VERDICT WATCH NY - Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein confidante, arrested on Sex Abuse charges, Jul 2020 #3

[otto]

Janine Gill-Velez of Florida Property Management ( Mar-a-Lago) is on the stand

Carolyn‘s ex boyfriend Shawn is testifying.


@molcranenewman

Shawn is now on. He's the ex-boyfriend of Carolyn, who testified yesterday. Carolyn told jurors she was 14 when she started dating then-17-year-old Shawn. Epstein would start sexually abusing her the same year, she said

Carolyn's ex boyfriend, and the father of her son, says he would wait in the driveway of Epstein's Palm Beach villa when she gave him massages for money. The prosecutor asks him to describe Carolyn's level of intelligence in those years. "She was a child," Shawn tells the jury.

He was age 17-21 years old when he delivered his 14-18 year old girlfriend to a pedophile so she could earn $300 in an hour? If she had the intelligence of a child during those years, does she still have the intelligence of a child? I'm curious what he means with that description.

 

[sds71]

@Tom_Winter

Former Jeffrey Epstein pilot David Rodgers has been called to testify by federal prosecutors in the on-going trial of Ghislaine Maxwell


@KlasfeldReports

Rodgers' testimony turns to the passenger manifest. He says he also kept a personal logbook.
Rodgers is testifying about flights to Traverse City, Mich., the closest airport to the Interlochen academy.

@jkbjournalist
Judge Alison Nathan noted that the logs appeared “overly redacted” and asked prosecutors to review redactions and produce new logs that are not as redacted.

Epstein’s pilot testified that in 7/91 Maxwell lived in a large apartment at 59th Street and Columbus Circle, which is where Trump Tower is — in Manhattan. Not clear if she lived at Trump Tower.

Prosecutors in the Ghislaine Maxwell sex trafficking trial have rigorously sealed evidence and protected what they call “third parties” — even info or documents that is already known or has been already public.
The judge has scrutinized many of the documents that are sealed and/or redacted — and has asked prosecutors to unredact or release some document. But why are public documents and names still being kept from the public??



https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/12/08/ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein-seen-relaxing-queens-log-cabin/

 

[bestill]

Giuffre was age 17 when she met Epstein. She met Victim 4 through her boyfriend's friend when Victim 4 was 14 years old. If Giuffre was 17 years old when she recruited Victim 4, then Giuffre learned how to recruit victims quickly.

Maxwell did not recruit and groom Victim 4. That was 100% Giuffre.

"She met Epstein when she was 14 through her boyfriend Shawn, who was 17.

Shawn was friends with Tony Figueroa who was dating Virginia Roberts ...

Carolyn said that the four of them used to hang out and 'smoke pot' until one day Roberts brought up Epstein.

Carolyn said: 'Virginia asked me if I wanted to go make money.'

Carolyn added that Roberts said: 'We were going to go to her friend's house in Palm Beach island…I would give him a massage. I was going to make a lot of money'."
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Epstein had photo of Ghislaine Maxwell naked and PREGNANT, accuser reveals | Daily Mail Online

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Ghislaine Maxwell was pregnant?? I totally missed this. Does she have a child with Jeffrey Epstein??

 

[Ontario Mom]

One does not stop being a victim simply b/c one turns 18. Want to villainize JE/GM's recruiters? Go to Reddit or something similar; this thread is for GM. eta: (forum TOS does not allow victim blaming)

Thank you!

 

[BUF]

julie k. brown
@jkbjournalist

NEW: Ghislaine Maxwell flew as a passenger the first flight on Jeffrey Epstein’s newly purchased plane in 7/1991 — meaning she knew the financier at least 4 months before her father — Robert Maxwell — died.

Next to testify: Annie Farmer, who has accused Maxwell & Epstein of molesting her when she was 16 at Epstein’s ranch in New Mexico. In NM 16 was the age of consent so defense wants judge to instruct the jury about that.

 

[razzledazzle]

Not to take away from the seriousness of this trial, but am I the only one with folding massage tables popping up in my google ads?!

 

[sds71]

Not to take away from the seriousness of this trial, but am I the only one with folding massage tables popping up in my google ads?!

Much better than getting twin torpedo ads

 

[citygirl]

Much better than getting twin torpedo ads

 

[Seni]

Adam Klasfeld
@KlasfeldReports
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2h

Point of clarification on the modifier: The “witness” here being the current witness: Rodgers.


3h
Rodgers is testifying about flights to Traverse City, Mich., the closest airport to the Interlochen academy. That's where "Jane" says she met Maxwell and Epstein. The witness recalls traveling there between 1991 to 1998.

28min

On an afternoon recess: Epstein's ex-chief pilot Rodgers remains on the stand and is now being questioned by Maxwell's attorney. Like Epstein's other pilot Visoski, Rodgers insists he never saw sexual activity on the planes or anyone who appeared to be unaccompanied minors.

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26min

Drawing from his log book, Rodgers recalled Virginia Roberts on the plane about 32 times. "Jane" several times, too, including on flights to the airport closest to Interlochen — the academy where "Jane" says she met Epstein and Maxwell.

 

[citygirl]

Interesting that both pilots never saw any illicit behavior.
Did they really never have a clue?
MOO.

 

[BUF]

Molly Crane-Newman
@molcranenewman

Prosecutors will rest their case against Maxwell tomorrow -- or Friday latest.

Now, Maxwell's lawyers are scrambling.

"The government has shaved a considerable amount of this case off in the last day," says Everdell.

"We're trying to hustle witnesses; it's not that easy."

 

[mickey2942]

Interesting that both pilots never saw any illicit behavior.
Did they really never have a clue?
MOO.

Licensed professionals walk a fine line. They may have decided to focus on their job, check plane, and the job duties assigned. Not other issues, especially with an employer.

I see that very often in many other professions.

 

[JayWill]

I get what you're saying; yes, they both get off on the suffering of others and have a cruel steak that runs the length of the Nile.



...and these two cruel femmes (KH & GM) parlent français fluently...

They would have had the very best educations money can buy.

 

[citygirl]

Licensed professionals walk a fine line. They may have decided to focus on their job, check plane, and the job duties assigned. Not other issues, especially with an employer.

I see that very often in many other professions.

But they are able to name who they saw on flights and how many times.
MOO.

 

[Seni]

I think Ghislaine will walk. Not enough testimony against her versus Epstein. Shame the big witnesses did not testify. They will know their reasons.

 

[passionflower]

Ghislaine Maxwell was pregnant?? I totally missed this. Does she have a child with Jeffrey Epstein??

I missed this also!

 

[mickey2942]

But they are able to name who they saw on flights and how many times.
MOO.

No, focus on the job. Not the people.

I have done that often in my professional career.

 

[tayaway]

Interesting that both pilots never saw any illicit behavior.
Did they really never have a clue?
MOO.

To give a bit of visual context, the Lolita Express, a 727-200, has dividers, so the pilot(s) would not be able to witness any of the er, action, going on in the bed area (remember that JE converted much of the seating to bed/lounge areas). Source for attached diagram.

To get a feel for the massive rennos JE did to his plane, you can see photos from this Sun article. There is no way that the pilot(s) would be able to witness the action, unless the plane was grounded or another pilot took over while in midair.

 

[otto]

Ghislaine Maxwell was pregnant?? I totally missed this. Does she have a child with Jeffrey Epstein??

I'm not convinced we should take this seriously.

"Maxwell's second accuser Carolyn said under cross examination that she had seen a photo in Epstein's home of Maxwell 'nude and pregnant.'

Maxwell is not known to be a mother, and no further details of the alleged pregnancy were given in court."
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Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein lounge in Queen's log cabin at Balmoral | Daily Mail Online

 

[acehard]

@Tom_Winter

Former Jeffrey Epstein pilot David Rodgers has been called to testify by federal prosecutors in the on-going trial of Ghislaine Maxwell


@KlasfeldReports

Rodgers' testimony turns to the passenger manifest. He says he also kept a personal logbook.
Rodgers is testifying about flights to Traverse City, Mich., the closest airport to the Interlochen academy.

@jkbjournalist
Judge Alison Nathan noted that the logs appeared “overly redacted” and asked prosecutors to review redactions and produce new logs that are not as redacted.

Epstein’s pilot testified that in 7/91 Maxwell lived in a large apartment at 59th Street and Columbus Circle, which is where Trump Tower is — in Manhattan. Not clear if she lived at Trump Tower.

Prosecutors in the Ghislaine Maxwell sex trafficking trial have rigorously sealed evidence and protected what they call “third parties” — even info or documents that is already known or has been already public.
The judge has scrutinized many of the documents that are sealed and/or redacted — and has asked prosecutors to unredact or release some document. But why are public documents and names still being kept from the public??



https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/12/08/ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein-seen-relaxing-queens-log-cabin/

If there is evidence their clients had sex with minors, why are they redacted or sealed? Why wont that be relevant to this case?