Yes. I’d imagine police confirmed that time across multiple recording devices.Is there any chance the doorbell camera time was off or inaccurate?
Yes. I’d imagine police confirmed that time across multiple recording devices.Is there any chance the doorbell camera time was off or inaccurate?
One thing worth mentioning is that the bag she was in was already at the house. I find that interesting and a new tidbit.
"If you want to kill somebody, you try to make it a little cleaner, be a little more prepared. He didn’t go with something to move her body. He took something from the house."
Orsolya Gaal slay: Law enforcement sources explain why sloppy slaughter probably wasn’t planned
Something about the dog having no reaction doesn't sit right with me... do we know where the dog is at the time? Was the dog said to be locked in the room with the son?Based on the timeline kindly provided by mcmlxxix, here are the things I am wondering (and no accusation is intended at any point, I'd like to clarify):
1) Regardless of his location at the time of the murder, over a period of nearly 10 hours, the son must have left the room and removed his headphones. Even the most stalwart gamer goes foraging for food, drink, and/or a bathroom break.
2) When OG returned home the first time, did she check in with her son? My instinct would be to do that, but each family is different and we don't know the dynamics.
3) Did the house have a security system of any sort? Cameras, alarms? Not everyone has them (we don't), but it seems like the kind of neighborhood and the kind of family that would invest in such a thing.
4) How did OG get to town, return from town and then go to and from the bar? It's obvious she was still dressed to go out, but are the garments she was wearing what one would wear to the opera?
5) Was the bar on last call? Were there many other patrons, or was she one of few?
6) If the perp took the phone/purse, and the phone has been found, where is the purse?
7) Still wondering about the dog...did she let the dog out, and then peek in on her son, leave the dog with him?
8) If she was killed on the first floor and moved to the basement, even with noise-canceling headphones, wouldn't the dog react if it was in the room with the son? It seems like a breed of dog that would react rather insistently at sensing any disruption.
The whole thing seems clunky to me. The person on the video doesn't seem like a man she would have been having a relationship with; there is something gangly and slightly awkward about the walk...not just because of the bag (she doesn't seem to have been very heavy...), but something about a young person who still hasn't a firm grasp on their personal space?
MOO all of this. No accusations made at all. Just throwing questions out for chewing on if anyone wants them.
The handyman ex-lover wanted for questioning is an interesting development..
Apologies if this has been addressed previously, but how do LE know that the murder took place at 12.40am?
Oh my goodness. Despite the age differences this makes me think of Tristyn Bailey in Florida. Overkill with the stab wounds (114 for her). Strong fit women taken by surprise and killed. The killers took hours to leave the kill site.I read about this case yesterday and it's very disturbing. I don't understand the point of taking her body a few blocks from her home and dumping it in plain sight. All the perp had to do was disappear from her home and leave her there. This sounds like a very passionate killing to me. The stabbing and then rolling her through the dark streets at night to just dump her? Strange! I don't think it was random at all, I think the killer was emotionally connected to her, if she died just after midnight then what was he doing for three hours?
Something about the dog having no reaction doesn't sit right with me... do we know where the dog is at the time? Was the dog said to be locked in the room with the son?
12.40am appears on the police posters asking for information, so they must be pretty certain of the time. (Photo of poster is shown in this article FYI: Slain NYC mom Orsolya Gaal's home had separate basement entrance, family electrician says | Fox News) Yes, could be from a Fitbit but wondering if they have any other evidence?I think it's just speculation but perhaps via a fitbit or similar device.
Maybe. I’ve wondered about that too. Would she board the dog? She seemed very attached like she’d get a dog friendly house in MI, but I have no idea.Just speculatingbut dog had been seen earlier Friday with OG in back yard. Maybe since there was travel to MI coming up, the dog was boarded? Not sure though.
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2. Clean-up is the only thing I can think of. This doesn't look like something planned at all. Police don't think this was a pre-meditated murder, and the killing itself indicates a crime of extreme passion. It's also been reported that the body was moved to the basement. If the perp were thinking clearly, he would have realized that getting the bag from the basement and bringing it upstairs would mean only having to pull the bag down the front steps, instead of up the basement steps. I'm thinking there was a lot of frantic, somewhat fruitless attempts to clean up.<snipped>.
I imagine that 1240 am is the time of death assigned by the coroner. Most likely determined by things like core body temperature, pooling of blood and rigor mortis or lack there of.The handyman ex-lover wanted for questioning is an interesting development..
Apologies if this has been addressed previously, but how do LE know that the murder took place at 12.40am?