GUILTY NV - Tammy Meyers, 44, fatally shot at her Las Vegas home, 12 Feb 2015 - #2

[kimi_SFC]

If that was the case, it would be stated in the warrant. No way they did it without looking at their phones.

Agree to disagree. It takes time for those warrants to be processed from the carriers.

ETA: LE submits the requests and the carriers have their legal departments process it. It rarely happens in days.

The affidavit and declaration was composed prior to EN retaining counsel. Considering the number of cell phones and at least one land line that needs to be accessed and cross referenced - this is something we will see later in discovery at trial. More along the lines of the recently released search warrants in the McStay case (vs this case, which is in its infancy)

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[Ian]

I'm not sure that is exactly what he said.

But he did say exactly that twice to different media sources.

 

[Snoods]

Regarding questions as to where the first shots were fired, shell casings actually were recovered next to the school, in red between the two stars. Per the warrant.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zL0ttOittWuY.k2aOy3VTsvqM

 

[Gypsy Road]

I'm not sure that is exactly what he said.

I will try and find the video, but he said something like "We knew this person but we were not allowed to say"

 

[SStarr33]

I was posting from EN's paranoid point of view AND his own statements that people were 'after him and his mom and newborn.'
I also know how criminals tend to think and how normal families of victims behave.

You are some sort of a criminal/victim specialist?

 

[SStarr33]

I will try and find the video, but he said something like "We knew this person but we were not allowed to say"

Go back and listen to what he says and also re-listen to the police captain's presser.

 

[Hiandmighty]

This is one trial i would make a point to follow because i want to see what the defense atty does with the information. I expect a vigorous defense.

 

[Ian]

The freaking AP reported at the beginning of this that the Brandon and Bob came out of the house and were shooting at the suspects car.

This is mostly a media problem combined with a grief stricken family IMO.

I would love to see a link for that. Have not heard that spin yet at all.

 

[SStarr33]

Oh for crying out loud. How is he defending himself?
Meyers drove away from him to their own house. They were not after him at that point. This is getting ridiculous. You can't just follow someone to their house and shoot them, and then claim self-defense.

Agree. I seriously, don't understand this way of thinking.

 

[Miss Muffet]

Before you all run away with your "theory" how did mom end up getting shot if she wasn't in the car?
Per EN's story as relayed by his friends, he shot at the person in the car and at someone running away from the car.
He didn't claim somebody came running from the house.

Brandon said he pushed his mom back into the car. Then he says after the shooting he looks behind him and his mother is on the ground. He pushed his sister back into the car. Tammy came running out of the house, but turned around and hightailed back towards the house for cover when she realized the bullets were coming towards the house, not just her son shooting away from the house.

They say the sister was dropped off to pick up Brandon with the gun. That's to protect the sister because she's a minor, a kid who deserves to continue living her childhood. Also, by saying she was dropped off, it makes it easier for their stories to match because she can't be questioned about the shootings if she wasn't there. So really, saying mom was there instead of sister was done to protect sister.

 

[jjenny]

It explains to the father why he had his gun by saying his mother insisted he get it. The gun being kept in the grandmother's drawer is an indication the family wasn't comfortable with his having easy access to it, IMO.

Didn't we just establish that in Nevada one can get a gun at 18? It was reported repeatedly his gun was legally registered. And if we are not going to believe anything he says, why are we going to believe the gun was kept in grandma's drawer?

 

[Ian]

You are some sort of a criminal/victim specialist?

I do have some experience and training there yes. It was the bizarre behavior of the Meyer family that had me join this website. I have never seen anything like it before.

 

[jjenny]

Brandon said he pushed his mom back into the car. Then he says after the shooting he looks behind him and his mother is on the ground. He pushed his sister back into the car. Tammy came running out of the house, but turned around and hightailed back towards the house for cover when she realized the bullets were coming towards the house, not just her son shooting away from the house.

They say the sister was dropped off to pick up Brandon with the gun. That's to protect the sister because she's a minor, a kid who deserves to continue living her childhood. Also, by saying she was dropped off, it makes it easier for their stories to match because she can't be questioned about the shootings if she wasn't there. So really, saying mom was there instead of sister was done to protect sister.

Protect sister from what? If she were in the car when the car was shot at, how would that prevent her from living her childhood? Even Brandon isn't going to be charged with anything, and he admitted he shot at the silver car.

 

[rosie_lee]

CNN: Attorney: Road rage suspect 'feared for his life' http://cnn.it/1BhJUXT


This story appeared on Erin Burnett Outfront tonight.. Very interesting.

 

[jjenny]

Agree. I seriously, don't understand this way of thinking.

ITA. It really doesn't matter which two were at the car at any point of time. If mother was never in the car, came out and got shot, how is she not a victim?
I just don't understand why the two kids would claim mother was in the car if she wasn't. Brother could have easily said he was the one teaching sister how to drive. What do they need mother in the car for?

 

[Gypsy Road]

Go back and listen to what he says and also re-listen to the police captain's presser.

This is all I could find. http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/19/us/las-vegas-road-rage-killing/

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...as-vegas-road-rage-death-tammy-meyers-n309111

It sounds to me as if he did know who the suspect was. He clearly says he couldn't tell us that before - and neighbors say he had been knocking on Eric's door for days. Then later, police say they did not know the families knew each other.

 

[PaperDoll]

When TM and KM were driving around and after the Audi started giving them a bad time, I wonder why TM or KM didn't call the police, if they had their cell phones, telling them some car is giving them trouble. They could have called 911 when they said the driver got out of the car and told them he was coming after them. If that were me I think I would be on the phone to police while I'm trying to drive home, or better yet, a police station. I'm not sure I would drive home if I felt threatened. I for sure would NOT GO out looking for them once I got home.

 

[JaimeInLA]

ITA. It really doesn't matter which two were at the car at any point of time. If mother was never in the car, came out and got shot, how is she not a victim?
I just don't understand why the two kids would claim mother was in the car if she wasn't. Brother could have easily said he was the one teaching sister how to drive. What do they need mother in the car for?

Nobody is claiming TM isn't a victim. Literally not one person here has said that. What we are saying is that it just may be possible that there is more than one criminal.

 

[Miss Muffet]

Which sounds more like an organized crime/gang/supplier/distributor action rather than just ordinary neighborhood goings-on

Exactly! Who is to say they're not? My son moved out of state and ended up roommates with the son of someone involved in organized crime. Lots of crazy stuff happened within just a couple of months, and I went and brought my child home. The father ended up the subject of a grand jury investigation shortly afterwards. They were a normal looking upper middle class family from Massachusetts.

Has anyone checked to see if the family members have a criminal records in CA, NV or anywhere?

 

[SStarr33]

I would love to see a link for that. Have not heard that spin yet at all.

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2015/02/mother_teaching_daughter_to_dr.html

The AP said Meyers' husband and son came out of the house and returned fire at the fleeing car.