NY - Captured, escaped convicted killers, David Sweat & Richard Matt, Dannemora #8

[human]

Also from CNN

Sweat left Matt 5 days ago (believe from yesterday)

Interesting as I figured Matt as the more evil one. Seems like Sweat is far more evil.

He shot the LE and drove over him. He had said that he was sorry.

I had a tiny bit of compassion for him. Nope. He is bad to the bone

 

[monster12]

By the time I see something and try to post correctly...everyone else has already posted it 5 times...ha! Oh well.

 

[epiphany]

Also, earlier on CNN:

Erik, former inmate at CCF, was on again

Unless I heard incorrectly, today he named Palmer as one of the COs who brought in venison to share w/inmates, as well as one who talked w/inmates about their cabins & hunting trips.

When Erik had spoken about COs bringing in venison to inmates before, he had not specifically named Palmer. He said many did so.

 

[human]

I am going to try and find the pic of Matt. Have not seen it.

I told hubby about the thrre bullets to the head. Hubby was surprised as he said one would explode the head. Don't know as we have no real life experience with it. Ugh!

 

[Foxfire]

Until he's healthy enough to take a lie detector test, I'm not buying the Mexico story.

Polygraphs are seldom effective when interviewing psychopaths, imo. Truths and lies are synonymous to them.. SK Gary Ridgeway, was suspected early 1980s in the Green River murders, King Co., WA. He passed two polygraphs, was ruled out, and went on to take many more victim's lives until 11/2001 when identified due to dna technology upgrades.

 

[Greater Than]

@AlbanyMed: Statement on David Sweat's Condition from Albany Medical Center Medical Director Dennis P. McKenna, MD: https://t.co/m6JJ3GGdGI
[video=twitter;615546847281709056]https://twitter.com/albanymed/status/615546847281709056[/video]
Statement on David Sweat's Condition from Albany Medical Center Medical Director Dennis P. McKenna, MD:

David Sweat underwent diagnostic evaluations at Albany Medical Center Sunday night to further define the extent of his injuries. Following examination, it was determined by our trauma team that he did not require any surgeries at that time. The trauma team includes a trauma surgeon, an intensive care doctor, and other specialists. He was observed and treated for his injuries overnight. As of Monday morning (June 29), his condition has been upgraded to serious, reflecting an improvement from his condition Sunday night. David Sweat will remain at Albany Medical Center for at least a few days while his condition stabilizes and updates on his condition will be provided as appropriate. The New York State Police, working in coordination with the Albany Police, the Department of Corrections and the Albany Medical Center security staff are taking all appropriate measures to ensure the safety and security of our patients and their families, our employees, and the public.

 

[SBurrus]

HLN ‏@HLNTV now

#BREAKING - #DavidSweat told cops #JoyceMitchell was supposed to pick them up & they were planning to head to Mexico

Maybe drive 7 hours that would constitute Joyce's final 7 hours on earth...then be killed as they then traveled on to Mexico.

 

[human]

Also, earlier on CNN:

Erik, former inmate at CCF, was on again

Unless I heard incorrectly, today he named Palmer as one of the COs who brought in venison to share w/inmates, as well as one who talked w/inmates about their cabins & hunting trips.

When Erik had spoken about COs bringing in venison to inmates before, he had not specifically named Palmer. He said many did so.

I was not a believer of him as he said Sweat was the artist. So he was telling the truth.

Hopefully he has plenty of good info.

I cannot believe how it was allowed for anyone to bring food into the prison. In my school district, any food brought to school such as cupcakes for a child's birthday treat have to be store bought. That is to protect against any food poisoning issues .

However, we did have staff potlucks where people brought homemade food. Food borne illnesses are big deals in institutions. Meat is a biggie for contamination. Strange.

 

[GGE]

I thought I had a good idea about "Mexico", but Dannemora to Mexico, NY (near Buffalo and near the Canadian border) is only 3hr 45 min approx. It would be a little over 7 hours round trip for her but she thought she was going with them so.. I think that was just Matt telling nobody anything while making them stop asking questions. JMO.

 

[Foxfire]

Photo on Twitter circulating of a dead Richard Matt. Said to be real and reposted from a LEO Facebook page.
Shows Matt lying in a ditch with bullet wound to the head. If it's him, it looks like he was wearing camo clothing as well.

Osu, likely why they were assigned to the prison tailor department, imo. Indicates their intentions as to their escape plan too, imo.. You wouldn't need camo clothing unless you were headed straight to the woods..

 

[Greater Than]

Sweat actually disengaged from Matt about five days ago," the governor said. "Which answers why there was no DNA of Sweat in the last cabin that they were in or the previous cabin because Sweat felt that Matt was slowing him down as a matter of fact."

[...]

The governor also revealed that the original escape plot was for the men to drive to Mexico, where Matt served prison time, with prison worker Joyce Mitchell, who has been charged for allegedly aiding their escape. Mitchell allegedly was supposed to pick the two up outside the prison walls on the night of their escape.

"They would kill Mitchell's husband, then get in the car and drive to Mexico on the theory that Mitchell was in love with one or both of them," Cuomo said. "Then they would go live happily ever after, which is a fairy tale that I wasn't read as a child. But we all believe what we want to believe."

When Mitchell wasn't waiting for them, the two decided to head for Canada.

The details emerged after State Police investigators interviewed Sweat at Albany Medical Center, where he is in stable condition, according to the governor, after being shot twice by a State Police sergeant who spotted him in Constable, Franklin County, Sunday. It was not clear when that interview took place.

http://m.timesunion.com/news/article/Prison-guard-Gene-Palmer-to-return-to-court-in-6355185.php

 

[human]

I thought I had a good idea about "Mexico", but Dannemora to Mexico, NY (near Buffalo and near the Canadian border) is only 3hr 45 min approx. It would be a little over 7 hours round trip for her but she thought she was going with them so.. I think that was just Matt telling nobody anything while making them stop asking questions. JMO.

Hm ! Interesting, Any reason for them to go there?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico,_New_York

 

[GGE]

http://m.timesunion.com/news/article/Prison-guard-Gene-Palmer-to-return-to-court-in-6355185.php

Yeah he's full of it IMO. He didn't have a backpack with maps and bug spray in it and whatnot because he was getting a ride straight from the manhole to Mexico, IMO. Unless he happened across all of the supplies at the first cabin magically or something, since it says his DNA wasn't at the others, which I suppose is possible. JMO.

 

[atthelake]

I don't believe it. They would have never made it to Mexico, the whole country was looking for them and by mid day on Saturday it would have been known that Joyce was with them and what they were driving.

Pffft, all they had to do was to go to Starbucks and have some kids on skateboards turn the license plate upside down :floorlaugh for Jodi trial followers.)

 

[cubbeegirl]

FYI... There's a photo of when Matt was shot on Twitter. Didn't post it as I don't think it's MSM.

Gahhhh ! I hate twitter... can never find anything !

 

[GGE]

Hm ! Interesting, Any reason for them to go there?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico,_New_York

Not a clue, just looking for anything that might give any credibility to both of the statements (7 hrs drive/going to Mexico). I certainly can't reconcile them.

 

[LaneGirl]

hahaha that's a good one ATL.

 

[atthelake]

Yeah I'm sorry I've been moody today for no good reason (I had A reason but not a good one) and shouldn't have gotten mouthy/defensive/whatever all else. Sorry for the OTs as well (just catching up and see the mod note).

:grouphug: You are FAB on this thread :daisy:

:tyou:

I have 7 other cases here at WS and would LOVE for you to be on those threads too with your knowledge and lightening fast fingers!

:seeya:

 

[human]

Yeah he's full of it IMO. He didn't have a backpack with maps and bug spray in it and whatnot because he was getting a ride straight from the manhole to Mexico, IMO. Unless he happened across all of the supplies at the first cabin magically or something, since it says his DNA wasn't at the others, which I suppose is possible. JMO.

So where was he?

 

[cinsbythesea]

Keshia Clukey retweeted
Alexa Green ‏@AlexaTWCNews 41m41 minutes ago

Another picture painted by #DavidSweat which he sent to family while in prison #PrisonBreakNY

That's really nicely done. Wow! I bet he won't be seeing any paintbrushes any time soon...