Found Alive NY - Rachael Mattice, 24, Wells, 22 June 2016

[TTF14]

Forgive my ignorance, but what does the word 'hinky' mean? :thinking:

Suspicious.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

I think los meant put her name in the search bar and you can see what others are saying about her. (Take out her last name.)

Semi OT... I just wanted to thank you for explaining how to do a search for comments/ posts on FB by putting RM's name in the search bar. I didn't know how to do this before and I've found it QUITE helpful!

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[LLLindsayy]

http://news10.com/2016/07/08/little...sly-shows-up-after-going-missing-for-2-weeks/


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[LLLindsayy]

https://twitter.com/Rachelon10

Rachel Yonkunas ‏@Rachelon10 · 30m30 minutes ago

Police continue investigation into what happened to Rachael Mattice, telling me new details are expected to come out by tomorrow.

Rachel Yonkunas ‏@Rachelon10 · 28m28 minutes ago

We speak with a family of Rachael who is finally able to visit with her, looking forward to give her the hug he's been saving for 2.5 weeks.

 

[TTF14]

https://twitter.com/Rachelon10

I hope that's true that we'll get more information tomorrow.

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[simba16]

htxtp://news10.com/2016/07/08/little-answers-after-rachael-mattice-mysteriously-shows-up-after-going-missing-for-2-weeks/
From the link: Lattice provided general description of abductor and will meet with sketch artist next week "if she can remember her abductor" ? I would think there would be more urgency for the public if there's a stranger abductor lurking. Sheriff asked if anyone saw something suspicious July 6 12:30-1 am in area of Cayadutta and Warren St. That would be drop off area I guess. No mention of abduction point.

 

[Cardinal47]

htxtp://news10.com/2016/07/08/little-answers-after-rachael-mattice-mysteriously-shows-up-after-going-missing-for-2-weeks/
From the link: Lattice provided general description of abductor and will meet with sketch artist next week "if she can remember her abductor" ? I would think there would be more urgency for the public if there's a stranger abductor lurking. Sheriff asked if anyone saw something suspicious July 6 12:30-1 am in area of Cayadutta and Warren St. That would be drop off area I guess. No mention of abduction point.

Wait I thought she got home at 12am and they called the sheriff within 15 minutes? Is the timing off?

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

htxtp://news10.com/2016/07/08/little-answers-after-rachael-mattice-mysteriously-shows-up-after-going-missing-for-2-weeks/
From the link: Lattice provided general description of abductor and will meet with sketch artist next week "if she can remember her abductor" ? I would think there would be more urgency for the public if there's a stranger abductor lurking. Sheriff asked if anyone saw something suspicious July 6 12:30-1 am in area of Cayadutta and Warren St. That would be drop off area I guess. No mention of abduction point.

BBM

Ummm... male....

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[LLLindsayy]

http://cbs6albany.com/news/local/sheriffs-office-reveal-new-details-after-return-of-missing-woman


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[TTF14]

http://cbs6albany.com/news/local/sheriffs-office-reveal-new-details-after-return-of-missing-woman


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So now it's early morning hours of the 23rd, not the evening of the 22nd. Why no details about the abduction? Was she dragged from her home?? Was someone waiting in her car when she went out to go to work in the morning??

 

[LLLindsayy]

Wait I thought she got home at 12am and they called the sheriff within 15 minutes? Is the timing off?

They've been saying she arrived at 12:45


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[LLLindsayy]

So now it's early morning hours of the 23rd, not the evening of the 22nd. Why no details about the abduction? Was she dragged from her home?? Was someone waiting in her car when she went out to go to work in the morning??

The 22nd was the last time she was seen or heard from. Having no cell phone reception at the camp, it's possible she could've been fine until the 23rd and not heard from. It is a possibility we tossed around here.


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[LLLindsayy]

http://m.timesunion.com/local/artic...e-case-to-be-8348601.php?cmpid=twitter-tablet


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[Fascinated1]

Jeanne Rysiewicz. From googling it looks like she's still missing. I know there's a WS thread on her, but I can't find it.


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Quick note: on FB she was posting as of March of this year - so looks like maybe happy ending here.

 

[Hatfield]

JMO
This is so strange. I don't know what to think. Something sure doesn't sound right.

I could see this going either way at this point. Either someone did take her and held her or something more voluntary occurred with someone she knew.

I think the information they did provide is what is causing the main frustration for the public. They have contradictory statements and made this much worse than it needed to be. Statements like this below causes this to be more of a mystery than it had to be. If they wanted to let LE do investigation and not share a lot of what happened then some of these statements should not have been stated the way they were by different people. Things like this in this article.

First we see this

""We are determined to find out who did this and bring them to justice," State Police Capt. Robert Patnaude said"

Then there is this right after that

"There is no manhunt and no request for the public to be on the lookout for any person, Abrams said."

Well which is it? You are either looking for the guy or you are not.

Then we see this

"Wendy Mattice said she could not tell many details about what her daughter told her, but said she was not surprised."

What is meant by not being surprised? I would be totally surprised at all of this if my family member was abducted and held?
So what does this mean?
And why in the world can she not talk about any of the details or at least generally say what happened?
If LE told her she must be quiet then say that at least.

She doesn't have to provide anything specific but don't leave the public hanging with a statement about not being surprised. We are now surprised that she is NOT surprised!!!

It makes this unnecessarily mysterious now.

And then to add this

""She's in and out of it. She's O.K., She talks, and then she cries,"

What? No she is not OK if she is going in and out and crying .

Wanting privacy is one thing and that would all be fine and dandy and even if LE wants to keep things under wraps until they complete their investigation but IMO they absolutely errored in the way they put out this information. Now they do owe the public more because of the things they threw out to the public like a big mystery puzzle. Nadda. You have to now give at least a couple more pieces before you can just ignore the public.

http://m.timesunion.com/local/article/Breaking-Rachael-Lynn-Mattice-found-safe-8342819.php

 

[Betty P]

htxtp://news10.com/2016/07/08/little-answers-after-rachael-mattice-mysteriously-shows-up-after-going-missing-for-2-weeks/
From the link: Lattice provided general description of abductor and will meet with sketch artist next week "if she can remember her abductor" ? I would think there would be more urgency for the public if there's a stranger abductor lurking. Sheriff asked if anyone saw something suspicious July 6 12:30-1 am in area of Cayadutta and Warren St. That would be drop off area I guess. No mention of abduction point.

Thanks for that link, it has some good information. Contrary to the previous media report, she did meet with LE today and is helping them identify her abductor.

I'm sure she's in a fragile emotional state after what she's been through. She may be ok physically, but she's probably terrified and exhausted.

 

[simba16]

It's not about hassling Mattice. She didn't ask for any publicity, searches. But now the public has been led to believe there's a dangerous abductor preying on women. If it was in my area I would be greatly concerned because I live in a remote area surrounded by acres of woods. LE needs to step it up. Why no manhunt? Have they polygraphed Mattice?

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

http://m.timesunion.com/local/article/Sketch-of-man-in-Rachael-Mattice-case-to-be-8348601.php

Sheriff Karl Abrams said Mattice was interviewed at State Police barracks in Mayfield Friday as a follow-up to an earlier interview, and was able to provide "a few" additional details about her disappearance in the Wells area, according to a news release.

BBM

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[Betty P]

It's not about hassling Mattice. She didn't ask for any publicity, searches. But now the public has been led to believe there's a dangerous abductor preying on women. If it was in my area I would be greatly concerned because I live in a remote area surrounded by acres of woods. LE needs to step it up. Why no manhunt? Have they polygraphed Mattice?

From the information that has been released so far, they can't hunt for someone they can't yet identify. It sounds to me like the kidnapper may have worn a disguise and prevented her from seeing where he was taking her. He took her and dropped her off in the middle of the night, so its likely no one saw him or his car. Her family says she's exhausted and stressed, so she likely didn't get much sleep the whole time. Another news story said she was wearing the same clothes, but had lost a lot of weight.

Here's some information from a study about victims of kidnapping and being held hostage:

Psychological effects

In general terms, the psychological impact of being taken hostage is similar to that of being exposed to other trauma, including terrorist incidents and disasters for adults12 and children.13

Typical adult reactions include:

Cognitive: impaired memory and concentration; confusion and disorientation; intrusive thoughts (‘flashbacks&#8217 and memories; denial (i.e. that the event has happened); hypervigilance and hyperarousal (a state of feeling too aroused, with a profound fear of another incident);
Emotional: shock and numbness; fear and anxiety (but panic is not common);14 helplessness and hopelessness; dissociation (feeling numb and ‘switched off’ emotionally); anger (at anybody – perpetrators, themselves and the authorities); anhedonia (loss of pleasure in doing that which was previously pleasurable); depression (a reaction to loss); guilt (e.g. at having survived if others died, and for being taken hostage);
Social: withdrawal; irritability; avoidance (of reminders of the event).

Denial (i.e. a complete or partial failure to acknowledge what has really happened) has often been maligned as a response to extreme stress, but it has survival value (at least in the short term) by allowing the individual a delayed period during which he/she has time to adjust to a painful reality. For example, some hostages in the Moscow theatre siege initially believed that the appearance of the heavily armed Chechnyan rebels was part of the military musical performance.15

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2627800/


He could have kept her locked in a dark room, etc. Didn't feed her, assaulted her, then finally let her go. She may not have been able to get a good look at his face except in brief glimpses. It sounds to me like a kidnapper who planned it all pretty well. He'd likely been watching her, knew she was alone.

We've seen this type before with Ariel Castro, the man and wife who kidnapped Jaycee Dugard and AH, who was kidnapped by Nathaniel Kibby. The difference in this case is that he only kept her for 2 weeks, so was less likely to have revealed his face or let her get up and move around so she could see where she was being held.

 

[simba16]

I'm also thinking of the physical, psychological effects on future victims.