Found Deceased NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - # 3

[LivingJuicy]

Thank you LJ (and IHAVENOCLUE too!) Nothing new to offer at the moment.

I just want to comment that you folks do a terrific job in identifying minute details and developing possible senarios that would elude most people, myself included. Kudos for the fine job you do on this site and please keep up the good work! Your efforts are much appreciated.

That being said, I hope to provide factual information where I can to help you continue to figure out what happened to Jennifer. I am extremely limited in offering any opinions or certain other info however, for obvious reasons, and hope you understand my position.

Let's bring Jennifer home.....

RB, I want to hug you. I understand your position.

Even though I don't believe that Jennifer met with foul play en route to the mall, I have thought about it all day.

Motive - sexual, robbery, sociopath, car jacking

Car is not missing, money is not missing, phone was not taken.
A body was not found. No sign of struggle. No visible blood.

No search to look for a body or evidence.


Lost & Missing advised that they wanted people to look for an ALIVE Jennifer.




I wish we knew more..

 

[epiphany]

Do we know whether or not the home was checked with luminol during the 4 days LE and other agencies intensively searched the home and surrounding acres?

And if so, is that SOP in all missing persons cases so early on? IMO, it's not.

 

[Clayton]

IMO I don't think Jennifer met with foul play on the way to the mall. We don't know what was found in the car or the home. That information has not been released by LE.
There have been searches by LE, although it has been very quiet for obvious reasons. Think there is alot going on behind the scenes. Hope something breaks soon.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Thank you LJ (and IHAVENOCLUE too!) Nothing new to offer at the moment.

I just want to comment that you folks do a terrific job in identifying minute details and developing possible senarios that would elude most people, myself included. Kudos for the fine job you do on this site and please keep up the good work! Your efforts are much appreciated.

That being said, I hope to provide factual information where I can to help you continue to figure out what happened to Jennifer. I am extremely limited in offering any opinions or certain other info however, for obvious reasons, and hope you understand my position.

Let's bring Jennifer home.....

Oh My...

I so hope we can help bring Jennifer home...

And I hope we can continue to provide support as well as you go through this challenging time..

I recognize how you need to be careful on what you can and cannot share..

and I want to respect that to the utmost!

Thank you for the kind words, too! :smile:

:hug:

 

[PennyFlower]

Maybe a stalker was hiding in her van... That thought always crosses my mind when I leave my car outside (rather than in the garage) over night. In this rural area, we seldom lock our vehicles at home. It would be very easy for someone to slip into the way back and hide (especially with all the coats and gym clothes back there :blushing. I have visions of me driving down the road and looking into my rearview just in time to see someone pop up from the way back with a knife or something..... (too many movies?).

Although...there was no sign of struggle in Jennifer's van... sigh...

 

[Wolf Dreamer]

Do we know whether or not the home was checked with luminol during the 4 days LE and other agencies intensively searched the home and surrounding acres?

And if so, is that SOP in all missing persons cases so early on? IMO, it's not.

According to Lavanda Dolce they used luminol in the house.

 

[ozgirl70]

RB thank you for your help.

Do we know yet whether anyone else saw Jennifer that morning? eg did she see the girls off to school? Or when anyone besides GR saw or spoke to her?

:moo::moo:

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

RB thank you for your help.

Do we know yet whether anyone else saw Jennifer that morning? eg did she see the girls off to school? Or when anyone besides GR saw or spoke to her?

:moo::moo:

I keep asking this question too!

Who was the last person who saw JR (besides GR and kids) before she disappeared...

When was it... Where was it... And who???

lease:

 

[Sharoneonta]

I've been wondering if KF & GR were friends before Jennifer went missing.

Also, when did her parents leave for AZ?

To clarify: I'm assuming her parents spend the colder months in AZ. When did they leave for the season.

 

[Sharoneonta]

According to Lavanda Dolce they used luminol in the house.

Yes, but when?

 

[momrids6]

I keep asking this question too!

Who was the last person who saw JR (besides GR and kids) before she disappeared...

When was it... Where was it... And who???

lease:

How did the kids get to school daily? On the 11th?

 

[rickblaine]

How did the kids get to school daily? On the 11th?

Driven by their dad.

 

[sleepinoz]

Do we know if the Children saw their mother on the morning of 11th?

 

[rickblaine]

Do we know if the Children saw their mother on the morning of 11th?

My understanding is the morning unfolded as a typical morning would. That would of course include the kids seeing Mom, and Dad driving them to school....

 

[Jilllian]

Driven by their dad.

are they normally driven by their dad, RB? or do they usually take the bus?

ETA: nevermind. i see you answered this upthread. thanks

 

[rickblaine]

are they normally driven by their dad, RB? or do they usually take the bus?

They are typically driven in by their dad. That probably delays them from having to leave the house by 30 minutes or more, as they are nearly the first -and earliest - stop the bus makes in the morning.

 

[PennyFlower]

RB - We know the keys were in the van when it was found. How about her purse? Do you know the status of that (or can you divulge that info?)?

Also, are the kids living with GR at this time?

 

[OffRoadRunner]

A few things to point out that hunting season did not end until 12/20 for late muzzleloader which is becoming more popular up here.

Also, RB - do you know who their cell service is? If the cell phone had AT&T service it could work where it was located, but not likely a day later after going in an out of service which is likely especially being a smart phone as their battery life is short.

Also, RB - do you know how muddy the van was when found? Gas level in the tank?

Thanks for being here!!! I'm local and what Jennifer found for the family and also a concerned citizen of the Norwich area.

 

[rickblaine]

RB - We know the keys were in the van when it was found. How about her purse? Do you know the status of that (or can you divulge that info?)?

Also, are the kids living with GR at this time?

Penny, I've wondered about the purse too. I don't have an answer at this time.

The kids are living with GR.

 

[rickblaine]

A few things to point out that hunting season did not end until 12/20 for late muzzleloader which is becoming more popular up here.

Also, RB - do you know who their cell service is? If the cell phone had AT&T service it could work where it was located, but not likely a day later after going in an out of service which is likely especially being a smart phone as their battery life is short.

Also, RB - do you know how muddy the van was when found? Gas level in the tank?

Thanks for being here!!! I'm local and what Jennifer found for the family and also a concerned citizen of the Norwich area.

Hi ORR - thanks for your concern re Jennifer and the family.

Sorry, I don't know what cell phone service they subscribe to.

Don't know the gas level but can tell you the van was described to me as looking like it had been "off-roading". I took that to mean there was a substantial amount of mud on the vehicle.