A few questions some of you might be able to offer some insight on:
1). How exactly does a "gated community" work? I assume there is a gate with a locking mechanism, or a guard posted at the gate, correct? So then, how do landscapers, workmen, postal workers, guests of residents, etc. enter the community? Do they ring someone? Push in a code? Have a slide card? How do emergency vehicles (police, rescue,FD) enter the gates? How would SG's "driver" have entered?
2). Does anyone know if the OBCA contracts with a lawn or landscaping company? I know the individual residents are likely responsible for the upkeep on their own properties, but is there property that belongs to the CA itself? If so, who maintains that? Anyone know?
As I recall from their FB page, they talked with the doctor a second time when they went to the area to search for Shannen. At that time, he acknowledged calling them, but denied telling them he had kept Shannen at his "shelter" or whatever he called it. They were very puzzled that he would make the call, admit it, but then later deny that he told them she stayed at his "shelter". It wasn't something they would have imagined or made up.
omg...this thing feels like a weird upwardly mobile suburbanite sex club thing...like maybe the guys order up a girl and pass her around the cul de sac or whatever it is there.
if they arranged the driver, then they would have just booked it one way, right? cause she wouldn't need a ride home...right...or maybe a ride to another house down the road...? so she must have booked her driver right?
something spooked her...at JB's or somewhere near by...if she named her attacker...then it shouldn't be so hard for the cops to make sense of this...
I wish I could hear that damm tape!
You know, ordinarily I would find that an absurb thought, but there is something just...well, STRANGE, about this community. The feel of the OBCA website, the evening of SG's disappearance, JB & PH both odd characters imo, the way all these OBCA people socialize as a group...just odd. It almost has a kind of Stepford Wives feel to me. And yes, I know that's not rational, but it's still the way I walk away from this community feeling. Can't describe it any better than that, so I won't try. But I can tell that MANY of you are feeling the same hinky feeling.
Ok, LE is having a press conference tomorrow at 1pm. They are either close to an arrest or are pleading for the public's help. I think the former.
I think the Dr. is 100% innocent and that JB, who knows everyone in the development, used his name to assuage the worried family of SG. They were in full damage control and wanted to take the heat off and send the family on their merry way.
Everything points to JB and I think he had accomplices. As I said before, this whole driver issue is really murky. I think LE will clean that up tomorrow. I want to know who the Asian guy is. I wan't to know why JB tole SG's sister that he told SG that she looked nothing like her picture and told her to leave, when we know she was there at least 3 hours. A lot of inconsistencies and a lot that points to JB.
I happen to think that if SG had a driver that night he was outside the gate and not aware of the exact address of JB. I think the gig was arranged through an Asian escort ring and JB procured women through this in the past.
If it's not JB, it's a guest of his. I think they knew he would/could lawyer up easily and deemed him "not a suspect" early on so they could get their ducks in a row. But I think he was a suspect from Day One, all roads are leading to him imo. I guess we'll know more tomorrow.
On another note, as far as what went on that night. I thing she was drugged, and came to and saw either pictures/footage that freaked her out, or some sort of evidence that she was about to be a victim and climbed out a bathroom window. JB summoned the Asian to get her while he got rid of evidence, with the assumption that LE would show up. Of course, they would have no reason to search his house yet, because she's not missing yet. Of course, she saw some bad things so they have to get her. And I think they did. Why she left the old man's house is a mystery, but maybe she thought she could get to the driver if he was on the other side of the gate.
That makes sense and could be possible. Like somebody said pages ago, usually sk's are caught over a mistake that they make The sk (if it's the doctor) seems to have made a mistake. We don't know what LE knows and it's frustrating.
(Oh, and for the record, the bad boys from the Quantico, VA Behavioral Science Unit have been on this case since December.)
I have to say that the doctor does look like what I think the sk looks like in my mind in terms of weight and age. I think he is between 48 and 55 years of age. However, I do have an imagination that can really go places at times.
Anyway, I'm flattered that you admire my posts. I just be reading, analyzing, pretending to be a well-versed profiler like John Douglas, and talking smack.
What do I know?
If the sk was going to make up a story for SG's family, wouldn't he try to tell them something that would get their attention away from that area? We have to remember that no bodies had been found yet.
Some of the descriptions of the landscape sound so spooky and desolate. Not like a place some sunny people would want to live. You think?
Hi, Fashionella; I think that "nervous" comes with the territory of being identified as the john who employed a young woman who went missing. As for the "I've had a very nice life", it comes immediately after his statements that he is not the victim, the family is, and that he is fortunate.
I think that the most significant quote on the tape is the statement by the police official that Mr. Brewer "has been most cooperative." That acknowledgment would weaken any prosecution. I honestly think that the police don't think of him as a prime target. And, from what has been public so far, I think that they are right.
I've stated it before that there is something strange about people on LI. Not all people, of course, but enough to leave you driving away thinking, "These people are strange..."
I wonder if Dr. Hackett was at the party that night.
As I recall from their FB page, they talked with the doctor a second time when they went to the area to search for Shannen. At that time, he acknowledged calling them, but denied telling them he had kept Shannen at his "shelter" or whatever he called it. They were very puzzled that he would make the call, admit it, but then later deny that he told them she stayed at his "shelter". It wasn't something they would have imagined or made up.
does anyone know if the drivers carry a gun? would they have a concealed weapon permit allowed due to the nature of their job? not just driving around expensive girls, any client for that matter could potentially be a threat.
if shannon was trying to get back to the driver, why not just scream out to him when he ran into the house? instead she accused the driver and jb of trying to kill her.
now it's possible that's now how the event went down and we are just hearing jb and the drivers' versions. yet these drivers need to be prepared to get those girls out of a hostile situation with a john, they are supposed to be able to protect the girls.
the driver claims he ran out of the house after shannon, yet gc says the driver creeped up in the suv, opened the door, peeped out, then did it again.
its not like the driver was yelling out for shannon he was all stealth about it. gc had to ask him what he was doing.
Good question. Maybe he got it from Shannan's cell phone. He killed her so he had access to her cell phone which I'm sure she had momma's phone number. Did the family hang up fliers in the neighborhood with the phone number? That's possible.
A few questions some of you might be able to offer some insight on:
1). How exactly does a "gated community" work? I assume there is a gate with a locking mechanism, or a guard posted at the gate, correct? So then, how do landscapers, workmen, postal workers, guests of residents, etc. enter the community? Do they ring someone? Push in a code? Have a slide card? How do emergency vehicles (police, rescue,FD) enter the gates? How would SG's "driver" have entered?
2). Does anyone know if the OBCA contracts with a lawn or landscaping company? I know the individual residents are likely responsible for the upkeep on their own properties, but is there property that belongs to the CA itself? If so, who maintains that? Anyone know?