NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #3

[mpnola]

Yes, it's confusing. The picture below shows the location of the flashing light, circled in red:

This picture below shows the broken windows from where Paddock was actually shooting from:

Not only is the building reflective, but if you watch the full video, that light flashes in a consistent pattern. blink. blink. blink. blink. And it does not match up with the sounds of gunshots. My brother said it is a strobe light type light that was at a bachelor party. I don't know if that is what it actually is, but it is something of that nature. Definitely not gunshots. Unless it is with that cool new gas to solid type bullet that can go through glass and then turn into solid form. Like some of those ghost movies I saw when I was little!

 

[Gooddeeds]

Why would anyone offer up a million bucks in donations, for an interview with someone who has talked nonstop from day one? What else is left to say?

-EXACTLY!!! I wouldn’t be surprised if he also pitches a book deal somewhere along the way. Problem is he has little to no credibility. He has already said forthcoming things such as the ‘bubble bath-hairspray’, etc due to his brothers allergies. He has already talked about the ‘decency’ of his hardworking brother, his generosity towards the family and how much wealth he accumulated. I can’t imagine that he would now find anything dark to say about him. If so he would be considered non-compliant/withholding with the investigation if LE has already questioned him.

I don’t recall when he said he last saw his brother, but I don’t recall it being as recent as May. It was reported that SP treated him (Eric) and his son to a weekend for the 3 of them at a casino in May.

 

[enelram]

I happened upon an opinion on brother Eric's interviews done by a so-called body language expert.
" He was very melodramitic and his rambling was out of context. He displayed little empathy for the families, loved ones
and victims."

I still contend at least three of these Paddock boys inherited the mental defect or learned it growing up. ??. We don't know enough about the fourth to give an opinion.

 

[cady]

So, devastated Eric wants to cash in despite the fact that his brother "made him rich"......and the beat goes on..... JMO

 

[Shelby2]

Does he definitely have ties to the Boston area or are they just looking for them?

 

[enelram]

BBM,

He reads manic to me. In both interviews. Intense Anxiety can also read this way. But the second interview presents the same way, if not worse. We don't know enough about him to say, but yeah, he really does sound manic. Speech is pressured. Thought Content is tangential. He perseverates on wealth. It is all off.

IMO

I've noticed in his more recent interviews (he's local to me so he's been on local TV numerous times) that he is wearing
regular glasses or sun glasses, so we can no longer watch his weird eye contortions.

 

[CARIIS]

Sure, the more lethal, the better. Gotta "protect" your family ya know.........

Happens every time

 

[DatelineFan]

Kind of off topic, but I was with some friends last night. One, who works for a software company, is using their software to help the FBI with this investigation. It's a major project for them. When I spoke with them about the details they could share last night, it really hit me how much is going into this investigation. I could never even attempt to explain how this software works, but it's quite intriguing, and a main tool they are using right now. This is going to be incredibly thorough. I'm quite impressed!

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[kaen]

BBM I think it also means he didn't care who the victims were. Their politics, location, and taste in music had nothing to do with why he shot them.

I agree with this. I wonder if the booking of the other hotels concurrent with music venues gave him the opportunity to build his own internal commitment or get satisfaction on thinking about what he would eventually do. It seems like this was a twisted puzzle for destruction rather than revenge for beliefs or social/ethnic/race grouping.

It also fits that it didn't matter who his victims were b/c he was so far away and wouldn't be able to identify any of them.

 

[PrairieWind]

So, devastated Eric wants to cash in despite the fact that his brother "made him rich"......and the beat goes on..... JMO

I don't think Eric is trying to cash in, is he? I think he is trying to raise money for victims. I am sure the shooter's family is horrified by what their family member has done, and is just trying to do something to help. Sure, its misguided and it sort of sounds sleazy, but I think he made it with good intentions.

 

[mister happy]

Not only is the building reflective, but if you watch the full video, that light flashes in a consistent pattern. blink. blink. blink. blink. And it does not match up with the sounds of gunshots. My brother said it is a strobe light type light that was at a bachelor party. I don't know if that is what it actually is, but it is something of that nature. Definitely not gunshots. Unless it is with that cool new gas to solid type bullet that can go through glass and then turn into solid form. Like some of those ghost movies I saw when I was little!

Yep. The general consensus is that is was a strobe light. I've removed my post with the link to the "red herring" video.

 

[PrairieWind]

Ok, after reviewing everything i could find, I see NO evidence of muzzle flashes from other shoots. I don't think shots were fired from anywhere but the 32nd floor of the Mandalay. I also think the "2 guests" room service reciept is substantially explained and is not related to the shooter. That receipt clearly was for another couple that stayed in the suite prior to the shooter checking in. That employee that released it should be ashamed for putting it out there.

 

[CARIIS]

BBM,

He reads manic to me. In both interviews. Intense Anxiety can also read this way. But the second interview presents the same way, if not worse. We don't know enough about him to say, but yeah, he really does sound manic. Speech is pressured. Thought Content is tangential. He perseverates on wealth. It is all off.

IMO

I found him decomposing profoundly between the first and second interview.

He was really sliding on the second one

genetics is huge in diabetes cancer mental illness -- this was a a troubled gene pool

at a quiet level hope he does not get to where he wants to copy his older brother who he had serious fantasy bonds with

moo

and just like knives and cars as weapons this is now gonna be a fad smashing windows from high buildings and shooting

and it has a different component to it -- its actually like being bombed

 

[JaneEyre]

But he didn't actually shoot anyone in this other venues. So it might have made a difference to him since this is the one time and place he actually began killing people.

I have a feeling it was all because of timing and planning. He realized at some point he would need to get MD out of town and get her set up with money somehow. He also may have realized as he scoped things out that initial plans may not have worked. He improved on his ideas each time, realizing more prep was needed.

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[komodo]

Hiya KOMODO Nice to have you here! :welcome4::welcome4: For a first post, you squarely "hit the nail on the head." I sure wish I could look at his tax returns and match them up with his real estate transactions......
One of my first questions would be, why pay 396K cash for a house, when he could have gotten a loan at 3 1/2%?? If he was such a "good and successful gambler" he no doubt would make more than 3 1/2% at a casino, or why bother? (Hope that makes sense)
Even if you own a building....one still has taxes, insurance, upkeep, gardeners, repairs, common utilities, mgmt fees, vacancy factors etc. Sure real estate investing can produce positive cash flow (usually better than a CD.). I just can't wrap my head around him having a sustainable source....at least not enough for a gambler's lifestyle.
Maybe he got a recent tax bill for not reporting recaptured depreciation.....or deferred capital gains finally caught up with him?
The sheriff (gotta be tired) implied there might be a "political angle" in this.....obviously no one was depriving him of his 2nd Amendment Rights....so what was it?

Thanks for the heads up. Well the financial angle was strange to me from the beginning. And then some sources even named him as a multimillionaire, then he was mathematical genius-poker player, and then you look at the pictures and there is just this obese guy in flip-flops feasting on food and drinks.
Also a question for the people in the know - is there a way to make money on video poker, aren't the machines "rigged" to give casinos an edge? (even more so than all the other casino games)

 

[KMouse]

I found him decomposing profoundly between the first and second interview.

He was really sliding on the second one

genetics is huge in diabetes cancer mental illness -- this was a a troubled gene pool

at a quiet level hope he does not get to where he wants to copy his older brother who he had serious fantasy bonds with

moo

and just like knives and cars as weapons this is now gonna be a fad smashing windows from high buildings and shooting

and it has a different component to it -- its actually like being bombed

My husband said that, as if the terrorists/crazies needed any more ideas. i.e. elevated shooters

 

[scmom]

How the Las Vegas shooter foiled a well-drilled counter-terrorism plan

“Our officers showed incredible restraint. They can fire that distance. It’s not safe to do so,” said Robert Chamberlin, a member of the Las Vegas police department’s counter-terrorism force. “You are firing 32 floors up, from 500 meters (yards). So the trajectory of our rounds...even if we were accurate, they’re going to go up into the ceiling, up into the next floor.”

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-l...-drilled-counter-terrorism-plan-idUSKBN1CA29N

 

[oceanblueeyes]

It was just an idea. If he could have been sure of being able to nip across the border without being stopped he could have been there by road by morning, but with the risk that he would already have been identified as the gunman and picked up as he tried to cross the border. Maybe he had a false passport and was planning to disguise himself. He had the money to be able to buy a false passport, after all.

I suspect we're going to find out he had unknown assets and resources. Maybe he still had access to a plane. Maybe vehicles that weren't associated with him. Maybe a boat that would get him out of the country by the back door.

He could have anticipated a watch for him at the Mexican border and looked for a less obvious way out of the country.

Maybe among his belongs they found one way airline tickets to a certain destination? There is so much we do not know that LE does know but will not tell us until the investigation is complete.

 

[PrairieWind]

I am very curious about the "escape" angle. It is hard to see how. I do think that the smoke alarm going off was perhaps something that he hadn't anticipated and gave away his exact location sooner than anticipated. And maybe the arrival of the regular police (not SWAT) team prevented him from slipping away. Not sure. You don't suppose he was planning to go out the windows do you? 300 feet up, its just high enough for a base jump. But that seems a bit far fetched. If that was the case, what stopped him?

 

[CARIIS]

IMO the most stunning memoir of depression

All

Many many more - his writing was breathtaking

“A phenomenon that a number of people have noted while in deep depression is the sense of being accompanied by a second self — a wraithlike observer who, not sharing the dementia of his double, is able to watch with dispassionate curiosity as his companion struggles against the oncoming disaster, or decides to embrace it. There is a theatrical quality about all this, and during the next several days, as I went about stolidly preparing for extinction, I couldn't shake off a sense of melodrama — a melodrama in which I, the victim-to-be of self-murder, was both the solitary actor and lone member of the audience.”
― William Styron, Darkness Visible: A Memoir of Madness
tags: darkness, depression, suicide
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“In depression this faith in deliverance, in ultimate restoration, is absent. The pain is unrelenting, and what makes the condition intolerable is the foreknowledge that no remedy will come- not in a day, an hour, a month, or a minute. If there is mild relief, one knows that it is only temporary; more pain will follow. It is hopelessness even more than pain that crushes the soul. So the decision-making of daily life involves not, as in normal affairs, shifting from one annoying situation to another less annoying- or from discomfort to relative comfort, or from boredom to activity- but moving from pain to pain. One does not abandon, even briefly, one’s bed of nails, but is attached to it wherever one goes. And this results in a striking experience- one which I have called, borrowing military terminology, the situation of the walking wounded. For in virtually any other serious sickness, a patient who felt similar devistation would by lying flat in bed, possibly sedated and hooked up to the tubes and wires of life-support systems, but at the very least in a posture of repose and in an isolated setting. His invalidism would be necessary, unquestioned and honorably attained. However, the sufferer from depression has no such option and therefore finds himself, like a walking casualty of war, thrust into the most intolerable social and family situations. There he must, despite the anguish devouring his brain, present a face approximating the one that is associated with ordinary events and companionship. He must try to utter small talk, and be responsive to questions, and knowingly nod and frown and, God help him, even smile. But it is a fierce trial attempting to speak a few simple words.”
― William Styron, Darkness Visible: A Memoir of Madness
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“The pain of severe depression is quite unimaginable to those who have not suffered it, and it kills in many instances because its anguish can no longer be borne. The prevention of many suicides will continue to be hindered until there is a general awareness of the nature of this pain.”
― William Styron, Darkness Visible: A Memoir of Madness
tags: anguish, awareness, depressed, depression, mental-health, mental-illness, pain, prevention,psychology, suffering, suicide
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“Depression is a disorder of mood, so mysteriously painful and elusive in the way it becomes known to the self -- to the mediating intellect-- as to verge close to being beyond description. It thus remains nearly incomprehensible to those who have not experienced it in its extreme mode.”
― William Styron, Darkness Visible: A Memoir of Madness
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“The madness of depression is, generally speaking, the antithesis of violence. It is a storm indeed, but a storm of murk. Soon evident are the slowed-down responses, near paralysis, psychic energy throttled back close to zero. Ultimately, the body is affected and feels sapped, drained.”
― William Styron, Darkness Visible: A Memoir of Madness
tags: depression, depression-quotes
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“When I was first aware that I had been laid low by the disease, I felt a need, among other things, to register a strong protest against the word "depression." Depression, most people know, used to be termed "melancholia," a word which appears in English as the year 1303 and crops up more than once in Chaucer, who in his usage seemed to be aware of its pathological nuances. "Melancholia" would still appear to be a far more apt and evocative word for the blacker forms of the disorder, but it was usurped by a noun with a blank tonality and lacking any magisterial presence, used indifferently to describe an economic decline or a rut in the ground, a true wimp of a word for such a major illness.

It may be that the scientist generally held responsible for its currency in modern times, a Johns Hopkins Medical School faculty member justly venerated -- the Swiss-born psychiatrist Adolf Meyer -- had a tin ear for the finer rhythms of English and therefore was unaware of the semantic damage he had inflicted for such a dreadful and raging disease. Nonetheless, for over seventy-five years the word has slithered innocuously through the language like a slug, leaving little trace of its intrinsic malevolence and preventing, by its insipidity, a general awareness of the horrible intensity of the disease when out of control.”
― William Styron, Darkness Visible: A Memoir of Madness
tags: depression
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“my brain had begun to endure its familiar siege: panic and dislocation, and a sense that my thought processes were being engulfed by a toxic and unnameable tide that obliterated any enjoyable response to the living world.”



― William Styron, Darkness Visible: A Memoir of Madness



https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/1258333-darkness-visible-a-memoir-of-madness