisa's biological father, but have narrowed it down to a few people. Must have been a brief relationship. Lisa mentioned that Evans could have thought he was her father, which is originally why she thinks he spared her before hearing one of the Allenstown victims was his daughter.

Ways Evans claimed Lisa's mom died:

• Child birth
• Car crash
• Caught in crossfire during robbery
• Cancer

Accents:

• southern
• east coast
• no accent

Languages:

• French
• Spanish
• Chinese
• Arabic

The article also verifies his Curtis Mayo Kimball alias was stolen from La Porte, TX.