NJ NJ - Dulce Mariá Alavez, 5, abducted @ Bridgeton City Park, Cumberland Co, 16 Sep 2019 #7

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I feel like another grid search of the park would be a good thing. I can't even remember if there's been a thorough one.

Jmo

I agree.
Though I don't discount the possibility she was abducted, I feel they should search the wooded area surrounding the park again, too.
I've been watching the CanAm Missing Persons Project on Youtube, created by David
Paulides. One of his case profile points is that the missing person is oftentimes found in an area searched multiple times prior. Some of the child cases he profiled, where the child was found, they were found miles from where they went missing.
 
Bolded by me. So, my mind wasn't playing tricks on me. I was under the impression this was the "story" all along. The 8-year-old was doing her homework, and Noema was scratching lottery tickets.
Thank you so much for posting this!

This article is from September 2020. I provided a link in my previous post where the lottery scratch offs were first mentioned, which was by Noema, appx 2 weeks after Dulce disappeared.
 
According to this article from NBC-
Philly
the county prosecutor, Bridgeton mayor and FBI all believe Dulce is still alive. Hopefully they have more info than they are sharing because I don’t necessarily agree with the prosecutors below statement.

“If she was deceased, something would turn out somewhere,” Cumberland County Prosecutor Jennifer Webb-McRae told NBC10.


One positive note apparently cameras will be installed in the park.

After 1 Year, Investigators Think Missing Girl Dulce María Alavez Is Still Alive
 
According to this article from NBC-
Philly
the county prosecutor, Bridgeton mayor and FBI all believe Dulce is still alive. Hopefully they have more info than they are sharing because I don’t necessarily agree with the prosecutors below statement.

“If she was deceased, something would turn out somewhere,” Cumberland County Prosecutor Jennifer Webb-McRae told NBC10.


One positive note apparently cameras will be installed in the park.

After 1 Year, Investigators Think Missing Girl Dulce María Alavez Is Still Alive
As long as remains have not been located, she must be considered alive and missing. I am ever the optimist, and generally take this POV. In this particular case, I would encourage searches, and multiple researches of the park.

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This case has done nothing but upset me. I heard about it last year when she first went missing, but didn't really latch on. Recently I have found myself stuck on this case. It's similar to Asha Degree's case. Just disappeared without a trace. Where did her ice cream go? I feel like IF she was snatched, it's more than likely someone involved in the family..I only say that because if a stranger DID in fact snatch her, wouldn't there maybe be SOME evidence of a type of struggle? Was any ice cream found on the ground? A trail? The spoon? I saw on the surveillance that she got one of those cups that usually come with a wooden spoon.. Where did all of that go? Either she went in with no struggle, or the abductors wiped that park clean of her and her existence there..
 
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I didn't call but I did go online to the FBI Website under Dulce's info and selected the online tips and uploaded the files..my fingers are crossed. My heart strongly believes la hermosa Dulce is still with us.
And now I know what la hermosa means. : )
I certainly pray you are right, although my logic goes in a different direction. However, you just never know.

Where are you la hermosa Dulce?

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Where did her ice cream go? I feel like IF she was snatched, it's more than likely someone involved in the family..I only say that because if a stranger DID in fact snatch her, wouldn't there maybe be SOME evidence of a type of struggle?

Quote respectfully snipped by me.

I don't think relatives were involved, because how would they happen to know just when Dulce would be at the park AND unattended AND they manage to go essentially unnoticed waiting, and how would they go undetected all this time?
That's why I think it was a crime of opportunity.

Often in unexpected emergency situations, people don't struggle. They freeze up.

I can picture her clutching her ice cream cup while playing, a man either motions for her to go toward the buildings / his vehicle or she happens to run nearby, and before she can react she's being placed in the vehicle still holding her cup.
My opinions, though.

A relative who just wanted to bring her elsewhere to live or whatever would be a dream come true outcome.
 
Quote respectfully snipped by me.

I don't think relatives were involved, because how would they happen to know just when Dulce would be at the park AND unattended AND they manage to go essentially unnoticed waiting, and how would they go undetected all this time?
That's why I think it was a crime of opportunity.

Often in unexpected emergency situations, people don't struggle. They freeze up.

I can picture her clutching her ice cream cup while playing, a man either motions for her to go toward the buildings / his vehicle or she happens to run nearby, and before she can react she's being placed in the vehicle still holding her cup.
My opinions, though.

A relative who just wanted to bring her elsewhere to live or whatever would be a dream come true outcome.
Def. I was leaning more towards the family friend/acquaintance of the family. Can someone reiterate around how many people were at the park that day?
 
That depends: if you asked that question in the days immediately following the disappearance, the answer is “a couple dozen basketball players on the court” plus at least 1, maybe 2, men (the abductor and a “witness” who saw him). Months later on the Dr P show, the number was amended to “4 little girls on the b-ball court” I believe.
By now I’m guessing she would have surfaced had a body of water in the park/near the park been fallen into. I still think she may have wandered off or ran too far and she could be in the woods nearby. My other thought (not a popular one but still my thought) is that maybe they never went as far as reported into the park to begin with. Maybe the kids wanted to saunter along from the park entrance/further away from the playground with their ice cream. Or maybe it was dripping all over in the backseat. Maybe they were let out of the car, Noema continued to park and then noticed only 1 child was at the play area after a time. That could mean she’s further back in the park than the woods surrounding the play area. Of course, it’s possible that some predator was hanging around the park as school was letting out, just hoping he’d see a child to grab. Of course the timing could be so precise that the car pulled in, the kids got out and walked 90 feet away, positioned themselves exactly behind a teeny hill, and before a lottery ticket could be scratched off, that predator swooped in and grabbed Dulce and exited with 4/24 kids seeing nothing. My opinion is the time is probably off by at least some. We know exactly when the family went to the store because there is video. We do not know exactly how fast they arrived at the park from there. We do not know if the kids were unsupervised for 3 minutes or 20 minutes. We do not know if the brother of Noema and the dog walked or drove to help search before 911 was called. There are a lot of possibilities and a lot of discrepancies here IMO. The story and details HAVE changed over the past 12 months. Whether the story changed from Noema or whether the media changed it, different stories and different versions have been reported. As a very young mother myself once upon a time, some of it frankly sounds like hooey. Maybe that’s from dishonesty and maybe it’s just someone trying to avoid “getting in trouble”. 2+2 do not equal 4 for me here. My opinion.
 
That depends: if you asked that question in the days immediately following the disappearance, the answer is “a couple dozen basketball players on the court” plus at least 1, maybe 2, men (the abductor and a “witness” who saw him). Months later on the Dr P show, the number was amended to “4 little girls on the b-ball court” I believe.
By now I’m guessing she would have surfaced had a body of water in the park/near the park been fallen into. I still think she may have wandered off or ran too far and she could be in the woods nearby. My other thought (not a popular one but still my thought) is that maybe they never went as far as reported into the park to begin with. Maybe the kids wanted to saunter along from the park entrance/further away from the playground with their ice cream. Or maybe it was dripping all over in the backseat. Maybe they were let out of the car, Noema continued to park and then noticed only 1 child was at the play area after a time. That could mean she’s further back in the park than the woods surrounding the play area. Of course, it’s possible that some predator was hanging around the park as school was letting out, just hoping he’d see a child to grab. Of course the timing could be so precise that the car pulled in, the kids got out and walked 90 feet away, positioned themselves exactly behind a teeny hill, and before a lottery ticket could be scratched off, that predator swooped in and grabbed Dulce and exited with 4/24 kids seeing nothing. My opinion is the time is probably off by at least some. We know exactly when the family went to the store because there is video. We do not know exactly how fast they arrived at the park from there. We do not know if the kids were unsupervised for 3 minutes or 20 minutes. We do not know if the brother of Noema and the dog walked or drove to help search before 911 was called. There are a lot of possibilities and a lot of discrepancies here IMO. The story and details HAVE changed over the past 12 months. Whether the story changed from Noema or whether the media changed it, different stories and different versions have been reported. As a very young mother myself once upon a time, some of it frankly sounds like hooey. Maybe that’s from dishonesty and maybe it’s just someone trying to avoid “getting in trouble”. 2+2 do not equal 4 for me here. My opinion.

Oh for sure. There's so many issues with the various stories we've been brought with. I want little Dulce home. So many things lead to it NOT being just some random predator IMO. There's just something missing! How did this little girl just disappear. My heart aches and not many theories or evidence to go by..Just vanished without a trace. If anyone is familiar with Asha Degree's case, there are a lot of similarities. A part of me strongly believes Dulce is alive but another part of me knows how cold and ugly this world can be..
 
Oh for sure. There's so many issues with the various stories we've been brought with. I want little Dulce home. So many things lead to it NOT being just some random predator IMO. There's just something missing! How did this little girl just disappear. My heart aches and not many theories or evidence to go by..Just vanished without a trace. If anyone is familiar with Asha Degree's case, there are a lot of similarities. A part of me strongly believes Dulce is alive but another part of me knows how cold and ugly this world can be..
Agree. Some of the oddball statements made lead me to believe this is all subterfuge.

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It is always beneficial to watch the video interviews included with media links. The reporter's script is merely a recap. I have learned this time after time--but somehow I missed listening to this recent interview with the FBI agent involved in Dulce's investigation.

FBI agent Daniel Garrubrant, a missing child specialist involved in Dulce's case is interviewed, and it is obvious to me that after a year investigation, he thinks Dulce was a victim of an untargeted abduction and that this case is a crime of opportunity. Of course, when asked, he says they are open to any other possibilities, but I am not likely to second guess an expert in this field who has been deeply involved, and knows more about Dulce's case than I do. It is apparent that Noema and Dulce's family have been extensively questioned and investigated before LE arrived at this theory on an untargeted, random abduction due to a crime of opportunity.

The sketch of the Hispanic man, drawn from a park witness has never contacted LE, and has never been identified. He was reported as being close to where Dulce was in the park. Other park visitors have checked in with LE in order to be cleared.

I've linked the article that includes his interview in case you have missed it. It is worth the time to listen to him, and form your own interpretation to how LE are treating this case.

Where is Dulce Alavez? Investigators still pursuing 'solid leads' in case of missing N.J. girl
 

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