NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #4

[TXNurse77]

Doubtful. Earlier in the thread I posted a bunch of links regarding Vegas resorts and their surveillance cameras. Most only have cameras in the casino area. Some have by the elevators but many don’t. Most don’t have in the hotel hallways.

Maybe that’s part of the “What happens in Vegas” appeal? You can have intimate time in the hallway and no one has proof for posterity?

Frankly, I would think drunk folks staggering back to their rooms would warrant hallway cams!


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[Isabelle]

I am so sorry.

That is definitely not how I would describe this shooter's body.
I do know that the caliber does make a difference as well.
Also trajectory. Depending on the angle of the gun.

I know a guy who shot himself in the mouth and lived.
He needed serious facial reconstruction but didn't appear to lose any cognitive functions.
There are just so many variables it's hard to know.
I am confident they can find information from his autopsy though.

Had a DOA to the ER, years ago. Shot himself in the mouth. Not a drop of blood on his face or body. The top of his skull was cleanly ajar, just like a partly opened jewelry box. Crazy looking stuff.

 

[Gooddeeds]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/las-vegas-mandalay-room-below.html[/QUOTE]
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-Snipped from above article. Guest in room near Paddock.

Q: So you believe he was alternating from one window to the next?

A: Yeah, yeah.

Q: Which one did he shoot from more?

A: I really don’t know.

Q: Would you remember if it was mostly one or the other?

A: I would think so. Seemed like he was going back and forth.


-Q: Tell me about the waiting and wondering?

A: It was pretty well quiet after that, until they started breaching the room. There was an explosion-type noise. They used, like, a flash bang to breach the room. When they breached the 2135 room it was loud. When they breached the 134 room, it actually put me on the floor. It was really loud.

Q: There was a long stretch of time between the end of the shooting spree and the police entering the room. It’s unclear when the gunman shot himself. Did you hear any single gunshot?

A: (Pauses) No, not that I can be definite of. I know at one time before they breached the room, he shot down the hallway at an officer.

Q: You could hear it?

A: Yeah. but it wasn’t as defined. I could hear it. I did hear a few random shots here and there — at separate times, minutes apart. I remember hearing on the scanner that the officer had gotten shot. Heard that conversation going back and forth.

Q: But a single gunshot?

A: To be honest, I’m not sure. It’s entirely possible. There were never multiple semiautomatic type fire once the full-auto stuff stopped. It was pretty much silent. Just a few random shots.

Q: Did you call police or the hotel desk?

A: No, I didn’t. (Pauses) After I encountered the security in the hallway, I figured it didn’t matter. They were already there.

Q: The police were checking floor by floor. Did they come to your room?

A: I tried to leave my room at one point. And there were police and security in the hallway. I stuck my head out, and they said, “You need to stay in your room.”

Q: Were they panicked at all, aiming guns at you, or just calmly tell you?

A: I wouldn’t say they were freaked out, but there was a strong sense of urgency.

Q: Was that when the shooting was going on out the windows?

A: (Pauses.) I think it was still going on. It took me a little bit of time to get my clothes back on, grab some things and head out.

 

[Gooddeeds]

Maybe that’s part of the “What happens in Vegas” appeal? You can have intimate time in the hallway and no one has proof for posterity?

Frankly, I would think drunk folks staggering back to their rooms would warrant hallway cams!


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So true! This could be a game changer for Hotels in LV. If they have been able to keep return clients based on privacy ‘no cams’, this could jeopardize it. IMO I think all hotels have cams in some areas. It is critical for law suits and insurance protection.

We don’t know what The Mandalay has. A report said “the Union that covers the guard did not respond for comments”. The hotel may be doing their own P.I. Has anyone seen a designated Mandalay spokesperson talk about surveillance?

 

[bears10]

-This is the first im hearing about a guest right next door. It says the ‘second bedroom’ with the ‘other’ broken window??? That would be on the same side. Does it mean that SP took his neighbors room over? I’m confused...

I’m wondering if it’s just bad reporting all around. I feel like from the beginning it’s been questionable if he really had two rooms, or if it was just that he had the large suite that had a living area and a separate area with the bedroom. I remember being confused about this but so much has been changing I can’t keep track.

 

[bears10]

is

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/las-vegas-mandalay-room-below.html

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This is the guy below not next door

 

[CARIIS]

I’m wondering if it’s just bad reporting all around. I feel like from the beginning it’s been questionable if he really had two rooms, or if it was just that he had the large suite that had a living area and a separate area with the bedroom. I remember being confused about this but so much has been changing I can’t keep track.

There is a video allegedly of his exact room from like a year ago

 

[Gooddeeds]

Well, the neighbor said he was in 32134 and the NYT identifies that room number as the one we know has the other broken window, so I'm not sure what to think.

-Garden, that is a good article you found, I commented on it above. I hope it is in fact accurate because something about it is refreshingly different to me.

 

[kaen]

He was in town for a four-day conference, and assigned to Room 31-134.

He, of course, had no idea what was being planned directly over his head. Hours later, a man on the floor above — in the conjoined rooms of 32-134 (a standard room) and 32-135 (a 1,705-square-foot suite) opened fire on a crowd attending a country music concert across South Las Vegas Boulevard.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/u...oom-below.html

 

[bears10]

He was in town for a four-day conference, and assigned to Room 31-134.

He, of course, had no idea what was being planned directly over his head. Hours later, a man on the floor above — in the conjoined rooms of 32-134 (a standard room) and 32-135 (a 1,705-square-foot suite) opened fire on a crowd attending a country music concert across South Las Vegas Boulevard.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/u...oom-below.html

So he broke into the neighbors room? I am so confused lol

 

[Gooddeeds]

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This is the guy below not next door

My error: here is guy next door.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/wo...stralian-man-brian-hodge-20171002-gysy9v.html

“Hardcore': Las Vegas shooter 'in hotel room next door', says Australian man Brian Hodge

An Australian man believes the gunman responsible for a mass shooting in Las Vegas was staying in the room next door to him at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino.
New South Wales man and concert producer Brian Hodge, 36, said he ran for his life as hundreds of bullets sprayed into a music festival crowd from a balcony at the hotel as he walked back to his room from a dinner out with his staff.

 

[m00c0w]

Doubtful. Earlier in the thread I posted a bunch of links regarding Vegas resorts and their surveillance cameras. Most only have cameras in the casino area. Some have by the elevators but many don’t. Most don’t have in the hotel hallways.

I've seen pictures purportedly from Mandalay Bay's halls, and there were definitely cameras. I'll need to investigate.

 

[Gooddeeds]

So he broke into the neighbors room? I am so confused lol

*Neighbors below that he complained of night before (loud)
*Neighbor next door (window)
*Neighbor below?

Is this correct?

 

[Jax49]

Earlier article about man who says he rented room next door.

https://tenplay.com.au/news/nationa...-witnesses-speak-out-after-las-vegas-massacre

[h=3]A former Gold Coast man who was staying at the Mandalay Bay Resort has spoken about his close call with Las Vegas massacre gunman Stephen Paddock, who he claims launched his rapid-fire shooting rampage from the hotel room next door.[/h]Brian Hodge says he was in room 32134, while Paddock was in room 32135 – when the shooting began, Mr Hodge realised “It was a machine gun in the room next to me”.

Details seem very different from newer stories. moo

 

[Gardenista]

-Garden, that is a good article you found, I commented on it above. I hope it is in fact accurate because something about it is refreshingly different to me.

That's the guy who was staying below him. I just posted that link for someone else. The guy who stayed right next door to him is Brian Hodge and I posted an article about him too. Here it is

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/wo...stralian-man-brian-hodge-20171002-gysy9v.html

 

[bears10]

Earlier article about man who says he rented room next door.

https://tenplay.com.au/news/nationa...-witnesses-speak-out-after-las-vegas-massacre



Details seem very different from newer stories. moo

He also said that there were multiple shooters but later retracted the statement

http://www.pressherald.com/2017/10/07/not-real-news-a-look-at-what-didnt-happen-this-week/

 

[Gooddeeds]

I wonder if they swabbed security guard Campos for gunshot residue...



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-I haven’t seen anything on him yet. Interview, giving an account, etc.

This is what I read:
“The Union associated with the security guard did not respond for comments”.

 

[Gooddeeds]

That's the guy who was staying below him. I just posted that link for someone else. The guy who stayed right next door to him is Brian Hodge and I posted an article about him too. Here it is

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/wo...stralian-man-brian-hodge-20171002-gysy9v.html

-Thanks Garden for providing both of these, more than once

 

[human]

To keep them playing. Remember there is also a lot of losing that goes along with that winning. The casinos count on the losing. Getting the comps allows gamblers to feel like they are winning. Casinos try to out do each other to keep big gamblers. Casinos never want a winner to leave.

They have to have data on if someone is wnning or losing. He had to have some major losses to keep getting perks.

Obviously he had money cuz he paid cadh for lots of stuff. I wonder how much he lost in relation to wins

There are such varying reports of his drinking. He sure couldn’t be sharp drinking.

 

[Gooddeeds]

There are the 2 individual guest Hodge and Conrad. I can’t recall the 3rd name of the guest who SP made a complaint about the noise being too loud?