GUILTY NY - Evanna Tranberg-Bennett, 12, died, parents failed to get her medical care, 6 Dec 2019 Probation

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shotgun09 said:
Another post up on the TB page, from what I gather didn't go too well at all at the hearing today for the family. I sense extreme hostility from their comment. Also they said there is another hearing tomorrow. Additional (frequent) commenter posted some court room views as he claimed he was present in court, and called as a witness. Interesting
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Sounds like things are moving along slowly. That's usually how it goes, though. It's hard to know what went on with so few details.

I don't understand that guys comments about not being allowed in the courtroom. Why would he be if he is a witness? Also, why does he have a recording of prior hearings?

It sounds like one of the parties involved gave it to him.
 
MsBetsy said:
Sounds like things are moving along slowly. That's usually how it goes, though. It's hard to know what went on with so few details.

I don't understand that guys comments about not being allowed in the courtroom. Why would he be if he is a witness? Also, why does he have a recording of prior hearings?

It sounds like one of the parties involved gave it to him.
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Exactly! 'Curiouser and curiouser', said Alice
 
In an attempt to deflect anything against them, the TB family has an additional comment stated about the 'witness' that was called to the stand yesterday. Conspiracy !!, cries the TB Family in distress.. 'The witness was badgered on the stand because he was THANKED by the TB family!!'

Nothing was mentioned by the TB family's comment last night about the mysterious 1028 court "tape" this witness has. Could it be that the "tape" was surreptitiously recorded by a member of the TB family? They have certainly shown and admitted to doing the very same thing in previous statements and comments as well as in previous cases they have been involved in.
IMO, the "look, squirrel.." defense on FB is getting tiresome. I wonder how it's working for them in court
 
MsBetsy said:
Sounds like things are moving along slowly. That's usually how it goes, though. It's hard to know what went on with so few details.

I don't understand that guys comments about not being allowed in the courtroom. Why would he be if he is a witness? Also, why does he have a recording of prior hearings?

It sounds like one of the parties involved gave it to him.
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BBM
Agreed!
Either he is uneducated or a liar looking to get his 15 minutes of fame. My best guess he wants to manipulate a jury pool.

Witnesses are not permitted in the courtroom until it is their turn to give evidence. This is so they do not hear the evidence of other witnesses. And they have to make sure they do not discuss the case while they are waiting to be called.
 
shotgun09 said:
In an attempt to deflect anything against them, the TB family has an additional comment stated about the 'witness' that was called to the stand yesterday. Conspiracy !!, cries the TB Family in distress.. 'The witness was badgered on the stand because he was THANKED by the TB family!!'

Nothing was mentioned by the TB family's comment last night about the mysterious 1028 court "tape" this witness has. Could it be that the "tape" was surreptitiously recorded by a member of the TB family? They have certainly shown and admitted to doing the very same thing in previous statements and comments as well as in previous cases they have been involved in.
IMO, the "look, squirrel.." defense on FB is getting tiresome. I wonder how it's working for them in court
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BBM
Guilty is as guilty does.
This is another example of their crookedness.
 
So... they accuse the pathologist from the first autopsy of being corrupt and falsifying documents in order to cover up the EMTs' actions.

But they post screenshots of that same doctor's pathologic diagnoses as evidence that the EMTs are responsible for Evanna's death.

Their accusations tend to grow legs IMO and morph into imaginary conspiracies. For example, the earlier accusation that a DSS supervisor slapped the little boy is now being reported as multiple DSS workers and foster caregivers slapping and abusing multiple children on a daily basis. And strangers reading their blog are told that they are committing child abuse (and calumny) if they don't believe the family's assertions.

JMOO but any legitimate claims the family might actually have will be eclipsed by their obvious attempt to manipulate the facts.
 
MsMarple said:
So... they accuse the pathologist from the first autopsy of being corrupt and falsifying documents in order to cover up the EMTs' actions.

But they post screenshots of that same doctor's pathologic diagnoses as evidence that the EMTs are responsible for Evanna's death.

Their accusations tend to grow legs IMO and morph into imaginary conspiracies. For example, the earlier accusation that a DSS supervisor slapped the little boy is now being reported as multiple DSS workers and foster caregivers slapping and abusing multiple children on a daily basis. And strangers reading their blog are told that they are committing child abuse (and calumny) if they don't believe the family's assertions.

JMOO but any legitimate claims the family might actually have will be eclipsed by their obvious attempt to manipulate the facts.
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BBM
"And strangers reading their blog are told that they are committing child abuse (and calumny) if they don't believe the family's assertions."

Now add they tell others to get a transcript from the Court. Then have them test it against their notes made at the hearing, which they'll do for anyone who asks...

MOO is these two comments are extremely narcissist.

Their delusions lack spacial awareness or self awareness.
 
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shotgun09 said:
It appears as tho the court hearing is over for today, as the FB posting on the TB Family page resumes. IMO, someone is a bit.. shall I say, unhinged ? I cannot even try to comprehend it
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I'm not sure why they are so surprised the children's attorney and DSS are handing paperwork to the DA. Aren't they supposed to communicate together? Aren't they required to release all their findings, medical records, documents, and whatever evidence they have to DA? Why should it be the other way around? Why would the DA be giving them notes if it is CPS that has been investigating this case?
 
MsBetsy said:
I'm not sure why they are so surprised the children's attorney and DSS are handing paperwork to the DA. Aren't they supposed to communicate together? Aren't they required to release all their findings, medical records, documents, and whatever evidence they have to DA? Why should it be the other way around? Why would the DA be giving them notes if it is CPS that has been investigating this case?
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Because...it is all a 'conspiracy' against the family! That is just my opinion on what they are trying to convey
 
craftyhistorynerd said:
something happened at that hearing that didn't go in their favor ..bigtime
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I don't think they have any answers yet. They said they would be in court all week.

I thought they said it was going to be determined whether or not the adults can all be represented by the same attorney. The only thing I've read so far is complaints about how the case is being handled and more of what they've already posted a hundred times.
 
shotgun09 said:
Because...it is all a 'conspiracy' against the family! That is just my opinion on what they are trying to convey
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Yes, that much is clear. I'm still curious as to what the procedure is concerning handing notes to the DA and why they are stating it should be the other way around. Maybe Alethia can help with that.

I've been involved with lots of CPS cases when I worked with at-risk children in New York but I'm not sure about the specifics when it comes to court proceedings and the role of the DA.

This case is complicated because there is the CPS case investigating the family for abuse and neglect and then there is the criminal case and manslaughter charges. They seem to be rolled into one. We've heard very little in terms of what LE has investigated or found in this case. It seems like they are relying solely on DSS.
 
MsBetsy said:
Yes, that much is clear. I'm still curious as to what the procedure is concerning handing notes to the DA and why they are stating it should be the other way around. Maybe Alethia can help with that.

I've been involved with lots of CPS cases when I worked with at-risk children in New York but I'm not sure about the specifics when it comes to court proceedings and the role of the DA.

This case is complicated because there is the CPS case investigating the family for abuse and neglect and then there is the criminal case and manslaughter charges. They seem to be rolled into one. We've heard very little in terms of what LE has investigated or found in this case. It seems like they are relying solely on DSS.
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It makes no sense to me. The DA is investigating and prosecuting a crime. DSS is investigating the welfare of the children. The children's court appointed attorneys represent their interests - as alleged victims of crimes (vis a vis the DA) and as alleged victims of child neglect (vis a vis DSS). Lawyers for witnesses or victims often cooperate with the DA because it is in the interests of their child clients to do so.

I can see where a lay person may be confused or think it inappropriate where the lawyer for a third party is cooperating with the DA if they (incorrectly) think the third party must stay completely neutral. For example, it would be really weird for a defense lawyer to help the prosecution in any case. You wouldn't expect the defense to do any thing beyond professional courtesy or something that was in the interests of their clients to help the prosecution. But a third party does not have that exact adversarial relationship, particularly when the third party's lawyer has reason to believe the defendants may actually be endangering the third party.
 
Warwick7 said:
One hour ago: The family wished their condolences to Deputy Stevens for experiencing being thrown under the bus by DSS and the County.

????????

Then they say this was another expendable part of fraud.

????????
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I wonder of that was one of the officers who was at the scene or searched the house. Early on they described how LE put the placentas from the freezer on the counter and demanded to know where the rest of the "fetuses" were. They said they wrecked their house, destroyed photographs and other valuables, and accused them of sexually abusing their children. Imo
 
Alethea said:
It makes no sense to me. The DA is investigating and prosecuting a crime. DSS is investigating the welfare of the children. The children's court appointed attorneys represent their interests - as alleged victims of crimes (vis a vis the DA) and as alleged victims of child neglect (vis a vis DSS). Lawyers for witnesses or victims often cooperate with the DA because it is in the interests of their child clients to do so.

I can see where a lay person may be confused or think it inappropriate where the lawyer for a third party is cooperating with the DA if they (incorrectly) think the third party must stay completely neutral. For example, it would be really weird for a defense lawyer to help the prosecution in any case. You wouldn't expect the defense to do any thing beyond professional courtesy or something that was in the interests of their clients to help the prosecution. But a third party does not have that exact adversarial relationship, particularly when the third party's lawyer has reason to believe the defendants may actually be endangering the third party.
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Thank you for explaining that so well. I'm relieved that it makes no sense to you, either! It seems perfectly normal for the children's attorney to be passing paperwork or "notes" to the DA.

I thought maybe I was missing something. The comments on that page are so misleading.
 
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