NY NY - Ellery, Rte 17, WhtFem 30-37, UP15489 193UFNY, GSW, poss from Canada or Europe, note, clothes, Dec'83

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

Stupid me found this picture ones but forgot to give a name. Does anybody know who she is?

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I am a little late to this party, and you may already have found her, but the woman pictured is Mary C. Robinson, Bit of hope!

Mary C. Robinson – The Charley Project
Missing Person Case

Mary's WS thread: NY - NY - Mary Robinson, 23, Rochester, 10 June 1976

 

[Bit of hope]

I am a little late to this party, and you may already have found her, but the woman pictured is Mary C. Robinson, Bit of hope!

Mary C. Robinson – The Charley Project
Missing Person Case

Mary's WS thread: NY - NY - Mary Robinson, 23, Rochester, 10 June 1976

Thanks a lot Mrs. Badc...Actually I didn't find her yet. Looking at her now, I think she has a different nose. Besides of course the fact that the story is off.

 

[carbuff]

No. They know by the bones what gender a person is.

That's not necessarily true in cases of transgender remains. Even in ordinary remains bones can sometimes be misleading (a small-boned man mistaken for female, or an especially robust woman taken to be male, for instance). DNA will definitely identify the biological sex of the remains but doesn't tell what gender the person lived as.

 

[carbuff]

Unidentified Person Case

Updated Namus link. No ruleouts listed.

 

[coffeeandacig]

I did this recreation based off of the black and white sketch. The Princess Di hairstyle was popular for short hair, so...

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

I did this recreation based off of the black and white sketch. The Princess Di hairstyle was popular for short hair, so...

Great work there, coffeeandacig! Well done

 

[Find Brenda]

I did this recreation based off of the black and white sketch. The Princess Di hairstyle was popular for short hair, so...

Nice recon. Thank you for doing that. Do you have a larger image?

 

[Bit of hope]

Unidentified Person Case

Updated Namus link. No ruleouts listed.

Aha, they the note was near the body...but I'm sure I read somewhere that it was in her pocket....grrrr.

 

[Bit of hope]

I wish the Italian missing persons website Chi l'ha visto - Home Page had older cases, going back in the 70's...(have to check if there is something added) It's going back to 2008.

 

[Giuc0]

Aha, they the note was near the body...but I'm sure I read somewhere that it was in her pocket....grrrr.

In the pocket of her high-quality trench coat was a mysterious note scribbled on a notepad from a Vancouver hotel

Source : Mysterious New York cold case with Vancouver connection 'almost frozen', police say

 

[Giuc0]

I wish the Italian missing persons website Chi l'ha visto - Home Page had older cases, going back in the 70's...(have to check if there is something added)

Missing since 1975 : Chi l'ha Visto - Scomparsi - Rossella Corazzin - La scheda
Circumstances don't fit

Chi l'ha Visto - Misteri - Ottavia De Luise - La scheda
Same issue

More cases avalable on Doe Network, but still no match

 

[madamx]

I don't know if this woman has ever been posted here. If she was then Never mind. But I saw her and thought she looked like the drawing coffeeandcig came up with. There is another photo on the link I could not copy for some reason.

The Doe Network: Case File 164DFSK

June Ann Johnson
Missing since August 3, 1979 from Prince Albert, Saskatchewan, Canada
Classification: Missing

Vital Statistics

• • Date Of Birth: July 28, 1945
  • Age at Time of Disappearance: 34 years old
  • Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 163 cm (5'4"); 59 kg (130 lbs)
  • Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Black hair; brown eyes.
  • Marks, Scars: Unknown
  • Clothing: Unknown
  • Dentals: Available

Circumstances of Disappearance
June Johnson was last seen on the 3rd of August, 1979, when she was driven to the Marlboro Hotel in Prince Albert, SK by a family friend.

 

[coffeeandacig]

Nice recon. Thank you for doing that. Do you have a larger image?

Thank you Find Brenda! It was just a quick, small mock-up. I think I'd lose some definition if I did try to resize larger...sorry.

 

[coffeeandacig]

I don't know if this woman has ever been posted here. If she was then Never mind. But I saw her and thought she looked like the drawing coffeeandcig came up with. There is another photo on the link I could not copy for some reason.

The Doe Network: Case File 164DFSK
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• June Johnson was last seen on the 3rd of August, 1979, when she was driven to the Marlboro Hotel in Prince Albert, SK by a family friend.

Really interesting...She is the mother of a 14 year old and a 13 year old. UID is said to have given birth to at least one child 15 years previously.

 

[Giuc0]

Back to the friggin' note.

If they are phone numbers, they can't be Dutch numbers. See here for a sample Gevonden op Delpher - NRC Handelsblad

 

[madamx]

Really interesting...She is the mother of a 14 year old and a 13 year old. UID is said to have given birth to at least one child 15 years previously.

Oh wow I did not see that! I was looking at the stats and they seemed to fit.

 

[Alleykins]

June Johnson and this UID both have dentals available.
If it hasn't been done already, it should be submitted. Would be an easy rule in/rule out.

ETA: Easy meaning not so long or complicated as DNA would be to try to match between Canada and the US, but I don't believe UID has DNA, does she?

 

[Giuc0]

Back to the note.

I found an old archived ANC (African National Congress) of November 1983, one month before our JD was found.
They had offices in UK, Sweden, Italy... but not in France : http://www.sahistory.org.za/sites/default/files/DC/senov83/SeNov83.pdf

 

[carbuff]

Some articles about June Johnson and her disappearance:

SACP - SK Association of Chiefs of Police: June Ann JOHNSON

June Ann Johnson | August 3, 1979 | Age 34 | Missing | Prince Albert

Missing woman's daughter wants closure

Since she's Canadian, there wouldn't normally have been any automatic comparisons.

Interesting points: the daughter and her boyfriend were the ones who dropped Johnson off at the motel.

Johnson was apparently planning to spend the weekend with somebody she knew.

She was a nurse but had quit her job because she was planning to move to Winnipeg.

While there's an implication she was murdered when she disappeared, it looks to me like it's also possible she left with this guy and went to BC.

 

[madamx]

Some articles about June Johnson and her disappearance:

SACP - SK Association of Chiefs of Police: June Ann JOHNSON

June Ann Johnson | August 3, 1979 | Age 34 | Missing | Prince Albert

Missing woman's daughter wants closure

Since she's Canadian, there wouldn't normally have been any automatic comparisons.

Interesting points: the daughter and her boyfriend were the ones who dropped Johnson off at the motel.

Johnson was apparently planning to spend the weekend with somebody she knew.

She was a nurse but had quit her job because she was planning to move to Winnipeg.

While there's an implication she was murdered when she disappeared, it looks to me like it's also possible she left with this guy and went to BC.

Wow thanks carbuff for all of info sounds really interesting!

One thing that caught my eye in this link with a photo of June's Daughter and June's sister. They Both have raised moles on their faces. (I believe raised moles are hereditary)
I know it's Not mentioned on her missing profile if she had raised moles or not But I thought it was interesting because the UID had raised moles on her face. Unfortunately her photos are not clear enough to tell if she had raised moles either.

Another thing I noticed on the missing profile it says clothing unknown but then in one of your links it says the daughter remembers the clothing she wore. So that made me think maybe June had raised mole but just was not mentioned like the clothing she was wearing.

Below is the link with the photos
Missing woman's daughter wants closure