AMBER ALERT NJ - Dulce Maria Alavez, 5, abducted at Bridgeton City Park, 16 Sept 2019

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*********I noticed different clothing descriptions reported. I now see msm reporting it. I hope they clear up confusion.


The most recent description of the girl’s clothing given in the newer report varies slightly from the descriptions provided in earlier reports, but appears to matching the clothing worn in the police-issued surveillance image. It is not clear at this time why the earlier descriptions of her clothing does not match what she was wearing in the surveillance photos. Dolce is now believed to have been wearing a yellow shirt with an elephant print, black and white pants, and white shoes.
‘They think I did something to her’: Mom of missing 5-year-old girl says police believe her family is involved in suspected abduction
 
Stormy415 said:
Police examining videos in search for 5-year-old Dulce Alavez

The last from NJ.com
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From your link:
Gaimari acknowledged that difficult questions must be asked if they are going to find the missing child.

“Anytime that we have something like this … there’s a lot of reported child abductions that turn out to be family members or children that were involved in some type of custody dispute,” he said. “I’m not saying that’s the case here at all. However, it’s something that the police have to investigate.

“Sometimes tough questions have to be asked during an interview. People take offense to that because they feel you are implicating a family member or a significant other, but they’re just questions we have to clear up.”
Police examining videos in search for 5-year-old Dulce Alavez
IMO that makes perfect sense; LE has to explore all possibilities and that can be distressing to an innocent parent. In the last few years of following cases I've learned that LE almost always conducts a dual investigation, as others here have also noted.

Right now the information we have points to an actual abduction. What we don't know is whether or not that person knows the family. I'm sure more will come out soon but IMO it's not looking good for little Dulce - 48 hours is a long time.

Oh, and to add - WS is giving me trouble too and a lot of my "likes" aren't going through so y'all just consider your posts "liked" by me. :)
 
Thank you for saying this OBE! I agree 100% with everything you said.

When the police are 100% certain the parent/s are not involved in the disappearance or murder of a child, it is in humane to let/make them think they are. IMO.

The disappearance of a child would cause me to be hysterical and the more LE caused me to think I was to blame, the more medicated I would need to be! My heart always goes out to these parents who truly have a child abducted or murdered. It has to be a nightmare that is never over!
 
I completely disagree. This can be done safely and might be one of the only ways a mom can get a few minutes to herself. I did it myself when my kids were younger. I was still watching them, eyes on them, ears listening, the whole time, but I could sit in a few minutes of relative quiet while they burned off some energy.

Obviously it depends on how far the play area is from the vehicle and other circumstances, but it’s not fair to say this should never be done .
 
“Well, it’s really much more harder for us because they’re judging us that we have something to do with it, when we don’t. We might not show emotion or things like that but it’s because we’re trying to be strong for her. We just want her back home,” Alavez Perez said.

“We as a family, we feel really sad and really bad for not finding my niece. We don’t know who took her, who’s with her, how she is doing and everything. The only thing we’re trying to do is find her,” Alavez Perez said.

“We don’t have any solid suspects,” Bridgeton Police Chief Michael Gaimari said. “We’re investigating all the possibilities.”

“We were able to locate those witnesses through the department’s body cams and MVRs and we were able to relocate those witnesses and we’re still continuing to locate witnesses,” Gaimari said.
Family Says Social Media Accusations They Are Involved In Abduction Of 5-Year-Old Dulce Maria Alavez Are Untrue
 
So hard to know.... if this was a stranger abduction and the witness didn't perceive any danger, distress or force, did little Dulce know this person? Or was she lured in a way that made her trust this man? or is she a generally trusting child who just does what someone says to do?
Hoping it is a family issue, but unfortunately I'm leaning to a stranger abduction.
As for the mother appearing calm, it's possible she just doesn't think of worse case scenarios....
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“People think I’m not going crazy enough,” said Alavez Perez, 19, as she sat in her parent’s Bridgeton house Wednesday morning, moments after returning from a church where she prayed for the child’s return.

She recounted how on Tuesday, having not eaten for 36 hours, she accepted a slice of pizza from a family member as she stood in Bridgeton City Park, the site of the abduction, and was approached by a stranger who had volunteered to search for the child.

“'If my daughter was missing, I wouldn’t eat,' this lady yelled at me," said Alavez Perez, a Bridgeton native. “Then she started taking a video of me. My mother told me not to go back to the park because everyone is talking bad about me.”

Even authorities have been suspicious, she said. “The police tell me, ‘If you know where she is, tell us.’ But I told them everything. They think I’m lying; I’m telling the truth.”

While Alavez Perez spoke with her sister about the little girl’s homework in the parking lot, Dulce and Manuel ran toward the swings on the playground about 30 yards away. They were out of sight for fewer than three minutes when Manuel ran back, crying and pointing to a spot near park buildings, she said.

She called her brother and told him to bring Lalo, the family’s 8-month-old pitbull-boxer cross, to search for Dulce, and she phoned police.

Her parents — who have reversed last names, Norma Perez Alavez and Camilo Alavez Perez — emigrated from Mexico 20 years ago. The father works in a nursery, the mother in a food factory.

While Dulce and Manuel live in the family house, Alavez Perez does not.

She said she and her mother fought. “My mom kicked me out,” she said. “I was angry so much and not helping out. But because I had Dulce when I was 14, my parents loved her like she was their daughter and took official custody of her. I’m OK with it.”

Alavez Perez lives in a room in a nearby house. She said she neither works, nor is in school.

Dulce’s father, she said, is from Mexico and, after being with Alavez Perez in New Jersey for a while, returned there to study at a university in Sinaloa. “He’s finishing his studies so he could give a better life to my daughter,” she said.
More @:
Mother of 5-year-old South Jersey girl apparently abducted in Bridgeton park grieves and waits

***I hope this doesn’t post 15 times. It might. WS traffic alert.
 
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imstilla.grandma said:
“People think I’m not going crazy enough,” said Alavez Perez, 19, as she sat in her parent’s Bridgeton house Wednesday morning, moments after returning from a church where she prayed for the child’s return.

She recounted how on Tuesday, having not eaten for 36 hours, she accepted a slice of pizza from a family member as she stood in Bridgeton City Park, the site of the abduction, and was approached by a stranger who had volunteered to search for the child.

“'If my daughter was missing, I wouldn’t eat,' this lady yelled at me," said Alavez Perez, a Bridgeton native. “Then she started taking a video of me. My mother told me not to go back to the park because everyone is talking bad about me.”

Even authorities have been suspicious, she said. “The police tell me, ‘If you know where she is, tell us.’ But I told them everything. They think I’m lying; I’m telling the truth.”

While Alavez Perez spoke with her sister about the little girl’s homework in the parking lot, Dulce and Manuel ran toward the swings on the playground about 30 yards away. They were out of sight for fewer than three minutes when Manuel ran back, crying and pointing to a spot near park buildings, she said.

She called her brother and told him to bring Lalo, the family’s 8-month-old pitbull-boxer cross, to search for Dulce, and she phoned police.

Her parents — who have reversed last names, Norma Perez Alavez and Camilo Alavez Perez — emigrated from Mexico 20 years ago. The father works in a nursery, the mother in a food factory.

While Dulce and Manuel live in the family house, Alavez Perez does not.

She said she and her mother fought. “My mom kicked me out,” she said. “I was angry so much and not helping out. But because I had Dulce when I was 14, my parents loved her like she was their daughter and took official custody of her. I’m OK with it.”

Alavez Perez lives in a room in a nearby house. She said she neither works, nor is in school.

Dulce’s father, she said, is from Mexico and, after being with Alavez Perez in New Jersey for a while, returned there to study at a university in Sinaloa. “He’s finishing his studies so he could give a better life to my daughter,” she said.
Mother of 5-year-old South Jersey girl apparently abducted in Bridgeton park grieves and waits

***I hope this doesn’t post 15 times. It might. WS traffic alert.
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This is the first glimmer of hope I’ve seen that this could be a family abduction. Please let it be. MOO
 
AzPistonsGirl said:
Disclaimer: I do not have children. HOWEVER, were I in this situation (as it has been reported) I would not worry for one second what anyone thought of me, I'd be too distressed trying to find my child. I would not care if they thought me guilty of something, like who cares what anyone thinks at a time like this???? I would not have time to care about anything but finding my baby. Is this the FB and soshil medya generation? it is all about how I look and what I present to the world???? Like, who cares, my baby is missing!!!!! smh
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I wouldn't care either, but remember the mom is 19. She may be a mother but she is still only 19. That may play a huge part of her overwhelmingly obvious concern of how she's being perceived by others. And that is normal for a 19 year old. Imo
 
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I personally think her age plus her culture combined can explain away a lot of her comments and behaviors <modsnip>. My husband is mexican and from my own personal experience emotions and even responses to physical pain are displayed ... differently. Perhaps what we consider a normal reaction to grief and pain is considered a sign of weakness in another culture. In a situation where you have completely lost control of everything, regaining control of your emotions and responses may be the only thing holding you together. JMO

ETA: plus, there are often grammatical mistakes when someone is not speaking their common language. If Spanish is her first language and English 2nd, then maybe that is the culprit. Idk.
 
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ManicMuggle83 said:
I wouldn't care either, but remember the mom is 19. She may be a mother but she is still only 19. That may play a huge part of her overwhelmingly obvious concern of how she's being perceived by others. And that is normal for a 19 year old. Imo
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I make no judgements. My oldest granddaughter is 19. I can’t imagine how uncontrollably distraught she would instantly become once the panic set in. That said, she would regain her composure; comply with LE and speak out for her child. She’s extremely mature and responsible. The definition of normal is a broad spectrum. imo
 
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