OH - Coast Guard search for 6 people in plane missing over Lake Erie, Cleveland, 27 Dec 2018

[dotr]

http://www.cleveland19.com/story/34165243/search-continues-monday-for-missing-plane

Brian Casey and daughter Megan (Souce: Facebook)

Fleming's wife, Sue, and his two sons, Jack and Andrew.

 

[DeDee]

Cannot imagine the flight losing contact only one minute after takeoff, my heart goes out to all the loved ones, friends and colleagues, waiting for news..

This is a tragedy. If the pilot knows there is ice on his plane, he will call for the de-icer machine. The de-icing fluid stays on the plane as long as frozen precipitation is not falling at the time it is applied.

If you consider that the slats and the flaps, on the back of the wings, that give the plane lift and the wings help fly steady. If any one slat or flap, or all of them, are faulty, the plane cannot climb. Climbing is when a plane can go its fastest. Managing a straight flying airplane requires more thrust where the airflow is controlled by the wing position.

10:57:30 P.M. ::: 3100 Ft. of Altitude (Maximum altitude reached)
10:57:51 P.M. ::: 1075 Ft. of Altitude (Plane has dropped 2925 Ft in 21 seconds.)

Sadly enough, it is likely that the plane hit the water within 7 - 8 seconds later.

During a mechanical failure of this type, the pilot is not in error.

 

[Richrd]

Travel Bag with Photo Identification Confirmed to be from Plane

Six people on Plane Missing over Southern Part of Lake Erie - 29 Dec 2016

20)) http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/cleveland/search-for-missing-plane-suspended-until-tuesday/381208795

A Richrd Distance/Direction Estimate:
Bag Recovered On Shore about 6 Miles (10kM),
East-North-East (076°) of Plane's Last Radar Position.

21)) http://wkbn.com/2017/01/03/searchers-find-debris-consistent-with-missing-cleveland-plane/

22)) http://fox8.com/2017/01/03/crews-hope-to-resume-search-today-for-plane-missing-in-lake-erie/

23)) http://nbc4i.com/2017/01/03/search-resumes-for-plane-carrying-6-that-vanished-in-ohio/

[video=twitter;814823855659319296]https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/814823855659319296[/video]
^^^ Zoom-In for Moment-to-Moment Flight Data ^^^

>>> Some Highlights of the Very-Brief Flight:

10:57:01 P.M. ::: 950 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking South-West (237°)

10:57:15 P.M. ::: 1750 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking West-South-West (252°)

10:57:30 P.M. ::: 3100 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-West (309°)

10:57:35 P.M. ::: 2925 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-West (320°)

10:57:40 P.M. ::: 2475 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-North-West (344°)

10:57:45 P.M. ::: 1750 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North (010°)

10:57:51 P.M. ::: 1075 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-North-East (025°)


Last Known Location:

N 41.53574° ::: W -081.71591°
N 41° 32.144' ::: W -081° 42.955'
N 41° 32' 08.664'' ::: W -081° 42' 57.276''
UTM: 17T 440281E ::: 4598479N

*Just 2 Miles (3 Km), North-West (310°) from Airport,
over a Lake Water Depth of only 50Ft. (15m)

{{ Elevation of Burke Lakefront Airport = 580 Ft. (176m)
Elevation of Lake Erie = 570 Ft. (173m).
Elevation of Ohio State University Airport = 905 Ft (275m) }}


On-Board:

John T. Fleming, 46 - Pilot - Husband - Father
Suzanne Fleming, 46 - Wife - Mother
John R. "Jack" Fleming, 15 - Son - Brother
Andrew T. Fleming, 14 - Son - Brother

Brian E. Casey, 42 - Neighbor - Father
Megan Casey,19 - Neighbor - Daughter


Altimeter = Displays Calculated Distance above Ground
Altitude = Height above Ground
CEO = Chief Executive Officer
Elevation = Height above Mean/Average Sea Level
ELT = Emergency Locating Transmitter - "Pinger"
EMS = Emergency Medical Services
EST = Eastern Standard Time (5 Hours Before GMT / UTC / Z)
FAA = Federal Aviation Administration
GMT = Greenwich Mean Time
IMC = Instrument Meteorological Conditions
LKL = Last Known Location
Magnetometer = Can Locate Metal Underwater
Mean = Arithmetic Average
NTSB = National Transportation Safety Board
Sonar = Sound Navigation and Ranging
Sortie = A Group sent on a Specific Mission
UTC = Universal Time Coordinated
UTM = Universal Transverse Mercator
Z = Zulu Time = GMT = UTC


*Should the Search Area be further North-West than its Current Limit?​

 

[osu]

Does anyone know if the photo ID found with the bag was significant to this case?

"A bag washed up on shore and was found Sunday at The Shoreby Club Newport Harbor in Bratenahl near Cleveland. More than 120 pieces of debris have been recovered from the lake so far, and are connected with the 525 Cessna model.

Officials have confirmed that the bag was linked to the crash and contained identification cards and other items that belonged to the missing pilot, John T. Fleming."


More at link:
https://wmfd.com/news/single.asp?Story=70932

 

[KaaBoom]

Travel Bag with Photo Identification Confirmed to be from Plane

Six people on Plane Missing over Southern Part of Lake Erie - 29 Dec 2016

20)) http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/cleveland/search-for-missing-plane-suspended-until-tuesday/381208795

A Richrd Distance/Direction Estimate:


Bag Recovered On Shore about 6 Miles (10kM),
East-North-East (076°) of Plane's Last Radar Position.

21)) http://wkbn.com/2017/01/03/searchers-find-debris-consistent-with-missing-cleveland-plane/

22)) http://fox8.com/2017/01/03/crews-hope-to-resume-search-today-for-plane-missing-in-lake-erie/

23)) http://nbc4i.com/2017/01/03/search-resumes-for-plane-carrying-6-that-vanished-in-ohio/

[video=twitter;814823855659319296]https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/814823855659319296[/video]
^^^ Zoom-In for Moment-to-Moment Flight Data ^^^

>>> Some Highlights of the Very-Brief Flight:

10:57:01 P.M. ::: 950 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking South-West (237°)

10:57:15 P.M. ::: 1750 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking West-South-West (252°)

10:57:30 P.M. ::: 3100 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-West (309°)

10:57:35 P.M. ::: 2925 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-West (320°)

10:57:40 P.M. ::: 2475 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-North-West (344°)

10:57:45 P.M. ::: 1750 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North (010°)

10:57:51 P.M. ::: 1075 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-North-East (025°)


Last Known Location:

N 41.53574° ::: W -081.71591°
N 41° 32.144' ::: W -081° 42.955'
N 41° 32' 08.664'' ::: W -081° 42' 57.276''
UTM: 17T 440281E ::: 4598479N

*Just 2 Miles (3 Km), North-West (310°) from Airport,
over a Lake Water Depth of only 50Ft. (15m)

{{ Elevation of Burke Lakefront Airport = 580 Ft. (176m)
Elevation of Lake Erie = 570 Ft. (173m).
Elevation of Ohio State University Airport = 905 Ft (275m) }}


On-Board:

John T. Fleming, 46 - Pilot - Husband - Father
Suzanne Fleming, 46 - Wife - Mother
John R. "Jack" Fleming, 15 - Son - Brother
Andrew T. Fleming, 14 - Son - Brother

Brian E. Casey, 42 - Neighbor - Father
Megan Casey,19 - Neighbor - Daughter


Altimeter = Displays Calculated Distance above Ground
Altitude = Height above Ground
CEO = Chief Executive Officer
Elevation = Height above Mean/Average Sea Level
ELT = Emergency Locating Transmitter - "Pinger"
EMS = Emergency Medical Services
EST = Eastern Standard Time (5 Hours Before GMT / UTC / Z)
FAA = Federal Aviation Administration
GMT = Greenwich Mean Time
IMC = Instrument Meteorological Conditions
LKL = Last Known Location
Magnetometer = Can Locate Metal Underwater
Mean = Arithmetic Average
NTSB = National Transportation Safety Board
Sonar = Sound Navigation and Ranging
Sortie = A Group sent on a Specific Mission
UTC = Universal Time Coordinated
UTM = Universal Transverse Mercator
Z = Zulu Time = GMT = UTC


*Should the Search Area be further North-West than its Current Limit?​

That seems like a hell of a climb, 3,100 feet in less than a minute. According to Wikipedia the maximum climb rate for that type of aircraft is 3,698 fpm to 4,478 fpm. I would say he was probably pushing the maximum safe climb rate. I wonder if maybe he stalled the plane. :thinking:

Cessna Citation / M2 - Specifications

 

[Akweks]

That seems like a hell of a climb, 3,100 feet in less than a minute. According to Wikipedia the maximum climb rate for that type of aircraft is 3,698 fpm to 4,478 fpm. I would say he was probably pushing the maximum safe climb rate. I wonder if maybe he stalled the plane. :thinking:

That makes sense. I was thinking wind shear because of past experience.

 

[Richrd]

A Tuesday Press Conference*

Travel Bag with Photo Identification Confirmed to be from Plane

Six people on Plane Missing over Southern Part of Lake Erie - 29 Dec 2016

*24)) http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/cleveland/search-for-missing-plane-suspended-until-tuesday/381208795

25)) http://fox8.com/2017/01/03/crews-hope-to-resume-search-today-for-plane-missing-in-lake-erie/

26)) Cessna 525C Citationjet CJ4 Specifications:

http://cessna.txtav.com/en/citation/cj4#_model-specs

https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/814823855659319296
^^^ Zoom-In for Moment-to-Moment Flight Data ^^^

>>> Some Highlights of the Very-Brief Flight:

10:57:01 P.M. ::: 950 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking South-West (237°)

10:57:15 P.M. ::: 1750 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking West-South-West (252°)

10:57:30 P.M. ::: 3100 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-West (309°)

10:57:35 P.M. ::: 2925 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-West (320°)

10:57:40 P.M. ::: 2475 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-North-West (344°)

10:57:45 P.M. ::: 1750 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North (010°)

10:57:51 P.M. ::: 1075 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-North-East (025°)


Last Known Location:

N 41.53574° ::: W -081.71591°
N 41° 32.144' ::: W -081° 42.955'
N 41° 32' 08.664'' ::: W -081° 42' 57.276''
UTM: 17T 440281E ::: 4598479N

**Just 2 Miles (3 Km), North-West (310°) from Airport,
over a Lake Water Depth of only 50Ft. (15m)

[[ Approximate Specifications: 50 Ft. Long :: 50 Ft. Wide :: 15 Feet High ]]

{{ Elevation of Burke Lakefront Airport = 580 Ft. (176m)
Elevation of Lake Erie = 570 Ft. (173m).
Elevation of Ohio State University Airport = 905 Ft (275m) }}


On-Board the Cessna Citationjet:

John T. Fleming, 46 - Pilot - Father
Suzanne Fleming, 46 - Mother
John R. "Jack" Fleming, 15 - Son
Andrew T. Fleming, 14 - Son

Brian E. Casey, 42 - Neighbor - Father
Megan Casey,19 - Neighbor - Daughter


ACARS = Aircraft Communications Addressing & Reporting System
AD = Airworthiness Directive
Altimeter = Displays Calculated Distance above Ground
Altitude = Height above Ground
CEO = Chief Executive Officer
CVR = Cockpit Voice Recorder
Elevation = Height above Mean/Average Sea Level
ELT = Emergency Locating Transmitter - "Pinger"
EMS = Emergency Medical Services
EST = Eastern Standard Time (5 Hours Before GMT / UTC / Z)
FAA = Federal Aviation Administration
FDR = Flight Data Recorder (Optional on this Model)
FSDO = Flight Standards District Office of FAA
GMT = Greenwich Mean Time
GPWS = Ground Proximity Warning System
IIRC = If I Recall Correctly
IMC = Instrument Meteorological Conditions
LKL = Last Known Location
Magnetometer = Can Locate Metal Underwater
Mean = Arithmetic Average
NTSB = National Transportation Safety Board
Sonar = Sound Navigation and Ranging
Sortie = A Group sent on a Specific Mission
TCAS = Traffic Collision Avoidance System
UTC = Universal Time Coordinated
UTM = Universal Transverse Mercator
Z = Zulu Time = GMT = UTC


**Should the Search Area be further NW /
North-West than its Current 2 Mile (3kM) Limit?​

 

[DeDee]

This tragedy has become a Recovery Rescue, sadly enough. May there have been Peace and not panic in going with other loved ones for they only had a brief, short notice before impact.

They are using divers and sonar to search by segments of the lake. IIRC, the lake is 50' deep in the search area. The current temp of Lake Erie is 45 degrees. Certified divers will be limited on the length of time they can safely remain submerged.

http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/cleveland/search-for-missing-plane-suspended-until-tuesday/381208795

https://www.watertemperature.net/united-states/lake-erie-water-temperature.html

It is the shallowest of the Great Lakes with an average depth of 10 fathoms 3 feet (62 ft; 19 m)[2] and a maximum depth of 35 fathoms (210 ft; 64 m) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Erie

 

[KaaBoom]

That makes sense. I was thinking wind shear because of past experience.

Apparently this was the CJ1 model. So the maximum climb rate would be 3,698 fpm. He went from 950 feet to 3,100 feet in less then 30 seconds. So that was 2,150 feet in 30 seconds or 4,300 fpm. If the data is correct, the pilot's behavior would seem somewhat bizarre. Based on that data I would have to guess the cause was pilot error.

 

[Betty P]

http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/clev...lane-continues-into-tuesday-evening/381208795

120 pieces of debris have been found, consistent with the type of airplane that crashed.

 

[Hatfield]

Apparently this was the CJ1 model. So the maximum climb rate would be 3,698 fpm. He went from 950 feet to 3,100 feet in less then 30 seconds. So that was 2,150 feet in 30 seconds or 4,300 fpm. If the data is correct, the pilot's behavior would seem somewhat bizarre. Based on that data I would have to guess the cause was pilot error.

I have to agree. I have to guess that he stalled the plane by trying to climb too rapidly. That is a lot of altitude very quickly. Then he tops off at 3100 feet and then descends rapidly which indicates a stall. If the data is correct then it indicates he was above its maximum climb rate. And with a full load of passengers the plane would have to strain to accomplish that ascend rate.

Also I think what contributed to him trying to climb too rapidly was the wind. I had watched a TV report of this accident and they said that even though the winter storm was mostly clear of the area there was a huge wind pattern that extended well beyond the storm. So if he was trying to get them out of severe turbulance then he may have tried to purposely climb rapidly to get above the wind turbulance. Combined with the full load of passengers and it would be rough for the plane to handle that.

All speculation until the investigation ends up determining what happened.

What is really sad is if it was a stall then there was a small chance of him restarting the plane and regaining control but it would take a cool head under extraordinary circumstances and Im just not sure there is a lot of "Sully's" out there that can handle something like that even if trained for it.

Panic and people screaming on board could easily distract even a trained person to not be able to accomplish a restart and pull out.

 

[Richrd]

A Tuesday Press Conference*

Travel Bag with Photo Identification Confirmed to be from Plane

Six people on Plane Missing over Southern Part of Lake Erie - 29 Dec 2016

*26))http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/cleveland/search-for-missing-plane-suspended-until-tuesday/381208795

27)) http://fox8.com/2017/01/04/crews-find-more-debris-in-search-for-missing-plane/

28)) Cessna 525C Citationjet CJ4 Specifications:

http://cessna.txtav.com/en/citation/cj4#_model-specs

https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/814823855659319296
^^^ Zoom-In for Moment-to-Moment Flight Data ^^^

>>> Some Highlights of the Very-Brief Flight:

10:57:01 P.M. ::: 950 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking South-West (237°)

10:57:15 P.M. ::: 1750 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking West-South-West (252°)

10:57:30 P.M. ::: 3100 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-West (309°)

10:57:35 P.M. ::: 2925 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-West (320°)

10:57:40 P.M. ::: 2475 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-North-West (344°)

10:57:45 P.M. ::: 1750 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North (010°)

10:57:51 P.M. ::: 1075 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-North-East (025°)


Last Known Location:

N 41.53574° ::: W -081.71591°
N 41° 32.144' ::: W -081° 42.955'
N 41° 32' 08.664'' ::: W -081° 42' 57.276''
UTM: 17T 440281E ::: 4598479N

**Just 2 Miles (3 Km), North-West (310°) from Airport,
over a Lake Water Depth of only 50Ft. (15m)

[[ Approximate Specifications: 50 Ft. Long :: 50 Ft. Wide :: 15 Feet High ]]

{{ Elevation of Burke Lakefront Airport = 580 Ft. (176m)
Elevation of Lake Erie = 570 Ft. (173m).
Elevation of Ohio State University Airport = 905 Ft (275m) }}


On-Board the Cessna Citationjet CJ4:

John T. Fleming, 46 - Pilot - Father
Suzanne Fleming, 46 - Mother
John R. "Jack" Fleming, 15 - Son
Andrew T. Fleming, 14 - Son

Brian E. Casey, 42 - Neighbor - Father
Megan Casey,19 - Neighbor - Daughter


ACARS = Aircraft Communications Addressing & Reporting System
AD = Airworthiness Directive
Altimeter = Displays Calculated Distance above Ground
Altitude = Height above Ground
ATC = Air Traffic Control
CEO = Chief Executive Officer
CVR = Cockpit Voice Recorder
Elevation = Height above Mean/Average Sea Level
ELT = Emergency Locating Transmitter - "Pinger"
EMS = Emergency Medical Services
EST = Eastern Standard Time (5 Hours Before GMT / UTC / Z)
ETA = Estimated Time of Arrival
FAA = Federal Aviation Administration
FDR = Flight Data Recorder (Optional on these CJ4 Models)
FSDO = Flight Standards District Office of FAA
GMT = Greenwich Mean Time
GPWS = Ground Proximity Warning System
IIRC = If I Recall Correctly
IMC = Instrument Meteorological Conditions
inHg = Barometric Pressure :: Inches of Mercury
LKL = Last Known Location
Magnetometer = Can Locate Metal Underwater
Mean = Arithmetic Average
NTSB = National Transportation Safety Board
Sonar = Sound Navigation and Ranging
Sortie = A Group sent on a Specific Mission
TCAS = Traffic Collision Avoidance System
UTC = Universal Time Coordinated
UTM = Universal Transverse Mercator
Z = Zulu Time = GMT = UTC


**Should the Search Area be further NW /
North-West than its Current 2 Mile (3kM) Limit?​

 

[dotr]

http://www.10tv.com/article/weather-limits-search-plane-vanished-6-aboard

The city said Wednesday morning that foot patrols and mounted units resumed searching the shoreline east of Burke Lakefront Airport, but conditions weren't allowing search boats and dive teams back on the water.

Equipment from the National Transportation Safety Board is expected to arrive Wednesday afternoon to help searchers locate the plane

 

[dotr]

http://fox8.com/2017/01/04/search-f...-3d-models-built-to-help-in-recovery-efforts/

[h=1]Search for missing plane: Simulations, 3D models built to help in recovery efforts[/h]

A team of surveyors, along with highly-skilled engineers are taking part in helping to locate the aircraft. The team has been building simulations and 3D models to help hone in on the most probable areas for recovery.

As information comes in from the FAA, NTSB, FBI and others, the team updates models to adjust and refine where assets will be placed on the shore and in the water.

 

[Grammy717]

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-...n-on-potential-cause-of-lake-erie-plane-crash

I've been fairly convinced it was weather, but possibly not. This is just too sad for words.

 

[1&2&3]

Oh no! After reading the following article, there is a question if John Fleming was certified to fly the plane that crashed.

"News 5 has requested records from the FAA that would show when Fleming received his certification to fly a Cessna 525. Currently, on his license, posted to the FAA pilot database, Fleming was only certified to fly a Cessna 510, a much smaller plane than the 525."

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-...n-on-potential-cause-of-lake-erie-plane-crash

I've been fairly convinced it was weather, but possibly not. This is just too sad for words.

 

[dotr]

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/01/rough-waters_vessel_headed_to.html

updated January 05, 2017 at 11:47 AM


CLEVELAND, Ohio -- A research vessel capable of handling rough waters is on its way to Cleveland to aid in the search for a missing plane carrying six passengers that vanished over Lake Erie one week ago.
The 75-foot United States Geological Survey vessel will also move slowly enough to more effectively use special locator equipment provided by the National Transportation Safety Board, the city announced Thursday.

Foots patrols will continue scouring the shoreline as well. Cleveland police and fire, Cleveland Metroparks Rangers, Red Cross volunteers, and mounted units are aiding in those efforts.

The city said winds are registering at 15-25 knots, and waves are reaching 4-6 feet.

Debris continues to wash ashore, and anyone who spots it should call police at 216-621-1234 or the airport at 216-781-6411.

 

[Richrd]

Search Area Illustration ::: Findings Summary

Six people on Plane Missing over Southern Part of Lake Erie - 29 Dec 2016

29)) http://fox8.com/2017/01/05/crews-plan-to-use-locator-beacon-in-search-for-missing-plane/:

30)) http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/cleveland/search-for-missing-plane-suspended-until-tuesday/381208795

31)) http://fox8.com/2017/01/04/i-team-inside-the-investigation-into-search-for-missing-plane/:

"...debris from the plane collected in recent days has included parts of seats, pieces of metal, & pieces of fiberglass."

32)) http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-...n-on-potential-cause-of-lake-erie-plane-crash

33)) http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/01/rough-waters_vessel_headed_to.html

34)) http://www.cleveland.com/metro/inde...derwater_locator.html#incart_river_h ome_pop


Cessna 525C Citationjet CJ4 Specifications:

http://cessna.txtav.com/en/citation/cj4#_model-specs

https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/814823855659319296
^^^ Zoom-In for Moment-to-Moment Flight Data ^^^

>>> Some Highlights of the Very-Brief Flight:

10:57:01 P.M. ::: 950 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking South-West (237°)

10:57:15 P.M. ::: 1750 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking West-South-West (252°)

10:57:30 P.M. ::: 3100 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-West (309°)

10:57:35 P.M. ::: 2925 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-West (320°)

10:57:40 P.M. ::: 2475 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-North-West (344°)

10:57:45 P.M. ::: 1750 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North (010°)

10:57:51 P.M. ::: 1075 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-North-East (025°) :: N 41.53574° ::: W -081.71591°


Last Known Location:

N 41.53574° ::: W -081.71591°
N 41° 32.144' ::: W -081° 42.955'
N 41° 32' 08.664'' ::: W -081° 42' 57.276''
UTM: 17T 440281E ::: 4598479N

Just 2 Miles (3 Km), North-West (310°) from Airport,
over a Lake Water Depth of only 50Ft. (15m)

[[ Approximate Specifications: 50 Ft. Long :: 50 Ft. Wide :: 15 Feet High ]]

{{ Elevation of Burke Lakefront Airport = 580 Ft. (176m)
Elevation of Lake Erie = 570 Ft. (173m).
Elevation of Ohio State University Airport = 905 Ft (275m) }}


On-Board the Cessna Citationjet CJ4:

John T. Fleming, 46 - Pilot - Father
Suzanne Fleming, 46 - Mother
John R. "Jack" Fleming, 15 - Son
Andrew T. Fleming, 14 - Son

Brian E. Casey, 42 - Neighbor - Father
Megan Casey,19 - Neighbor - Daughter


ACARS = Aircraft Communications Addressing & Reporting System
AD = Airworthiness Directive
Altimeter = Displays Calculated Distance above Ground
Altitude = Height above Ground
ATC = Air Traffic Control
CEO = Chief Executive Officer
CVR = Cockpit Voice Recorder
Elevation = Height above Mean/Average Sea Level
ELT = Emergency Locating Transmitter - "Pinger"
EMS = Emergency Medical Services
EST = Eastern Standard Time (5 Hours Before GMT / UTC / Z)
ETA = Estimated Time of Arrival
FAA = Federal Aviation Administration
FDR = Flight Data Recorder (Optional on these CJ4 Models)
FBI = Federal Bureau of Investigation
FSDO = Flight Standards District Office of FAA
GMT = Greenwich Mean Time
GPWS = Ground Proximity Warning System
IIRC = If I Recall Correctly
IMC = Instrument Meteorological Conditions
inHg = Barometric Pressure :: Inches of Mercury
LKL = Last Known Location
Magnetometer = Can Locate Metal Underwater
Mean = Arithmetic Average
NTSB = National Transportation Safety Board
Sonar = Sound Navigation and Ranging
Sortie = A Group sent on a Specific Mission
TCAS = Traffic Collision Avoidance System
USGS = United States Geological Survey
UTC = Universal Time Coordinated
UTM = Universal Transverse Mercator
Z = Zulu Time = GMT = UTC


May Today be the Day for Major Findings.​

 

[Richrd]

Narrowed Search Area Announced ::: Search Area Illustration

Six People on Plane Missing over Southern Part of Lake Erie - 29 Dec 2016

35)) http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/clev...ocator-looking-for-cockpit-recorder/381208795

36)) http://fox8.com/2017/01/05/i-team-asks-where-is-clevelands-plan-for-handling-plane-crashes/

37)) http://fox8.com/2017/01/04/i-team-inside-the-investigation-into-search-for-missing-plane/:

"...debris from the plane collected in recent days has included parts of seats, pieces of metal, & pieces of fiberglass."

38)) http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-...n-on-potential-cause-of-lake-erie-plane-crash

39)) R/V Research Vessel Muskie:

http://www.canamglass.org/online/shipdetails.php?intShipId=50


Cessna 525C Citationjet CJ4 Specifications:

http://cessna.txtav.com/en/citation/cj4#_model-specs

https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/814823855659319296
^^^ Zoom-In for Moment-to-Moment Flight Data ^^^

Highlights of the Very-Brief Flight:

10:57:01 P.M. ::: 950 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking South-West (237°)

10:57:15 P.M. ::: 1750 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking West-South-West (252°)

10:57:30 P.M. ::: 3100 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-West (309°)

10:57:35 P.M. ::: 2925 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-West (320°)

10:57:40 P.M. ::: 2475 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-North-West (344°)

10:57:45 P.M. ::: 1750 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North (010°)

10:57:51 P.M. ::: 1075 Ft. of Altitude ::: Tracking North-North-East (025°) :: N 41.53574° ::: W -081.71591°


Last Known Location:

N 41.53574° ::: W -081.71591°
N 41° 32.144' ::: W -081° 42.955'
N 41° 32' 08.664'' ::: W -081° 42' 57.276''
UTM: 17T 440281E ::: 4598479N

Just 2 Miles (3 Km), North-West (310°) from Airport,
over a Lake Water Depth of only 50Ft. (15m)

[[ Approximate Specifications: 50 Ft. Long :: 50 Ft. Wide :: 15 Feet High ]]

{{ Elevation of Burke Lakefront Airport = 580 Ft. (176m)
Elevation of Lake Erie = 570 Ft. (173m).
Elevation of Ohio State University Airport = 905 Ft (275m) }}


On-Board the Cessna Citationjet CJ4:

John T. Fleming, 46 - Pilot - Father
Suzanne Fleming, 46 - Mother
John R. "Jack" Fleming, 15 - Son
Andrew T. Fleming, 14 - Son

Brian E. Casey, 42 - Neighbor - Father
Megan Casey,19 - Neighbor - Daughter


ACARS = Aircraft Communications Addressing & Reporting System
AD = Airworthiness Directive
Altimeter = Displays Calculated Distance above Ground
Altitude = Height above Ground
ATC = Air Traffic Control
CEO = Chief Executive Officer
CVR = Cockpit Voice Recorder
Elevation = Height above Mean/Average Sea Level
ELT = Emergency Locating Transmitter - 30 Day "Pinger"
EMS = Emergency Medical Services
EST = Eastern Standard Time (5 Hours Before GMT / UTC / Z)
ETA = Estimated Time of Arrival
FAA = Federal Aviation Administration
FDR = Flight Data Recorder (Optional on these CJ4 Models)
FBI = Federal Bureau of Investigation
FSDO = Flight Standards District Office of FAA
GMT = Greenwich Mean Time
GPWS = Ground Proximity Warning System
IIRC = If I Recall Correctly
IMC = Instrument Meteorological Conditions
inHg = Barometric Pressure :: Inches of Mercury
LKL = Last Known Location
Magnetometer = Can Locate Metal Underwater
Mean = Arithmetic Average
NTSB = National Transportation Safety Board
R/V = Research Vessel
Sonar = Sound Navigation and Ranging
Sortie = A Group sent on a Specific Mission
TCAS = Traffic Collision Avoidance System
USGS = United States Geological Survey
UTC = Universal Time Coordinated
UTM = Universal Transverse Mercator
Z = Zulu Time = GMT = UTC


One Week Ago, as of Thursday Night.​

 

[Betty P]

Thanks for your links, Richrd. The WKYC link says the rescue teams have narrowed the search to an even smaller area, thanks to pings they've detected. Assume that equipment sent in by FAA has helped a great deal.

http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/clev...missing-plane-search-range-narrowed/381208795

According to the update from the city, during search and recovery efforts in the blue water grid search area Thursday, the NTSB underwater locator beacon detector received multiple transmissions while deployed from the U.S. Geological Survey’s (USGS) “Muskie.”

These transmissions have been plotted on the models to narrow down the search site for the Cockpit Voice Recorder to a 125- by 325-foot search area, according to city officials

Hopefully, there will be some closure for these families, giving them a chance to grieve.