New article kind of made it seem that the older brother was just an accomplish and the 15 year old was the mastermind.
That is what I deduced as well.
Yes on the find autumn page friends commented he was at the vigil last night. I was looking around on fb today and found more than one post by jr lateee sat night.just makes me so angry
that autumn was more than likely already in that recycling container at that time 
You hear it often when crimes are committed that family and friends say they would never have suspected...who WANTS to think a loved one or a friend is capable of such a disgusting thing?
(bold italics added by me)
That could certainly be the case, but in articles it seems the boys friends/aquaintences all seem to know the boys trade parts or steal bikes, depending on what article you read. Either way, it sounds like either bike stuff is commonly around the house in the open, or they have a hidey spot mom never checks. Also, do we know if the victim had been in the bin *outside* since Saturday, or had she been stashed in the house with the bike?
If mom was only kinda sort of there now and again but not living there for reals, it might explain how (if in fact this is what was happening) the boys had a bike parts fencing business, were comfortable having a 12 year old girl in the house on a Saturday afternoon for a premeditated murder and then keep her in the house until garbage/recycling day Monday (?)
(respectfully snipped for brevity; bold italics added by me)
they haven't released a time of death yet, correct? So
isn't it possible that they held her alive until trash pick-up day? I admit that sounds risky (not to mention horrible), but, frankly none of these brothers' actions have been well thought out, based on what we know.
That would explain why she wasn't found earlier; why there was no smell; and why they identified her so quickly. (ie. she was not very decomposed yet ) just a theory.
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I also wanted to add my commendation and thanks to the accused's mother who helped bring them in. We don't often see this, and yes, it's possible someone reminded her that she could face charges herself, but that's not what the news articles and LE are saying. They are thanking her.
I don't always tell my children about these cases. There are too many of them and and it would be too easy for them to get a false and unrealistic impression of the level of risk in their daily life. (which is actually quite low statistically) I don't want to terrify them, but occasionally when I want them to stop and think, I will talk to them about a case. I used this one to explain why I want to know where they are going, and to call when they arrive & when they leave. I also used it to explain why you shouldn't go off meeting people off the Internet. Of course we later learned she knew them and felt safe doing so, but if she had only mentioned where she was going! If it was her habit for her parents to know her whereabouts and destination, perhaps these boys would not have even hoped to get away with this.
I don't go off for the day without telling someone where I'll be. Just like I don't use a high outside ladder to get on the roof when I'm home alone - you know? I wait until there's someone else at home to call for help if I fall.
I was surprised at my DH's vehement reaction when I mentioned that the boys' mother had turned them in. I mentioned how awful that must have been for her, and DH said to my boys, "And if I thought you'd done something like that, I wouldn't hesitate a second to turn you in." I'm glad he said it. He made it clear that we wouldn't be covering for them.
It's funny though, because the angle I was taking with the whole talk was how to reduce their risk of being a
victim, while DH took the other perspective, how to reduce their risk of being the
trouble makers by laying it on the table that it would not be tolerated and was not acceptable. Of course them being the perps never occurred to me!
I had one of those moments where I was very glad there are two of us. He sees things from a different angle.
So, praise and thanks and much sympathy to the mother of those boys. It goes without saying that my heart aches for Autumn's family as well. I'm sure this is unbearable beyond my comprehension. Her birthday will be hell on earth. If only we could undo it, and reset three young lives back on a different path. It was such a pointless loss.
(FWIW, my 12 & 9 YO sons walked together to the library for the first time this summer - it's 4 blocks - they are home schooled, so they scarcely ever leave my side otherwise, unless I drop them off at piano, dance etc. I actually have been wanting them to walk to the library to have a chance to practice some responsibility and independence since they don't spend the school day away from me. The second time they made the trip, some man in a truck pulled over and offered them a ride!! They refused, but they didnt mention it to me until 3 days later. I havent sent them back since. It was very hard for me to grasp that Autumn was completely out of contact for 7 hours.)
I cannot even begin to demonstrate how many beautifully cared for homes have housed murderers, rapists, and child abusers in cases I've followed.
