neverletgo
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Where is Steven Koecher?
Where is Steven Koecher?
The thing that I find most disconcerting is that I am not sure that LE has completely checked out a person very close to SK that has a criminal history. SK owed money to his LL, and it makes the most sense if Steven was trying to find a way to pay his rent.
From his family, friends, ward members, and those that actually knew Steven, I think it is a VERY long shot that he was gay and wanted out of the LDS faith. I know that this theory is one that needs to be discussed, but I find this one to be very hard to believe. I am LDS, and I do know those that have wanted out of our faith, but this case doesn't really sit like that with me. The signs for wanting out of the faith are just not there in Steven's case. JMHO
I wish that LE had taken his disappearance with more Umph in the beginning. I think that critical time passed; and I still doubt that a thorough investigation has happened. I really hate the fact that LE seems to take the disappearance of young men less seriously than beautiful young girls. I think there is every chance that young men can meet with foul play too.
I still hope that answers come one day, but I will be honest in saying that any answers may not ever come. We need a truly gifted and tenacious investigator to break this case IMHO.
Hi I pretty much joined solely to answer your query. Dont know if anyone here actually does stuff with the information.
Having seen the last video of Steven there are two things I can tell you. One for certain, the second highly likely.
1) Definitely he had been there before!
2) Most likely it was a business related rather than a social meeting.
Why? As a sales director of many years I have accompanied hundreds of thousands of salesmen on sales visits. You can just instantly tell if the salesman has been to a place before from how he acts and walks. For example, Stevens car did not cruise hesitantly up and down the street looking for exactly where to go. There was no gradual peering at door numbers or stop starting. He also knew without worrying where he could easily park nearby.
Then as he walks away from the car he knows EXACTLY where he is going and again there is no checking door numbers to find how far he is from his destination. These are just the obvious indicators, but there is also the feel that comes with years of experience of doing this. I KNOW when a colleague is kidding me about where he has and hasnt been in the past. Steven had been there before! (It may be irrelevant, or you may profit by going further back on your CCTV or other records)
The second point. Why was it business related? Well he waited six minutes in his car. Thats what you do if you are visiting a business appointment. I have done it with my guys all my life. You get there early, wait in your car until a few minutes before the appointment and then walk in the door with a couple of minutes to spare. If it is a social call, you pull up in their driveway or outside the house and go straight in.
That second point is also another indicator that he had been there before. He could judge the journey time to arrive six minutes before the appointment. He did not arrive there half an hour in advance.
I am not suggesting Steven was selling anything, thats simply where my historical expertise comes from.
This may be of no use at all or may offer you something else.
With that knowledge I would humbly suggest that all anyone has to do is see what media he was using to look for jobs in the previous 3 weeks. Go through that particular media (website, newspapers, whatever) and by a long process of elimination, somewhere among those will be a phone number that relates to one of the four houses on Evening Lights.
If Steven had concerns about his private life and how it might be interpreted by fellow LDS members he might not have exhibited signs of withdrawing from his church but rather afraid the church would withdraw from him. Not many people in our lives can truly say that they know who we associate with...unless they are with you 24-7. No one knows if this young man felt he was gay and worried how his church might treat him if they found out. There may be no signs that someone is gay, if that person doesn't want there to be signs. Churches of all kinds are very judgemental toward gays and most (churches) aren't tolerant at best. His church was a huge part of his life and he may have been afraid he would lose it. Hope I'm not rambling. Just sounds like something was going on besides financial issues with this young man before he disappeared.
I am new to this, but I have a couple of observations. Having LDS background, I think that if SK wanted to leave the church, when he moved to St. George, he would just not have gone to church there. His family back home would not have know whether he went to church or not. Why make the big move and not quit going to church if that is what he wanted.
Also, in reading some of the posts, it seems that he was a person who wanted to be guided by the spirit. That may explain some of his odd moves.
One more idea, what if someone had asked him to do some private editing for them? He may have been carrying a manuscript he was returning edited. He had posted on-line that he did this sort of thing.
Or what if he wanted to do some freelance writing and stumbled on something. I guess his computer would have indicated that, so probably not true.
I am new and don't know all that has been written, so just a couple of observations.
I am new to this, but I have a couple of observations. Having LDS background, I think that if SK wanted to leave the church, when he moved to St. George, he would just not have gone to church there. His family back home would not have know whether he went to church or not. Why make the big move and not quit going to church if that is what he wanted.
Also, in reading some of the posts, it seems that he was a person who wanted to be guided by the spirit. That may explain some of his odd moves.
One more idea, what if someone had asked him to do some private editing for them? He may have been carrying a manuscript he was returning edited. He had posted on-line that he did this sort of thing.
Or what if he wanted to do some freelance writing and stumbled on something. I guess his computer would have indicated that, so probably not true.
I am new and don't know all that has been written, so just a couple of observations.
My wife and I saw this case on Disappeared off of Netflix.
This case is truly baffling. As others have said, we can't imagine what the family must be going through, not knowing what happened to Steven.
I am curious though; on Disappeared they said that they were able to figure out his e-mail password and check his account. I know that didn't reveal anything suspicious. But were they able to check his private messages on his Facebook account? I've applied for jobs that I've found on Facebook, so maybe that's worth looking into, if it hasn't already. But, I'm guessing that it already has.
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I think that is a great idea. I am not sure if they have, but we have some insiders who still visit here-perhaps someone can give us their thoughts?