Found Deceased NY - Joseph Comunale, 26, Manhattan, 12 Nov 2016 #1 *Arrests*

[Momoffourboys]

Steroids aren't a party drug, not sure why that was mentioned. All those guys look like serious weightlifters so they may well use them, but not relevant unless someone's claiming steroid use has changed their personality.

Steroids use while using recreational/other drugs are an issue. IMO that's why it was mentioned.

ETA: Anabolic steroid use, alone, is known to cause aggression. Add to that party drugs and alcohol... Disaster.

 

[Starkville]

Son of Former New Jersey Mayor Charged in Hofstra Grad Slay Case
The 26-year-old Comunale was found stabbed more than a dozen times in a shallow grave in New Jersey last month
By Wale Aliyu, NBC News CT
6:55 AM EST on Dec 7, 2016

A report from earlier, where his defense naturally distances him.

"Gemma is due back in court on Jan. 17. He works in software sales, according to his attorney in court, and is free to return to work until the next court date." BBM

There seems to be covering up on so many levels and so very deliberately layered. Essentially, it seems to me, whatever is being covered for is far worse than the defense's best case scenario of trying to pass this off as an argument over cigarettes. Software sales would include , is it possible? I wonder if LE has tracked what kind of "software" Gemma sells. I would say the three of them found in Joey, more than they could handle, as they seem to have been well cultivated and familiar with the shame game, and had the confidence of being defended once they tried and as they tried to cover up. In other words, I think the cover up, was done as a cover up, for something else, it seems to me.

Max and his mother are also listed as agents at Keller Williams City Life, a brokerage in Hoboken, NJ.

http://kwcitylifeproperties.com/kwclp.agent.php

This doesn't necessarily mean that they are full-time practicing agents. But they do seem to have licenses that are being "held" by Keller Williams.

 

[neesaki]

I really don't believe it was a sexual advance gone bad. LE had mentioned that drugs (cocaine/steroids) were used and probably a lot of alcohol prior to that.

I have no idea, just going by what was reported. That said, the whole idea that it had to do with going for cigarettes totally stinks. So, it had to be something more for someone to stab this poor man 15 times, then dispose of his body, and try to burn him in the process. It all stinks to high heaven. JMO

BTW, I do think that at least one of the suspects are gay. If the victim wasn't gay, would that make a difference?

So, what is everyone's theory? I want to hear them all. TIA

 

[Momoffourboys]

I have no idea, just going by what was reported. That said, the whole idea that it had to do with going for cigarettes totally stinks. So, it had to be something more for someone to stab this poor man 15 times, then dispose of his body, and try to burn him in the process. It all stinks to high heaven. JMO

BTW, I do think that at least one of the suspects are gay. If the victim wasn't gay, would that make a difference?

So, what is everyone's theory? I want to hear them all. TIA

I agree that the cigarette story is just lame. Like LD was making it up as he went along. I guess it sounded logical to him at the moment.

Honestly, and IMO only, I don't believe any of them were gay or bi. I believe James provided a "service" in exchange for his lifestyle.

I think alcohol and drugs and a very long night created a deadly scenario. Could have been any twenty something year old good looking guy who went back to party.

 

[neesaki]

I really don't believe it was a sexual advance gone bad. LE had mentioned that drugs (cocaine/steroids) were used and probably a lot of alcohol prior to that.

I understand, but where did that information come from? I didn't just make it up. There was a source. True, it's not vetted. But the cigarette thing sure doesn't hold water. And color me stupid, but JR is pretty much defined as gay. So if Joseph wasn't, and JR is, and as well with a troubled, criminal, sociopath history, then what? Could explain things, JMO

 

[njcrimegirl]

I understand, but where did that information come from? I didn't just make it up. There was a source. True, it's not vetted. But the cigarette thing sure doesn't hold water. And color me stupid, but JR is pretty much defined as gay. So if Joseph wasn't, and JR is, and as well with a troubled, criminal, sociopath history, then what? Could explain things, JMO

Definitely a night of cocaine and steroids. But the real question here - that everyone is missing - is WHY ARENT LD and JR charged with murder????? What mistakes were made by the Police and the DA's office that are preventing the REAL killers from paying for this crime?????? This point needs MAJOR publicity!!!!!!!!

 

[Momoffourboys]

Definitely a night of cocaine and steroids. But the real question here - that everyone is missing - is WHY ARENT LD and JR charged with murder????? What mistakes were made by the Police and the DA's office that are preventing the REAL killers from paying for this crime?????? This point needs MAJOR publicity!!!!!!!!

No major publicity. Just a mention. High priced attorneys. Powerful families. Maybe LE mishandling info/evidence/suspects.

NYPD treatment of suspects in fatal NYC party stabbing could make comments to police inadmissible in court, sources say

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Sources said cops held the pair for an unusually long time before formally arresting them — in an effort to pressure them into cooperating — a move that could make their comments inadmissible in court.

Prosecutors are aware that defense lawyers could move to strike whatever was said to police from making it to trial, sources said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/suspect-charged-connecticut-man-stabbing-death-article-1.2900616

 

[Niner]

Just a few thoughts!

snipped by me....
"A law-enforcement source claims that the murder of Joseph Comunale close to two weeks ago was over a pack of cigarettes
Comunale, 26, was at the apartment of James Rackover with Lawrence Dilione, when he told his host he was going to get smokes
Dilione, 28, reportedly told police that after Rackhouse refused to let Comunale leave, Comnunale said to the host: 'What are you going to do?'

Oh geez.... over a pack of cigarettes?? 9 (or over a dozen?) stab wounds over a pack of cigarettes?? Got to be something else.... I was thinking - maybe when they (or JR) were stabbing him, he fell over a balcony and that's why his pelvis is broken?

snipped by me...
Why? Given what we know, what scenario makes sense? We've tried a few out, but none answer all the questions.

Yes, question is WHY?? Doesn't make sense to me either. A senseless murder...

Also, I Heard on 1010 that LE is putting pressure on MG and expect him to break and tell what he knows. His attorney thinks charging him is just a ploy to get the goods on the other two.

Good ploy!

snipped by me...
My best guess is that JR/LD/MG(?) were trying to hook it up with the 3 women that came over, and Joey was wary of them dudes and protected the women. I'm thinking he walked them out and then returned to the apartment either a.) to confront the other dudes for their behavior towards the women, or b.) to party more, not thinking the situation with the girls was even a big deal. Those girls were very lucky to have been with Joe that night.
I do think drugs were involved in the sense they were being used by most or all of the people present, but I don't believe the murder was a result of drug debt or something.

Sounds like a "good" guess - we shall see, eh? I too think drugs were involved - but only the 3 indicted.

snipped by me...
(sorry I don't know how to double quote),

on the very right side next to the Reply with Quote - there are quotes (" ") with a plus sign (+) - hit that and keep hitting that for every quote you want to do, then on the very last one you quote - hit "Reply with Quote"; you should get all the quotes you want. Be sure to start typing after the [ / quote ] and then go to the next quote... I hope that makes sense?!

dropped from the window or fell??

going to post this and continue reading the next page.

 

[Satchie]

Definitely a night of cocaine and steroids. But the real question here - that everyone is missing - is WHY ARENT LD and JR charged with murder????? What mistakes were made by the Police and the DA's office that are preventing the REAL killers from paying for this crime?????? This point needs MAJOR publicity!!!!!!!!

Assuming only one person used the knife, and it wasn't a plot hatched ahead of time, they can't charge both with murder just because they're too impatient to wait for more evidence. Maybe the detailed forensic analysis and lab results on the body/clothing etc will allow them to pinpoint the killer, maybe one of the accomplices will talk, maybe they'll find the knife and it will have the killers DNA.

LE and DA's office will take all the time they need to put together the evidence of who exactly stabbed him and, if possible, why. If they cannot prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt, the jury won't convict and it will all have been a waste of time.

 

[Inthedetails]

Definitely a night of cocaine and steroids. But the real question here - that everyone is missing - is WHY ARENT LD and JR charged with murder????? What mistakes were made by the Police and the DA's office that are preventing the REAL killers from paying for this crime?????? This point needs MAJOR publicity!!!!!!!!

Nobody has been charged with murder yet, right?

But that doesn't mean someone won't be charged in the future. There is no statute of limitations on murder - the murderer can be charged at any time with murder from now until the end of their lives (hopefully sooner rather than later!).

It's not necessarily true that LE made mistakes (just because a defense lawyer is squawking, it doesn't make it true).

jmopinion

 

[Momoffourboys]

LD and JR due back in court tomorrow.

https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/webcrim_attorney/DefendantSearch

 

[epiphany]

Perhaps, it's more complicated than one or other used a knife to stab him.

The other could have pinned him down, or held him allowing the one to stab him to death. Both would be responsible for murder.

 

[njcrimegirl]

LD and JR due back in court tomorrow.

https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/webcrim_attorney/DefendantSearch

Thats why I'm bringing this up today. They should be charged tomorrow, but they won't be. The cops & the DA are fighting, they are using Max Gemma as a pawn, and no one gets charged with murder. Use Max Gemma as the witness he IS, give him immunity & drop the indictment against him! Then they will get the info they need to charge the RIGHT guys with murder!!

 

[Inthedetails]

Thats why I'm bringing this up today. They should be charged tomorrow, but they won't be. The cops & the DA are fighting, they are using Max Gemma as a pawn, and no one gets charged with murder. Use Max Gemma as the witness he IS, give him immunity & drop the indictment against him! Then they will get the info they need to charge the RIGHT guys with murder!!

It would be great if murder charges happened tomorrow, but if no one is charged with murder now, it doesn't mean they won't be later.

It's strange that other charges are happening but not the murder charge, but it's not necessarily dire.

jmopinion

 

[njcrimegirl]

It would be great if murder charges happened tomorrow, but if no one is charged with murder now, it doesn't mean they won't be later.

It's strange that other charges are happening but not the murder charge, but it's not necessarily dire.

jmopinion

Originally Posted by Momoffourboys
Also, I Heard on 1010 that LE is putting pressure on MG and expect him to break and tell what he knows. His attorney thinks charging him is just a ploy to get the goods on the other two.

Today is the day. Back to court for LD and JR. If they gave MG immunity, maybe they would have the info they need to charge LD and/or JR with murder. Now all they have is 3 suspects that have no incentive to roll on one another. Seems like a really bad strategy. Drop MG's indictment, give him immunity, and charge these guys with MURDER! Sorry, but 15 stab wounds does NOT sound like an accident.

 

[Inthedetails]

Originally Posted by Momoffourboys
Also, I Heard on 1010 that LE is putting pressure on MG and expect him to break and tell what he knows. His attorney thinks charging him is just a ploy to get the goods on the other two.

Today is the day. Back to court for LD and JR. If they gave MG immunity, maybe they would have the info they need to charge LD and/or JR with murder. Now all they have is 3 suspects that have no incentive to roll on one another. Seems like a really bad strategy. Drop MG's indictment, give him immunity, and charge these guys with MURDER! Sorry, but 15 stab wounds does NOT sound like an accident.

I think we all agree it was not an accident. I wish one of the guys would spill the beans, and perhaps one still will. In the meantime, LE gathers the hard evidence that will be needed fir a murder charge. Fingers crossed they are making progress and don't need to rely on someone who doesn't tell the truth on his own out of decency and justice. Jmo

 

[Momoffourboys]

Originally Posted by Momoffourboys
Also, I Heard on 1010 that LE is putting pressure on MG and expect him to break and tell what he knows. His attorney thinks charging him is just a ploy to get the goods on the other two.

Today is the day. Back to court for LD and JR. If they gave MG immunity, maybe they would have the info they need to charge LD and/or JR with murder. Now all they have is 3 suspects that have no incentive to roll on one another. Seems like a really bad strategy. Drop MG's indictment, give him immunity, and charge these guys with MURDER! Sorry, but 15 stab wounds does NOT sound like an accident.

BBM

Not so fast. Who knows what MG's involvement was? His attorney works for him.

 

[Inthedetails]

BBM

Not so fast. Who knows what MG's involvement was? His attorney works for him.

Exactly.

jmo

 

[PLT]

I think we all agree it was not an accident. I wish one of the guys would spill the beans, and perhaps one still will. In the meantime, LE gathers the hard evidence that will be needed fir a murder charge. Fingers crossed they are making progress and don't need to rely on someone who doesn't tell the truth on his own out of decency and justice. Jmo

I think if LD or MG had to spend as much time in jail as JR they would have cracked by now but unfortunately they had the resources /funds to finance their freedom. I don't want to see a deal made for any of them - ideally they will all be sentenced to the max for such inhumane acts ......but if one deal has to be made to topple the tower of lies I can understand. I do hope that LE is not offering any such deals because they are building a solid case and will bring that evidence forth when it is time. We haven't heard a peep from the women, the building staff or other friends that were out that night nor anything about phone records/texts. Even the cab driver who drove the women could have information. Let's hope all of this is all being pieced together and LE has enough evidence.

The knife hasn't been found as far as we know but it seems it could only be within the places LD /JR travelled or MG took it with him which would explain the tampering with evidence charge.

 

[Momoffourboys]

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...Grad-Murder-Case-Joey-Comunale-406219845.html

Suspects to be arraigned...

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There’s a chance new evidence from Rackover’s apartment will bring new charges,