NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #6

[canadiangirl]

No. If you go back and read my post just before this one you will understand why I brought it up as a possibility. There are many reasons to do this, and anxiety and OCD are just a couple of them.

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I just asked because you're not the only one I've seen mentioning this..

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[CARIIS]

From the onset I have never understood any of this union stuff.

For a week and half he was a hero --
yet management felt he needed 24/7 instantly.

Heros dont need an army guarding him.

Those that say there are tons of people who want to hurt him - no one has accused him of anything.



The real question IMO here ought to be why and who are paying for 24/7 coverage from the beginning

from the beginning

for some reason that is being ignored now and was never asked in the beginning -- why does a shot employee need the secret service type stuff??

Because - at some level someone wants him something not discovered ............ its actually not protecting him its protecting others by keeping him from talking

that ought to be clear by the last minute flee from the media -- that according to the union dude befuddled him as well.

They had just spent days grooming him for for interviews and poof

that does not sound like his personal choice to me

at the last minute some entity with power intervened,

Unless someone is a millionaire most people do not have the financial capability to just vanish.

Someone is housing him . Why is some entity housing him ?

They have not even come out on there own and said jesus has decided.....................

the way it is left is he vanished and no one knows where he is

In regular life that is called a missing person!

LE usually intervenes when people vanish!

Its insane stuff

During Pulse did we see an FBI dude lurking about and not saying a word?

What is FBI purpose .

Trust your gut. The FBI behavior from day one has been atypical from the get go.

moo

 

[canadiangirl]

I’m aware. Authorities have said he was found with her identification. I only remember hearing it was an employee ID card briefly in the very beginning.

When memories are the freshest and not tainted

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[MistyWaters]

If the venue wasn’t up to code that opens the door for liability. I believe the venue is owned by MGM.

My apologies, just ignore me if someone already replied but if not, according to one of the lawsuits filed the festival was hosted by Live Nation Entertainment. However you may be correct that MGM owned the site.

In addition to MGM....."Other defendants named in the lawsuit are Live Nation Entertainment, the concert host; Slide Fire Solutions, a Texas company that manufactures bump stocks; and Paddock’s estate."
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...r-requiring-mgm-resorts-to-preserve-evidence/

 

[bears10]

From the onset I have never understood any of this union stuff.

For a week and half he was a hero --
yet management felt he needed 24/7 instantly.

Heros dont need an army guarding him.

Those that say there are tons of people who want to hurt him - no one has accused him of anything.



The real question IMO here ought to be why and who are paying for 24/7 coverage from the beginning

from the beginning

for some reason that is being ignored now and was never asked in the beginning -- why does a shot employee need the secret service type stuff??

Because - at some level someone wants him something not discovered ............ its actually not protecting him its protecting others by keeping him from talking

that ought to be clear by the last minute flee from the media -- that according to the union dude befuddled him as well.

They had just spent days grooming him for for interviews and poof

that does not sound like his personal choice to me

at the last minute some entity with power intervened,

Unless someone is a millionaire most people do not have the financial capability to just vanish.

Someone is housing him . Why is some entity housing him ?

They have not even come out on there own and said jesus has decided.....................

the way it is left is he vanished and no one knows where he is

In regular life that is called a missing person!

LE usually intervenes when people vanish!

Its insane stuff

During Pulse did we see an FBI dude lurking about and not saying a word?

What is FBI purpose .

Trust your gut. The FBI behavior from day one has been atypical from the get go.

moo

Someone made a fake website with a fake article saying he was the killer. Maybe he has PTSD. Maybe there are people threatening him, we don’t know that. Maybe he has security because of whack jobs like the reporter LL who showed up at his house.

ETA - it seems like a broken record, explaining why it’s not so outrageous for him to have security.

 

[MistyWaters]

Dear Mistywaters,

Thank you for sharing that "a truck mowed the fence down in order to provide a quicker way to help people to get out."

I missed reading that and it makes me wonder how many more lives were saved because of this.

Thank you

You're welcome. I'll try find the actual article tomorrow.

 

[CARIIS]

I agree tht there can be different sounds coming from different guns. We also know that he had up to 10 guns and shooting out two different windows.
My concern is that people are popping up in youtube giving thier take on the sounds. How do we verify the real ones from the fakes that may be out there with thier own Agenda? How can we verify that they are not manipulating the sounds?

Respectfully IMO

As a society we have some very serious soul searching to do when we are telling 1000's of victims who have been mauled if they are doing something as an agenda.

Its like Americans think that other Americans are running home and doctoring videos
after they have been machine gunned at.

The only definition of that is paranoia imo.

The videos that are out there were up while it was still happening .

How on earth can none of the videos be a authentic recording of what was experienced.

People are in pain and recovering physically and mentally and it seems as if many are afraid the victims are out to manipulate the rest of the world .

The real question is exactly what agenda do 1000's of people who have been shot at have.

Exactly what is there agenda to report that there were more than on e person shooting at them and those around them ?

What would there reason be ?

What is the agenda I am baffled honeslty

Behavior usually has a need of some sort attached to it . That is not negative.

What is the gain for people to lie and make up that they know there were more than one shooters

What is the gain

What is the motivation for all these thousands of people to clearly state such ?

Agendas IMO are not lurking around every corner!!!

But at a deep level our country has really turned into a very non trusting place

moo

 

[Gooddeeds]

ABC News reported that Danley’s “relationship with Paddock changed over time, evolving from intimate companion to more of a caretaker for him.”

told investigators in Los Angeles she had no concerns about [Paddock’s] mental health.”

More confusing info here !!

https://www.metro.us/news/the-big-stories/latest-marilou-danley-girlfriend-stephen-paddock

-That’s a bit of new info. A caretaker? Was a disability for SP ruled out?

 

[Gooddeeds]

I haven’t seen any sources that say there are cameras in every casinos hotel hallways, some maybe not visible. Everything I’ve seen and posted states the opposite for almost all of the resorts.

-They are not going to say it. Only under oath if it works for them.

 

[canadiangirl]

-They are not going to say it. Only under oath if it works for them.

I'll be honest. I've not heard of a large hotel that doesn't have it in 2017.
I've worked in a few myself and even then they had this

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[MistyWaters]

Why does a lone gunman need multiple cell phones?
I know people who carry second batteries, spare chargers etc
The only people I've heard of that carry lots of phones are people who need "burner" phones. Moo

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Just thinking the function of cellphones is far beyond mere phonecalls. I noticed no mention of a computer amongst his artillery. We know of at least two cameras rigged to view outside the suite, on the food cart and the peephole. Each would've needed a connection to a screen to view. Maybe one cellphone was connected to each? Another to follow police scanners, news, twitter....?

 

[bears10]

-They are not going to say it. Only under oath if it works for them.

I would imagine that’s probably one of the easier things to prove in this case. They either exist or they don’t. If they exist there will be receipts, electrical wiring, oh and cameras, whether they’re hidden or not.

 

[CARIIS]

-I am too m00c0w. And it may originate from me if I incorrectly posted a response to you, from a post with you and Betty. Sorry if i’ve caused the confusion.

Ok guys dont start using LE tactics on us and confusing everything --- leave that to LE !!!

ha

 

[CARIIS]

What proof do we have he was wealthy?

 

[Gooddeeds]

vanished?!

-In my opinion that is not the best word to use. Why doesn’t it include “Campos, the SG hero employed by MGM/MB has vanished”? I don’t know how that term would get past the high powered Crisis firm for MB. Employees vanishing...???
“JC the SG hero employed by MB has not been available for comment” would sound more credible and favorable to Campos.

 

[CARIIS]

The alt/right reporter who has been stalking him and the sheriff worked for him. She trained with him and is a supporter.

Its amazing all you guys know all these people.

Then I thought that might be a problem.

In our day we had NBC ABC CBS-- that's it

The nightly news came on at 6 and 11

stories had no opinions -- just the facts

it was actually quite simple!!!

 

[MistyWaters]

Why did he need 15+ guns (I don’t remember the number off hand)? He clearly was paranoid

Along with thousands of rounds of ammunition as well.

 

[Gooddeeds]

What proof do we have he was wealthy?

-what do we know about his banking financial portfolio/institution? any word on that?

 

[CARIIS]

The alt/right reporter who has been stalking him and the sheriff worked for him. She trained with him and is a supporter.

Ahhh I just looked him up he goes around stalking people and recording them !!

We used to call that spying !!

And rude!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O'Keefe

 

[CARIIS]

-Agree! Sorta like waiting for an airline company that crashed with major injuries some death, to speak/give a statement of acknowledgment....2 weeks...and nothing close to it.

I think they are pretty well done with telling us anything guys.............

It already vanished .........

they got out there tale --- \\

well see moo