NY-Long Island-Four bodies found on Beach-Possible Serial Killer-Dec 2010 #1

[chemcopout]

this epstein character served part of his sentence in a VACANT section of a palm beach jail???? so he could get the special treament i'm sure.

we were watching a show on investigation discovery another 48 or something and a murder suspect was able to take off his ankle bracelet on house arrest. he also was able to get away with the murder.

so i wouldn't put nothing past epstein, with his high profile connections and money.

these girls seem a little too old for his taste. disgusting those 2, makes one wonder about prince andrew, probably another perv

 

[chemcopout]

You are right Pinkhammer! His staff does it for him.

http://www.businessinsider.com/mone...culous-sense-of-humor-about-pedophilia-2010-7


Staff troll for fresh recruits to make sure Epstein had two or three massage appointments each day

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/mone...f-humor-about-pedophilia-2010-7#ixzz1EsZ7vJf9

I believe it was The Daily Beast Article which stated he paid the girls 200.00 for their services, they were paid more depending on how far they were willing to go. This amt is nothing compared to his net worth.

The high priced girls are probably reserved for impressing his billionaire friends.

I like exploring all options. And while it is unseemly that he would be a killer, we just don't know the extent of his kinkiness. Maybe he likes the choking game and these girls deaths were unintended, who knows? He could be a wolf in sheeps clothing. He is described as a narcissist so he probably feels like he is above reproach or suspicion!

BTW, I was appalled and sickened by some of the comments at above link condoning this sickos criminal behavior.

Respectfully,
wm

p.s. I highly doubt that he would be the person disposing of the bodies. He would have one of his henchman do it. I still feel the origination of the burlap could be from having artifacts shipped from overseas.

ita, matilda and he has the money to cover up his crimes to great lengths.
he could be into s&m or lord knows what.

or the killer of these girls could fit a similiar profile, rich, narcissist who either dumps bodies or has them dumped for him right near his home since he is oh so over confident that he won't be caught.

 

[waltzingmatilda]

this epstein character served part of his sentence in a VACANT section of a palm beach jail???? so he could get the special treament i'm sure.

we were watching a show on investigation discovery another 48 or something and a murder suspect was able to take off his ankle bracelet on house arrest. he also was able to get away with the murder.

so i wouldn't put nothing past epstein, with his high profile connections and money.

these girls seem a little too old for his taste. disgusting those 2, makes one wonder about prince andrew, probably another perv

http://www.businessinsider.com/epstein-defense-for-pedophiles-2010-8

This link gives details of JE's faux incarceration.


On October 29, 2007, Florida’s attorney general signed a plea deal with Jeffrey E. Epstein, a wealthy New York hedge-fund manager. Epstein had been arrested in Palm Beach, but after a two-year FBI probe his high-powered lawyers were able to negotiate an agreement that allowed him to plead guilty to only two counts of solicitation of prostitution with a minor, rather than all five counts of child sex-trafficking charges stipulated in the final Non Prosecution Agreement.

The “work release” sentence allowed him a private cell on a VIP floor, away from the other inmates, due to “security reasons.” Epstein was also able to leave the county jail at 6 a.m. every morning and return every night by 10 p.m.

After 13 months, Epstein was released, without having to submit to wearing an electronic monitor; all told, the mogul served 18 months of “community control.

And today, he is free to roam the 100 acres of Little St. John, his private island in the U.S. Virgin Islands.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/epstein-defense-for-pedophiles-2010-8#ixzz1EuV13MAv

wm

 

[MLE]

I strongly agree with Tugela's remarks about prostitution, in the USA and Canada anyway.

The only part I might disagree with is that guys in their 20s are less likely to hire prostitutes. Young guys often have a lot of disposable income because they don't have a wife or children yet and many prefer having sex with prostitutes to having sex with girlfriends because a lot of young guys don't want to risk becoming a child support paying baby daddy, since American women will often go ahead and have children out of wedlock if they get pregnant.

I strongly agree that most prostitution in the USA is voluntary, particularly white American women. Most white American women working as prostitutes are doing so either to pay for a drug habit or to pay for college. I'm not saying they all are, but most are. The conveyor belt, 20 customers a day prostitutes are mostly women trafficked in from South Korea to work in those massage parlors that are ubiquitous throughout the USA. In those, the women ran up credit card debts in their homeland and are here to turn tricks until the card gets paid off so their parents and relatives won't lose their homes, because that's the way personal debt defaults work in South Korea and why so many are working as prostitutes here in America.

As for the weight of the victims... here on the farm when I've been carrying 50 pound bags of synthetic fertilizer or 80 pound bags of cement mix, I've often wished these products came in lighter bags. I'm guessing the killer has killed a 120 or 140 pound woman in the past and, while moving her dead body, he thought to himself, "Man, this is tiring! Why didn't I go for a 90 or 100 pounder?"

 

[relay]

It may be as simple as the killer is attracted to petite women, and it is coincidentally easier to discard remains of petite women.

 

[waltzingmatilda]

I have re-read the entire thread this am looking for additional clues. A few things stood out to me.

The victims were not wearing shoes. (Am I correct? I am a bit bleary eyed from researching the whole thread)

This could posssibly indicate the victims were murdered inside a residence where visitors are required to removed their shoes at the door.

Melissa Barthelemy was the 2nd victim reported missing. She disappeared on 7-12-09. She was small, 4'10", 95 lbs. Her family received calls from melissa's cell phone on 7-16-09, 7-19-09, (3 day interval) and 7-23-09 (4 day interval) The caller told M's sis that M' is a *advertiser censored*. The calls were made from midtown Manhattan, near Penn station and Madison Square Garden and by Times Square.

Epstein lives in Manhattan on E. 71st St. Any New Yorkers here? How close is this to the above mentioned locations?

Maureen Barnes was 4'11" and 105 lbs and was the first to disappear. She was last seen in July 2007 and was headed to New York City and planned to return home the next day.

Amber Costello disappeared in Sept 2010. She was 4'10", 100 lbs. A friend of hers described her as having 'the body of a child'. She also lived in Clearwater FL.

JE served a faux sentence in FL in 2008 for 18 months for soliciting underage girls for prostitution. He likes his sexual conquests to be of small stature apparently.

Epstein is a loner and quite mysterious per the nypost article. Why? He is a mathemetician and compares life experiences as a chess game per the same article.

I have no delusions of grandeur that Epstein would ever would ever be fingered as a serial killer even if he is our guy. He is too rich, too powerful, and would be protected by his rich clients who's money he invests and would not be willing to lose their boy wonder just because he killed a few hookers. Sorry to sound so uncaring about the victims but I am trying to be a realist in a hedgefund banker's man world. I think he sees women as disposable objects to be used and thrown away like trash.

I just can't let this go though. I don't know, call it gut instinct, intuition, profiling or whatever, but there is something about this guy that doesn't jive! (as far as i am concerned) Maybe I am beating a dead horse and my apologies if you all are tired of me discussing this possibility but it's the only lead I have right now that makes sense to me.

I am a bit uncomfortable even broaching this possibility considering how JE's henchmen allegedly intimidated the victims and investigators in the FL case.

These are my thoughts and opinions.

wm

 

[svpernin]

I have re-read the entire thread this am looking for additional clues. A few things stood out to me.

The victims were not wearing shoes. (Am I correct? I am a bit bleary eyed from researching the whole thread)

This could posssibly indicate the victims were murdered inside a residence where visitors are required to removed their shoes at the door.

Melissa Barthelemy was the 2nd victim reported missing. She disappeared on 7-12-09. She was small, 4'10", 95 lbs. Her family received calls from melissa's cell phone on 7-16-09, 7-19-09, (3 day interval) and 7-23-09 (4 day interval) The caller told M's sis that M' is a *advertiser censored*. The calls were made from midtown Manhattan, near Penn station and Madison Square Garden and by Times Square.

Epstein lives in Manhattan on E. 71st St. Any New Yorkers here? How close is this to the above mentioned locations?

Maureen Barnes was 4'11" and 105 lbs and was the first to disappear. She was last seen in July 2007 and was headed to New York City and planned to return home the next day.

Amber Costello disappeared in Sept 2010. She was 4'10", 100 lbs. A friend of hers described her as having 'the body of a child'. She also lived in Clearwater FL.

JE served a faux sentence in FL in 2008 for 18 months for soliciting underage girls for prostitution. He likes his sexual conquests to be of small stature apparently.

Epstein is a loner and quite mysterious per the nypost article. Why? He is a mathemetician and compares life experiences as a chess game per the same article.

I have no delusions of grandeur that Epstein would ever would ever be fingered as a serial killer even if he is our guy. He is too rich, too powerful, and would be protected by his rich clients who's money he invests and would not be willing to lose their boy wonder just because he killed a few hookers. Sorry to sound so uncaring about the victims but I am trying to be a realist in a hedgefund banker's man world. I think he sees women as disposable objects to be used and thrown away like trash.

I just can't let this go though. I don't know, call it gut instinct, intuition, profiling or whatever, but there is something about this guy that doesn't jive! (as far as i am concerned) Maybe I am beating a dead horse and my apologies if you all are tired of me discussing this possibility but it's the only lead I have right now that makes sense to me.

I am a bit uncomfortable even broaching this possibility considering how JE's henchmen allegedly intimidated the victims and investigators in the FL case.

These are my thoughts and opinions.

wm

WM, I'm not sure about the shoe thing. I know the AC victims were found barefoot but I don't think SCPD has released any info on what the LI victims were or weren't wearing.

True, three of the victims were extremely petite, but MW did not really fit that profile.

I am glad you're looking into Epstein, I think it's a possiblity that he could be involved in something like this but I cannot shake the whole SG/JB thing. I can't bring myself to believe that SG (an escort hired by JB) just coincidentially ran away from JB's house and was never seen again right by a location where FOUR bodies (also escorts) were later found.

Where the hell is SG?? And how come just because her body was not one of the four id'd, the cops and newspapers seemed to just dismiss JB as a suspect or even a person of interest? The last girl (as far as we know) went missing in Sept 2010. The search of JB's house and car was conducted in Dec. 2010, he had three solid months to clean up any evidence that may have remained.

add: the only thing i thought when they revealed that SG wasn't one of the four bodies was that there has to be another dump site.

This case is driving me insane and there have been no public developments in weeks. WE NEED INFO! Keep up the theories on here though, everyone. And let me know what you think about JB. I just cannot fathom the fact that he's not even a person of interest.

 

[chemcopout]

I have re-read the entire thread this am looking for additional clues. A few things stood out to me.

The victims were not wearing shoes. (Am I correct? I am a bit bleary eyed from researching the whole thread)

This could posssibly indicate the victims were murdered inside a residence where visitors are required to removed their shoes at the door.

Melissa Barthelemy was the 2nd victim reported missing. She disappeared on 7-12-09. She was small, 4'10", 95 lbs. Her family received calls from melissa's cell phone on 7-16-09, 7-19-09, (3 day interval) and 7-23-09 (4 day interval) The caller told M's sis that M' is a *advertiser censored*. The calls were made from midtown Manhattan, near Penn station and Madison Square Garden and by Times Square.

Epstein lives in Manhattan on E. 71st St. Any New Yorkers here? How close is this to the above mentioned locations?

Maureen Barnes was 4'11" and 105 lbs and was the first to disappear. She was last seen in July 2007 and was headed to New York City and planned to return home the next day.

Amber Costello disappeared in Sept 2010. She was 4'10", 100 lbs. A friend of hers described her as having 'the body of a child'. She also lived in Clearwater FL.

JE served a faux sentence in FL in 2008 for 18 months for soliciting underage girls for prostitution. He likes his sexual conquests to be of small stature apparently.

Epstein is a loner and quite mysterious per the nypost article. Why? He is a mathemetician and compares life experiences as a chess game per the same article.

I have no delusions of grandeur that Epstein would ever would ever be fingered as a serial killer even if he is our guy. He is too rich, too powerful, and would be protected by his rich clients who's money he invests and would not be willing to lose their boy wonder just because he killed a few hookers. Sorry to sound so uncaring about the victims but I am trying to be a realist in a hedgefund banker's man world. I think he sees women as disposable objects to be used and thrown away like trash.

I just can't let this go though. I don't know, call it gut instinct, intuition, profiling or whatever, but there is something about this guy that doesn't jive! (as far as i am concerned) Maybe I am beating a dead horse and my apologies if you all are tired of me discussing this possibility but it's the only lead I have right now that makes sense to me.

I am a bit uncomfortable even broaching this possibility considering how JE's henchmen allegedly intimidated the victims and investigators in the FL case.

These are my thoughts and opinions.

wm

wm, thank you for the link to epstein's so called "sentence" what a joke! he got a vip wing in the jail, all to himself. he got to leave at 6am and come back at 10pm every day. that is not jail, and our justice system unfairly reeks of pay offs!

as for our current case here, i used to have some asian friends. it was custom to take off our shoes when entering their house.

just a theory here, hear me out, i don't want to bias any type of anyone's thinking into a box.

what if the killer is asian? he may or may not be small in stature so he picks smaller girls he can overpower and carry easily. mle mentioned dragging 50lb bags of fertilizer and 80lb bags of cement and that is backbreaking.
also do we know what barthelemy's ethnic background is? she was the only one out of the girls that got harassing phone calls to her family.

on the other hand, maybe they are "disposed of" without shoes, as the killer doesn't want any evidence tracked via their shoes. carpet fibers, dog hairs, etc. or he could just save the shoes as a souvenir.

epstein is trash, yet i honestly don't think he's the guy in this case. he has way too much money and can go get away with murder in other countries were it's "legal" for him to pay off whoever he needs to. i saw a documentary awhile ago about men going to foreign countries to pay for child sex. if epstein owns his own island in the us virgin islands it'd be easier for him to kill there. no one would ever know.

the killer picks women of small stature for a reason. and for some weird reason he singled out barthelemy's family for harassment.

as for sg, i think her body will be found eventually in a different location. maybe she made a scene with the killer and he got mad. all these 4 girls were found at a dumpsite, we don't know where the primary crime scene is.

does anyone know if the girls were found naked aside from the burlap? if that is the case, likely the killer burned their clothes and shoes to get rid of evidence. he could always keep jewelry as a souvenir.

 

[waltzingmatilda]

wm, thank you for the link to epstein's so called "sentence" what a joke! he got a vip wing in the jail, all to himself. he got to leave at 6am and come back at 10pm every day. that is not jail, and our justice system unfairly reeks of pay offs!

as for our current case here, i used to have some asian friends. it was custom to take off our shoes when entering their house.

just a theory here, hear me out, i don't want to bias any type of anyone's thinking into a box.

what if the killer is asian? he may or may not be small in stature so he picks smaller girls he can overpower and carry easily. mle mentioned dragging 50lb bags of fertilizer and 80lb bags of cement and that is backbreaking.
also do we know what barthelemy's ethnic background is? she was the only one out of the girls that got harassing phone calls to her family.

on the other hand, maybe they are "disposed of" without shoes, as the killer doesn't want any evidence tracked via their shoes. carpet fibers, dog hairs, etc. or he could just save the shoes as a souvenir.

epstein is trash, yet i honestly don't think he's the guy in this case. he has way too much money and can go get away with murder in other countries were it's "legal" for him to pay off whoever he needs to. i saw a documentary awhile ago about men going to foreign countries to pay for child sex. if epstein owns his own island in the us virgin islands it'd be easier for him to kill there. no one would ever know.

the killer picks women of small stature for a reason. and for some weird reason he singled out barthelemy's family for harassment.

as for sg, i think her body will be found eventually in a different location. maybe she made a scene with the killer and he got mad. all these 4 girls were found at a dumpsite, we don't know where the primary crime scene is.

does anyone know if the girls were found naked aside from the burlap? if that is the case, likely the killer burned their clothes and shoes to get rid of evidence. he could always keep jewelry as a souvenir.

The more I think about it the less likely it seems to me that epstein is our perp. I think I got carried away with the NM murders and the fact the he has a home in that area too and also the fact that he had alot of disposable time on his hands during his incarceration.

You might just be onto something regarding an Asian perp. The Asian man who was looking for SG sounded menacing to me. Poor SG running for her life like she did had to be horrifying for her. I hope she is found soon and feel she is most likely deceased.

I agree that there is probably another burial spot. I don't recall hearing whether the LI victims were clothed or not. And spvernin clarified in above post that the AC victims were found without shoes. Not sure about the LI victims.

Geesh, I get confused trying to keep the details of the 2 cases separate.:crazy:

I appreciate all of your input re JE.

wm

 

[internetgirl101]

Why would the killer only harass Barthelemy’s family?
Waterman left her cell phone in her hotel room, therefore the killer wouldn’t have had access to her phone to make calls to her family. Maybe, out of the 4 women, the killer only had access to Barthelemy’s phone. Maybe she was the only one with a younger sister. And the calls were made on 7-16-09, 7-19-09, and 7-23-09, that’s a Thursday, a Sunday and then Thursday again…

I wonder what’s happening with the women’s cell phones and the mutual phone numbers.
I think the mutual numbers are irrelevant, honestly.. It’s inevitable that they will get a phone call from the same people who use craigslist. They all probably advertised in the same area, and probably did have a few clients in common. Maybe they had the same drug dealer. The person who killed them most likely used a different phone number each time anyway! So LE really just needs to find out who the women talked to the day of their disappearance.

A neighbor of Brewer recalled a suspicious U-Haul truck by his home late one night, a few months before the bodies were found.
Possibly around the time Costello went missing? And there is a U-Haul Company across the street from his discount liquor store on Higbie Lane in West Islip. Coincidence? Maybe…..If Brewer did kill these women, SCPD and everyone else on this case should be totally ashamed of themselves. I would hope they did a good enough search of his place and had good enough reason to rule him out.

I looked and looked for anything stating specifications about the bodies, if they were missing shoes, clothes, anything…BUT, then I noticed one of the images actually shows one of the skeletal remains. Looking at it, you can make out a skull and rib cage, actually very disturbing. Anyone see that? So, with that and the nature of their work, my GUESS would be they probably weren’t wearing anything.

 

[svpernin]

Why would the killer only harass Barthelemy’s family?
Waterman left her cell phone in her hotel room, therefore the killer wouldn’t have had access to her phone to make calls to her family. Maybe, out of the 4 women, the killer only had access to Barthelemy’s phone. Maybe she was the only one with a younger sister. And the calls were made on 7-16-09, 7-19-09, and 7-23-09, that’s a Thursday, a Sunday and then Thursday again…

I wonder what’s happening with the women’s cell phones and the mutual phone numbers.
I think the mutual numbers are irrelevant, honestly.. It’s inevitable that they will get a phone call from the same people who use craigslist. They all probably advertised in the same area, and probably did have a few clients in common. Maybe they had the same drug dealer. The person who killed them most likely used a different phone number each time anyway! So LE really just needs to find out who the women talked to the day of their disappearance.

A neighbor of Brewer recalled a suspicious U-Haul truck by his home late one night, a few months before the bodies were found.
Possibly around the time Costello went missing? And there is a U-Haul Company across the street from his discount liquor store on Higbie Lane in West Islip. Coincidence? Maybe…..If Brewer did kill these women, SCPD and everyone else on this case should be totally ashamed of themselves. I would hope they did a good enough search of his place and had good enough reason to rule him out.

I looked and looked for anything stating specifications about the bodies, if they were missing shoes, clothes, anything…BUT, then I noticed one of the images actually shows one of the skeletal remains. Looking at it, you can make out a skull and rib cage, actually very disturbing. Anyone see that? So, with that and the nature of their work, my GUESS would be they probably weren’t wearing anything.

Thanks for the post internetgirl, you picked up on a few key details that I totally missed. I vaguely remember hearing that Megan left her cell in her hotel room, I wonder why she did that? Maybe she didn't think she was going very far? It seems extra dangerous to be involved in something like escorting and meeting clients without bringing so much as a cell phone along with you. Maybe she had met with the killer before and trusted him so she left her phone behind. I feel like if it was a new/unfamiliar client, her bf/pimp/whatever he was would have brought her to the client and waited outside or something. But then again, he's not talking so who knows what his involvement was that night.

I agree that the taunt with Melissa's cell was probably the result of opportunity more than anything else. For whatever reason, out of all four (or more) women, maybe hers was the only cell he was able to hold onto for a little while. Maybe the others either didn't bring theirs or thier phones were destroyed in the struggle.

I also wasn't aware of the possible uhaul/liquor store connection. Maybe JB's close with the uhaul people and gets free rentals/barters from them, businesses do that all the time with their neighbors. I heard the story about JB renting a uhaul and loading it at night (with a friend, if I remember correctly) and found it a little odd. As I've said before, I don't really understand how they ruled him out as a suspect so quickly. The guy apparently has a family with several properties around LI, and as far as I know, they only searched the one on Oak Beach (though I've heard rumors about other searches, nothing official has been said in the papers or anything, they could very well have been untrue). Makes no sense to me that he wouldn't be a suspect or at least a MAJOR person of interest based on his interaction with SG, his place of residence, etc.

I completely agree that if he ends up being the guy, SCPD should hang their heads in shame for letting him get away for so long. Even if he's not the guy, their handling of SG's missing persons case was ridiculous. She should not be missing. They had ample time to get to her that night. Just my opinion.

 

[Peliman]

Who knows eh?

Laptop of pimp Akeem Cruz targeted in probe of slain bodies dumped on Long Island beach
BY John Marzulli and Alison Gendar
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

Saturday, March 5th 2011, 4:00 AM

A pimp of one of the slain craigslist hookers dumped on an isolated Long Island beach is in the feds' cross hairs.

FBI agents sought a search warrant this week to troll through the laptop of Akeem Cruz, a Brooklyn pimp and cocaine dealer, according to records filed in Brooklyn Federal Court.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_...obe_of_slain_bodies_dumped_on_long_islan.html

 

[Verity]

All I'm reading into this development is that neither he, nor the girl he gave his laptop to agreed to hand it over voluntarily, hence the need to get a search warrant. That's hardly surprising given the nature of what he was into, and maybe her as well. He's a pimp and a drug dealer, but I don't think he's the SK. What's the motive? This is just media spin.

According to the earlier report below, he was arrested and held without bail on Tuesday August 10th 2010, and would appear to have been incarcerated ever since on the drug charges.

Akeem Cruz arrested for drug trafficking: “Boyfriend” of Missing Megan Waterman, 22
Aug 11, 2010 6:53pm by Lostnmissing Cynthia Caron
Amplify’d from www.pressherald.com
Boyfriend of missing woman arrested on trafficking charge
By Ann S. Kim akim@mainetoday.com
Staff Writer
http://lostnmissing.amplify.com/201...cking-boyfriend-of-missing-megan-waterman-22/

 

[svpernin]

All I'm reading into this development is that neither he, nor the girl he gave his laptop to agreed to hand it over voluntarily, hence the need to get a search warrant. That's hardly surprising given the nature of what he was into, and maybe her as well. He's a pimp and a drug dealer, but I don't think he's the SK. What's the motive? This is just media spin.

According to the earlier report below, he was arrested and held without bail on Tuesday August 10th 2010, and would appear to have been incarcerated ever since on the drug charges.

Akeem Cruz arrested for drug trafficking: “Boyfriend” of Missing Megan Waterman, 22
Aug 11, 2010 6:53pm by Lostnmissing Cynthia Caron
Amplify’d from www.pressherald.com
Boyfriend of missing woman arrested on trafficking charge
By Ann S. Kim akim@mainetoday.com
Staff Writer
http://lostnmissing.amplify.com/201...cking-boyfriend-of-missing-megan-waterman-22/

So was Akeem still incarcerated when Amber Costello went missing in early September? I hope they find info. on his laptop that will lead them to Megan's last client because like like you said, I don't think he's the SK either. But I do think he knows something that could crack the case wide open.

 

[Verity]

So was Akeem still incarcerated when Amber Costello went missing in early September? I hope they find info. on his laptop that will lead them to Megan's last client because like like you said, I don't think he's the SK either. But I do think he knows something that could crack the case wide open.

Now I look more closely, he's been in and out of jail repeatedly, so I don't know, you'd have to check court records.

It doesn't say whether he made bail or not on his first appearance August 11th. http://www.sunjournal.com/state/story/892422

There's some interesting background on him here: http://www.longislandpress.com/2010...-on-long-island-some-matter-prostitutes-dont/

The March 5th 2011 NY Daily News reports that court records show he was busted in October on a drug charge, but I read that as the trial for the earlier arrest.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_...odies_dumped_on_long_islan.html#ixzz1FnjRETGx

The Daily News also says, "The feds sought a search warrant to go through its contents with an "abundance of caution," the document said." What does "abundance of caution" mean?

 

[chemcopout]

All I'm reading into this development is that neither he, nor the girl he gave his laptop to agreed to hand it over voluntarily, hence the need to get a search warrant. That's hardly surprising given the nature of what he was into, and maybe her as well. He's a pimp and a drug dealer, but I don't think he's the SK. What's the motive? This is just media spin.

According to the earlier report below, he was arrested and held without bail on Tuesday August 10th 2010, and would appear to have been incarcerated ever since on the drug charges.

Akeem Cruz arrested for drug trafficking: “Boyfriend” of Missing Megan Waterman, 22
Aug 11, 2010 6:53pm by Lostnmissing Cynthia Caron
Amplify’d from www.pressherald.com
Boyfriend of missing woman arrested on trafficking charge
By Ann S. Kim akim@mainetoday.com
Staff Writer
http://lostnmissing.amplify.com/201...cking-boyfriend-of-missing-megan-waterman-22/

i agree with you that i don't think he's the sk and that it's likely they were trying to hide their ill deeds of drug dealing and whatever else.

akeem was locked up august 2010 and amber lynn costello was last seen on sept 2, 2010

 

[chemcopout]

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/fbi-wants-laptop-from-man-linked-to-victim-1.2735238

"A law enforcement source said yesterday that the search-warrant request was part of a federal investigation into human trafficking that is distinct from the Gilgo Beach slaying case."

it seems the feds interest in akeem's laptop is due to human trafficking. the "abundance of caution" term is really a banking term (termed by and used by lenders). i'm guessing it has a different meaning in this case, probably they just mean they are going to go over the contents with a fine tooth comb. they'll look for every little thing.
this cruz guy seems in over his head with all sorts of illegal activities.


the article also mentions the laptop was given to le by someone who lived with cruz and was given the laptop by a woman who was a friend of cruz after he got arrested on the drug charges in oct.

cruz seems to be involved in human trafficking and on the laptop they found a reference to waterman:

"The affidavit outlines a timeline for movements of a woman, referred to as "Female-1" from Maine, who worked as a prostitute for Cruz that are similar to the last known activities of Waterman."

 

[trigger]

I don't think Akeem is the SK but maybe he had contact with the SK and set up GF Megan to meet with him???

 

[chemcopout]

Thanks for the post internetgirl, you picked up on a few key details that I totally missed. I vaguely remember hearing that Megan left her cell in her hotel room, I wonder why she did that? Maybe she didn't think she was going very far? It seems extra dangerous to be involved in something like escorting and meeting clients without bringing so much as a cell phone along with you. Maybe she had met with the killer before and trusted him so she left her phone behind. I feel like if it was a new/unfamiliar client, her bf/pimp/whatever he was would have brought her to the client and waited outside or something. But then again, he's not talking so who knows what his involvement was that night.

I agree that the taunt with Melissa's cell was probably the result of opportunity more than anything else. For whatever reason, out of all four (or more) women, maybe hers was the only cell he was able to hold onto for a little while. Maybe the others either didn't bring theirs or thier phones were destroyed in the struggle.

I also wasn't aware of the possible uhaul/liquor store connection. Maybe JB's close with the uhaul people and gets free rentals/barters from them, businesses do that all the time with their neighbors. I heard the story about JB renting a uhaul and loading it at night (with a friend, if I remember correctly) and found it a little odd. As I've said before, I don't really understand how they ruled him out as a suspect so quickly. The guy apparently has a family with several properties around LI, and as far as I know, they only searched the one on Oak Beach (though I've heard rumors about other searches, nothing official has been said in the papers or anything, they could very well have been untrue). Makes no sense to me that he wouldn't be a suspect or at least a MAJOR person of interest based on his interaction with SG, his place of residence, etc.

I completely agree that if he ends up being the guy, SCPD should hang their heads in shame for letting him get away for so long. Even if he's not the guy, their handling of SG's missing persons case was ridiculous. She should not be missing. They had ample time to get to her that night. Just my opinion.

it does seem very odd that megan didn't bring her cell with her and left it at the hotel. would it be possible that some of the other girls did have cell phones on them, in which the killer disposed of? what you mention makes sense, either maybe megan had met the killer before and built up a facade of "trust", or wasn't going very far. maybe she had a "hired guard" or friend of her pimp around the area nearby. (not that he would have done any good).
these girls know the dangers that are out there, they have to be street smart. sometimes even street smarts can't save one and that is not good.



maybe he got smart after calling barthelemy's family and figured that le might try and trace his calls.

usually these girls carry 2 phones (work and non-work).
i wish megan's boyfriend/pimp would talk. does anyone know if akeem is the father of megan's 4 year old daughter, Liliana? i am going to take a guess he isn't the father.
the only reason i mention is if he is the father, you'd think he'd want to do everything he could to find the killer of his baby's mother. i know we're used to reading all sorts of horrific things in here, yet there are good parents out there still. it's mentioned that cruz urged waterman into prostituting and he, of course, being her pimp. he seems to be concerned with making money more than anything else.

"Friends and family said Waterman worked as a prostitute at the urging of her boyfriend, Akeem Cruz, who accompanied her to Hauppauge, N.Y., in June and is currently serving a 20-month sentence in the Maine Correctional Center in Windham for drug trafficking."
http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/...erman-suspected-murder-victim_2011-01-30.html

cruz seems to have quite the rap sheet including:

"Cruz was arrested in an unrelated case Tuesday, June 15. He was charged with criminal threatening with a dangerous weapon and criminal mischief, for allegedly threatening a woman with a knife and slashing her tires."
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20008173-504083.html


i do agree that le should keep jb in their sights, and i'm sure they are. it'd be reckless for them not to.

it's very sad that so many killers target prostitutes. they know that le won't take it seriously at first, they may be hard to track down whereabouts, lack of interest & public opinion.

i agree wholeheartedly with what you said, svpernin, that they are mothers, sisters, daughters. it is also true that serial killers will escalate to killing non-prostitutes once they "evolve".

this is sad and in a way reminds me of the murders in jenning,la. at least i have more faith in le here.

 

[svpernin]

it does seem very odd that megan didn't bring her cell with her and left it at the hotel. would it be possible that some of the other girls did have cell phones on them, in which the killer disposed of? what you mention makes sense, either maybe megan had met the killer before and built up a facade of "trust", or wasn't going very far. maybe she had a "hired guard" or friend of her pimp around the area nearby. (not that he would have done any good).
these girls know the dangers that are out there, they have to be street smart. sometimes even street smarts can't save one and that is not good.



maybe he got smart after calling barthelemy's family and figured that le might try and trace his calls.

usually these girls carry 2 phones (work and non-work).
i wish megan's boyfriend/pimp would talk. does anyone know if akeem is the father of megan's 4 year old daughter, Liliana? i am going to take a guess he isn't the father.
the only reason i mention is if he is the father, you'd think he'd want to do everything he could to find the killer of his baby's mother. i know we're used to reading all sorts of horrific things in here, yet there are good parents out there still. it's mentioned that cruz urged waterman into prostituting and he, of course, being her pimp. he seems to be concerned with making money more than anything else.

"Friends and family said Waterman worked as a prostitute at the urging of her boyfriend, Akeem Cruz, who accompanied her to Hauppauge, N.Y., in June and is currently serving a 20-month sentence in the Maine Correctional Center in Windham for drug trafficking."
http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/...erman-suspected-murder-victim_2011-01-30.html

cruz seems to have quite the rap sheet including:

"Cruz was arrested in an unrelated case Tuesday, June 15. He was charged with criminal threatening with a dangerous weapon and criminal mischief, for allegedly threatening a woman with a knife and slashing her tires."
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20008173-504083.html


i do agree that le should keep jb in their sights, and i'm sure they are. it'd be reckless for them not to.

it's very sad that so many killers target prostitutes. they know that le won't take it seriously at first, they may be hard to track down whereabouts, lack of interest & public opinion.

i agree wholeheartedly with what you said, svpernin, that they are mothers, sisters, daughters. it is also true that serial killers will escalate to killing non-prostitutes once they "evolve".

this is sad and in a way reminds me of the murders in jenning,la. at least i have more faith in le here.

Hey chem, thanks for your post. I am almost positive that Akeem is not Liliana's father. I think Megan only knew Akeem for about a year before she was murdered. Liliana is about 4 years old now. Either way, seems like he didn't care about Megan at all and only cared about the money she could make for him. He knows something and it's only a matter of time before LE finds out what he knows.

I COMPLETELY agree with what you said about serial killers "evolving." Most serial killers seem to pick women who work in dangerous lifestyles (ie escorts) because they are easy prey and it takes longer for them to be reported missing. This guy has been getting away with murder for years now. If they don't catch him now, it's possible that he will become more bold and start abducting women from all walks of life. Just another reason why I believe the general public should be on higher alert around here. As always, these are just my opinions.

Keep up the sleuthing, all! I am very glad there seems to be some momentum in this case. These families deserve justice!