GUILTY NY - Evanna Tranberg-Bennett, 12, died, parents failed to get her medical care, 6 Dec 2019 Probation

[MsBetsy]

Oh the calumny! Remember how the family kept saying it was DSS Commissioner Gibson who was responsible for taking Evanna off life support? Well, that just changed. According to the family now it was an ex-employee of the DA's office. Seems like a lot of "facts" have changed recently. And they wonder why we question the posts? MOO.

I'm pretty sure they are the same person. Gibson is a former assistant DA, who took over as DSS commissioner after the former commissioner was arrested for DUI. Imo

 

[shotgun09]

There is a "new and improved" post up on the TB family FB page. Basically the same crud as before...the public needs to know that.....blah blah blah, and with obvious additions to the "story". I am trying to recover from the massive headache I got after reading it. What I can deter is that they still claim that EMS 'killed' Evanna, but now the Forensic Pathologists are named and accused as being part of 'the conspiracy' against the family.

There is an additional comment about how Steve's breathing was worse than Evanna's at the time. Just sayin, but I give a rat's patootie about SB's breathing!

Most appalling to me, is the partially copied autopsy report that discusses Evanna's 'private parts' . I understand that is part of her medical record, but for Pete's sake TB family .....Don't plaster it on the internet...and FB no less..for the world to see! This was posted, IMO for additional alarm and conspiracy blame game purposes. And, sadly they failed Evanna yet again.

Lastly, the family's most recent scholarly medical knowledge, coming from Wikipedia, Web Md and DoctorxDentist sure has me convinced.... Those scholarly archives will make awesome expert witnesses on the stand.

Their post is very long and wordy, enter at your own risk.

All, IMO

 

[Biggs_Darklighter_1977]

Other than their close family members and supporters. I just don't know who they are trying to convince with their posts. They assert that the county is going to all these efforts to protect EMTs that the family alleges killed their daughter. However, DSS and the emergency services are separate entities completely. It boggles the mind to somehow allege the removal of all the children and some of them twice, the prosecution of the parents and other adults along with the entire series of events is all a dog and pony show because of alleged wrongdoing by an EMT. All my opinion etc.

 

[readmylips]

LOL the CPR trained guy on Chatham Community Board ... who didn't bother to perform cpr on the child not breathing... is now also threatening to sue anyone that questions him, is saying his life is in danger, and we and this site have been reported to the feds because his comment got deleted .... there is not enough head desk

The guy that has now entered the TBF Twilight Zone on the Chatham Community Board is using a "burner" account so not sure how "his" life is in danger. Unless, of course it is baby daddy #2? He totes how much the TBF has done for the community. ZILCH. They are NOT members of the Chatham Community. This case is not that difficult. A 12 year old died. Basically starved to death MOO/IMO. One may find it hard to believe that a 12 year old, with fluid seeping from her LEGS didn't say, "mommy, I don't feel good." That's the SADDEST part of this whole sick thing IMO. Look up Kwashiorkor. Case closed.

 

[MsMarple]

I'm pretty sure they are the same person. Gibson is a former assistant DA, who took over as DSS commissioner after the former commissioner was arrested for DUI. Imo

Thanks for the clarification MsB! What I don't get is that they've been prominently using the guy's name for a year and now suddenly Gibson's an ex-employee of the DA's office. And why are they saying it's "new" evidence? It's like they're spinning a different tale for the community board. They've switched up a few other "facts" too. Maybe they don't want to bring too much calumny to a public page?

As for their own page... it's getting painful to read. Or more painful. Now they're talking about Heidi's menstrual chart and how Evanna was doing better than poor Steve who was so sick. In fact until Evanna choked there was no emergency.

They now admit the EMTs did open an airway and did give Evanna oxygen. Four days ago on the community board the family said EMTs didn't give her oxygen then a couple days later changed it to they did but not for 30 minutes.

Poor Evanna has become a dormant object now in their posts. They talk about "the" throat and "the" stomach." They even claim people with end-stage kidney disease can live many years. No mention of needing dialysis or a transplant.

Their latest post is probably the longest yet and they're trying to cram so much into it that it's almost incomprehensible. IMO they're answering people on the community board from the safety of their own page, where no one can respond or challenge what they say. I think it was unpleasant for them to see few supporters on the community page. MOO.

 

[shotgun09]

IMO, the repetitive and alarm sounding posts from the TB family's page, which is then transferred to the poor Chatham Community's page has only increased awareness to the local (and general) public of how twisted and absurd they all are. The Community just isn't buying it. Similar to the Wizard of Oz, the curtain has been pulled back and the public is all very aware that the "evidence" they claim is fiction and drama.

I will not be silenced because the TB family observes the public (my) views and opinions as detrimental to their 'story' and wants all opposing views to "desist".

In the meantime, I will continue supporting and defending EMS, while the TB Family continues their IMO, shameless assault on the people who our lives depend on. The community itself should be rallying against the 'defamation'
of their EMS...their trusted servants.

 

[Alethea]

Are the parents providing some of the information to the daughter? Could they have obtained a court order that would prevent the daughter from posting? She is not helping them. MOO

This is just my opinion but it is possible the adult children were also charged with manslaughter to try to show them how serious these charges are. I have worked on cases where a minor accomplice or someone who should have known better (in connection with a fraud) was either threatened with charges or also charged to try to get them to flip and come clean and testify truthfully.

I think it's fair to say at least to the person in charge of posting on the TB family page...it didn't work. I do wonder what the other adult sisters, who all seem to have jobs and lives, think about being dragged into this and charged with felonies due to their parents alleged negligence. I hope they are appointed good lawyers who can help them think for themselves.

 

[renah]

I dunno.. To me, their latest post is the first reasonably sane and logically presented explanation that they've provided. FINALLY. I don't think Venushka authored this one.

They may not be very likeable people on a personal level but if what they've presented in the latest TBF post is verifiable, I can understand their distress.

I just wish they'd stop saying things like "Evanna was filling her face in the kitchen", though. Maybe they don't realize how it comes off to people outside of the family?

 

[Alethea]

What I actually think is interesting, in my opinion, is the complete lack of news coverage about this case. There are a few local reporters but nothing at all compared to what we see in other cases. The Capital Region (Albany) news market isn't tiny - there should be more coverage. And there has been zero national pickup.

Why can't their attorney Michael Sussman get them more news coverage? If there is a huge scandal with NYS and Columbia County DSS stealing and abusing children, why isn't Sussman getting media attention for it? One of the main reasons you hire a prominent attorney is because they have contacts in the media. Heck, I am a small time lawyer and I have plenty of media contacts in my practice area where I can call someone and get a good story run if my client needs it and it would help their case. Why isn't this on CNN, Nancy Grace, etc? The TB family page keeps saying how "famous" their case is but in reality there's 10 people on Websleuths chatting about it and their neighbors. It's not famous, it's not in the news. What gives?

 

[MsMarple]

IMO, the repetitive and alarm sounding posts from the TB family's page, which is then transferred to the poor Chatham Community's page has only increased awareness to the local (and general) public of how twisted and absurd they all are. The Community just isn't buying it. Similar to the Wizard of Oz, the curtain has been pulled back and the public is all very aware that the "evidence" they claim is fiction and drama.

I will not be silenced because the TB family observes the public (my) views and opinions as detrimental to their 'story' and wants all opposing views to "desist".

In the meantime, I will continue supporting and defending EMS, while the TB Family continues their IMO, shameless assault on the people who our lives depend on. The community itself should be rallying against the 'defamation'
of their EMS...their trusted servants.

IMO what makes the adults in the family dangerous to the minor children is their continuing insistence that they know better than evidence-based medicine, including nutrition. They claim that Papa Steve writes books on history and science and conducted extensive research to debunk macrobiotics. That's just a plain lie and yeah I checked. No books by this Steve Bennett, not even self-published books.

It's clear that the above is not the case and the "facts" are that they have fought with DSS since 2002, in two states (maybe more for all we know) yet refuse to modify their lifestyle for the health of the children, despite ongoing vitamin and mineral deficiencies. Evanna paid for their defiance and ignorance.

MOO if the children are ever returned to their parents I hope DSS will keep a close eye on them.

 

[Warwick7]

IMO what makes the adults in the family dangerous to the minor children is their continuing insistence that they know better than evidence-based medicine, including nutrition. They claim that Papa Steve writes books on history and science and conducted extensive research to debunk macrobiotics. That's just a plain lie and yeah I checked. No books by this Steve Bennett, not even self-published books.

It's clear that the above is not the case and the "facts" are that they have fought with DSS since 2002, in two states (maybe more for all we know) yet refuse to modify their lifestyle for the health of the children, despite ongoing vitamin and mineral deficiencies. Evanna paid for their defiance and ignorance.

MOO if the children are ever returned to their parents I hope DSS will keep a close eye on them.

While following the case of Leticia Stauch, one issue became apparent immediately. She constantly preempted "explaining." Pre-splaining became her "go to" evidence.

I see the same tactic here. moo

It is, in MOO, shocking and astonishing how they are reading here and elsewhere then... changing up the narrative.

Are they wanting to influence a jury pool?....

 

[lozzalozlos]

Im a long time lurker, followed and read many cases on here over the years from UK, but Ive never seen anything like this.. I asked them a legitimate respectful question on facebook regarding the burial of this child, and the response was I was a fake facebook account and basically its not of my concern if shes been laid to rest. This family are not helping themselves, they deleted my question off their page, they only seem to keep posts of those that agree with their strange rants and accusations of defamation. And the posts of Heidis menstrual issues are nothing short of bizarre, nothing to do with the death of a clearly very sick 12 year old. Poor SB was more sick. This family enrage me and its obvious ETB has no dignity in death as not laid to rest. Atrocious. Im angry with the TB family.

 

[shotgun09]

Im a long time lurker, followed and read many cases on here over the years from UK, but Ive never seen anything like this.. I asked them a legitimate respectful question on facebook regarding the burial of this child, and the response was I was a fake facebook account and basically its not of my concern if shes been laid to rest. This family are not helping themselves, they deleted my question off their page, they only seem to keep posts of those that agree with their strange rants and accusations of defamation. And the posts of Heidis menstrual issues are nothing short of bizarre, nothing to do with the death of a clearly very sick 12 year old. Poor SB was more sick. This family enrage me and its obvious ETB has no dignity in death as not laid to rest. Atrocious. Im angry with the TB family.

lozzalozlos, Welcome to WS from across the pond!!

 

[Warwick7]

Something else that disturbs me is all the plurals. Ill paraphrase the best I can.

...all we knew is that after her cold...

...concerned us enough to decide to take her to a local hospital...

...we had every expectation of arriving at the hospital...

...we were never told about it at the time...

...Evanna coughed out what we thought was blood, but was actually...

...we believe that if the EMTs had not crushed her chest...

...we note that she was given antibiotics...

...she was returned to our care in that case...

...we have documented all such rumors and online comments...

This is very disturbing. Evanna had her own mother and own father who, in moo, were responsible for her care.

This group responsibility over Evanna is...bizarre....

 

[lozzalozlos]

lozzalozlos, Welcome to WS from across the pond!!

Thank you so much! Ive been here for a long time just lurking, but as a parent I am shocked by this one.

 

[shotgun09]

I dunno.. To me, their latest post is the first reasonably sane and logically presented explanation that they've provided. FINALLY. I don't think Venushka authored this one.

They may not be very likeable people on a personal level but if what they've presented in the latest TBF post is verifiable, I can understand their distress.

I just wish they'd stop saying things like "Evanna was filling her face in the kitchen", though. Maybe they don't realize how it comes off to people outside of the family?

The recent FB page post clearly said Evanna was "stuffing her face". Pleasant, loving and kind words about their dead daughter/sister for the world to see. Their words regarding Evanna actually disgust me. But, please...by all means TB Family...continue ....SMH

 

[Lusitana]

Something else that disturbs me is all the plurals. Ill paraphrase the best I can.

...all we knew is that after her cold...

...concerned us enough to decide to take her to a local hospital...

...we had every expectation of arriving at the hospital...

...we were never told about it at the time...

...Evanna coughed out what we thought was blood, but was actually...

...we believe that if the EMTs had not crushed her chest...

...we note that she was given antibiotics...

...she was returned to our care in that case...

...we have documented all such rumors and online comments...

This is very disturbing. Evanna had her own mother and own father who, in moo, were responsible for her care.

This group responsibility over Evanna is...bizarre....

Yep, nobody ever takes repsonsability for anything. Nobody ever comes out and says "I did this" or "I said this" or "I thought that", never.

It's always "we" this and "we" that.

And when "they're" referring to a specific family member it's always "Heidi said", "Steve did", "Venuska thought".

They totally operate as a unit. TO ME, it doesn't look like anyone has an identity outside of that family. They exist as a family, we the Tranberg-Bennetts.

I have nothing against close-knit families, I actually believe that families should be close and have a good relationship. But this doesn't seem normal or healthy.

 

[lozzalozlos]

The recent FB page post clearly said Evanna was "stuffing her face". Pleasant, loving and kind words about their dead daughter/sister for the world to see. Their words regarding Evanna actually disgust me. But, please...by all means TB Family...continue ....SMH

IMO. There is no way that child was stuffing her face in their parlor, or taking advantage of the use of said parlor! That child was dying. End of.

 

[Lusitana]

IMO. There is no way that child was stuffing her face in their parlor, or taking advantage of the use of said parlor! That child was dying. End of.

They sure are putting a lot of effort into the story of her eating a lot by herself.

I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but let's say a family has a child that looks very weak and just fainted. Maybe that child hasn't been eating much lately because she doesn't feel well. What if the family force-fed the child, thinking that would help her, and the poor child chokes on the food?

I'm not saying that this is what happened, but the insistence on mentioning, over and over again, that Evanna was eating large quantities of candy is strange.

At first I thought they were trying to prove she was acting normal, but now I think they're just trying to prove that she was the one putting the food into her own mouth. Just my opinion.

 

[lozzalozlos]

Has anyone heard why there have been no services for ETB? Im in UK, and Im aware things are done differently here, but just wondered if there would be any reason to not bury a child for almost a year. I did ask the TB family and was met with hostility that it is not my concern. I was wondering if they were planning another autopsy? My concern is only for the dignity of ETB. I myself have lost a son, at birth, full term, and for me his dignity had to be respected and his burial as soon as possible, of which we managed to do. We did not feel comfortable until he was properly laid to rest. JMO