Found Deceased OH - Joey LaBute, 26, Columbus, 4 March 2016 #1

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Tiggerford said:
I wasn't just speaking of the campus/short north area but rather Columbus as a whole. There are a few others (some female) missing from the area which I think LE have completely dropped the ball on.

I noticed the statistics that cpd posted saying 90% of cases were solved yada yada but I'd really like to see what cases they were referring to specifically- I'm just assuming but I have a hunch a good number of those are just teenage run-aways who eventually give up.

And in response to other commenters: I'm very sorry I feel the way I do too. I meant no harm by any of my comments, and I certainly was not trying place blame on anyone here.... But I just can't understand some things going on. In my opinion LE has had more than ample amount of time to sort this whole thing out, obviously something isn't working- so maybe a light bulb should switch on and tell ya to try another route....whatever that might be.

Also, with all these missing persons cases (Zach, Brian, and all the others)- it's so strange how they all connect...I like to consider myself still somewhat young- but even when I was a teen, I would have never thought to leave an establishment without knowing where all the people I came with were. How does this come about as normal? I was always under the impression of if you came with someone you left with them, or at least had them accounted for.
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Haven't really followed this case closely, although have had some awareness through friends posting on FB and the like.

Just have to object, however, to your terminology re: teenage runaways. I think that one thing that families of missing teens frequently come up against is this assumption that they are all "just runaways" who will ultimately resurface. Now, whether or not a kid (frequently female) may leave home under their own volition, the dangers that they face on the street are pretty huge and ugly. Far too often teens are preyed upon by folks all-too-willing to take advantage of the vulnerability of a kid feeling misunderstood at home, or even simply so naive as to be easily lured into a relationship with someone who is out looking for sex-trade-workers. Far too often the first question from LE to a parent reporting a missing child is "have they run away before?" This presumes, first, that THIS child has left home/parents voluntarily, and second places them into a less-critical category where they can easily be forgotten (by LE) while simply waiting for them to come back home. Any kid is in peril--even those who never had any intention of leaving home.

Here's a name for the list of missing from Columbus (again--gleaned from posts by FB friends), Jamie Bowen. Young white female. Missing from Columbus South Side (not likely the same MO as the Short North/University area missing young men). Her family and friends continue to seek her.
 
inmyhumbleopinion said:
"... officers are on scene at the Scioto River near the Columbus Police impound lot ...." (BBM)

I have to leave but am wondering where this location is in relation to the Union Cafe.
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I mean.... it IS a walk from the Union- pretty long walk....
Hopefully, it is NOT him.... but if it is... I find it pretty strange to up and leave your family at the bar and walk a half hour to the river....at 12:30 AM
 
Margo/Mom said:
Haven't really followed this case closely, although have had some awareness through friends posting on FB and the like.

Just have to object, however, to your terminology re: teenage runaways. I think that one thing that families of missing teens frequently come up against is this assumption that they are all "just runaways" who will ultimately resurface. Now, whether or not a kid (frequently female) may leave home under their own volition, the dangers that they face on the street are pretty huge and ugly. Far too often teens are preyed upon by folks all-too-willing to take advantage of the vulnerability of a kid feeling misunderstood at home, or even simply so naive as to be easily lured into a relationship with someone who is out looking for sex-trade-workers. Far too often the first question from LE to a parent reporting a missing child is "have they run away before?" This presumes, first, that THIS child has left home/parents voluntarily, and second places them into a less-critical category where they can easily be forgotten (by LE) while simply waiting for them to come back home. Any kid is in peril--even those who never had any intention of leaving home.

Here's a name for the list of missing from Columbus (again--gleaned from posts by FB friends), Jamie Bowen. Young white female. Missing from Columbus South Side (not likely the same MO as the Short North/University area missing young men). Her family and friends continue to seek her.
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Teenage runaways? Are you on the wrong thread maybe?
 
Margo/Mom said:
Haven't really followed this case closely, although have had some awareness through friends posting on FB and the like.

Just have to object, however, to your terminology re: teenage runaways. I think that one thing that families of missing teens frequently come up against is this assumption that they are all "just runaways" who will ultimately resurface. Now, whether or not a kid (frequently female) may leave home under their own volition, the dangers that they face on the street are pretty huge and ugly. Far too often teens are preyed upon by folks all-too-willing to take advantage of the vulnerability of a kid feeling misunderstood at home, or even simply so naive as to be easily lured into a relationship with someone who is out looking for sex-trade-workers. Far too often the first question from LE to a parent reporting a missing child is "have they run away before?" This presumes, first, that THIS child has left home/parents voluntarily, and second places them into a less-critical category where they can easily be forgotten (by LE) while simply waiting for them to come back home. Any kid is in peril--even those who never had any intention of leaving home.

Here's a name for the list of missing from Columbus (again--gleaned from posts by FB friends), Jamie Bowen. Young white female. Missing from Columbus South Side (not likely the same MO as the Short North/University area missing young men). Her family and friends continue to seek her.
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Not a teenage runaway.
The Jamie Bowen case is different as well. From what I remember, she had drug issues. She lived in the south end of Columbus, which is known for being rough (crime, drugs, gangs, prostitution, etc). Alot of women went missing in Chillicothe (just south of Columbus)- it is thought that all these women that are missing are a related case. I know there was speculation about Jamie being a part of that.

Joey's case is way different- he disappeared from a very crowded bar in a VERY popular part of Columbus.
 
anonypotomous said:
Moom? What the heck is moom?
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But if you stop the inverview when they go tight on his cell there is one text on the 6th.

RE: http://nbc4i.com/2016/03/29/police-i...-scioto-river/ Hopefully this isn't him.

oh no,---I am not from the area but you all have been mentioning that river.........

Strange, I felt relief when this type of story first came-Zach, now I feel sad.....

About 20 min or so ago I was gonna eat. Well, I no longer feel hunger. And so now what? Are we gonna have another young fit person that just falls into rivers?

Now with this breaking news, I go with a crime, OR if we think about this the last thing was "go to the bar for a drink". I go laced drink.

HUmm was whoever was called a liar there at the bar?

Ugh, I just learned a short time ago about how unsafe this zip code is and now this.......

There has been no mention at all about him being buzzed, so IMO it had to be a crime, or his last drink laced, he left and whatever was put in there started to slowly hit as he was walking wherever,
 
anonypotomous said:
Teenage runaways? Are you on the wrong thread maybe?
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MTE. Joey is closer to 30 than his teens and the circumstances surrounding his disappearance have nothing to do with running away. I mean he COULD have run away, but nothing seems to point to it. If the body in the river is him, his family has closure. If it's not, then the nightmare continues.
 
CARIIS said:
You have not heard of Moom! It means "typo"!

But if you stop the inverview when they go tight on his cell there is moom on the 6th.

translates to!

But if you stop the inverview when they go tight on his cell there is one text on the 6th.

!!!
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Ha. I read it like a drawn out whiny mom. "Moooooom....I NEED it!"
 
Margo/Mom said:
Haven't really followed this case closely, although have had some awareness through friends posting on FB and the like.

Just have to object, however, to your terminology re: teenage runaways. I think that one thing that families of missing teens frequently come up against is this assumption that they are all "just runaways" who will ultimately resurface. Now, whether or not a kid (frequently female) may leave home under their own volition, the dangers that they face on the street are pretty huge and ugly. Far too often teens are preyed upon by folks all-too-willing to take advantage of the vulnerability of a kid feeling misunderstood at home, or even simply so naive as to be easily lured into a relationship with someone who is out looking for sex-trade-workers. Far too often the first question from LE to a parent reporting a missing child is "have they run away before?" This presumes, first, that THIS child has left home/parents voluntarily, and second places them into a less-critical category where they can easily be forgotten (by LE) while simply waiting for them to come back home. Any kid is in peril--even those who never had any intention of leaving home.

Here's a name for the list of missing from Columbus (again--gleaned from posts by FB friends), Jamie Bowen. Young white female. Missing from Columbus South Side (not likely the same MO as the Short North/University area missing young men). Her family and friends continue to seek her.
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I certainly wasn't saying anything negative about teenagers who do in fact run away or saying that a teenager could not have been lured away...I was more stating that of the cases they solved last year I think the cases of teenagers missing for a day and than turning up a few hours later or a day later were counted in as "solved". Which seems more like they just needed to get away from their parents for awhile, and there wasn't anything malicious taking place.

Also the Jayme Bowen case is a bit different. But I don't think the police ever took her case seriously from the start, given her past in prostitution and drugs they probably assumed she just went back to her old ways. I think had LE done a little more within the first couple days of her disappearance than there might have been more clues found. It's such a sad case, I feel so sorry for her children.
 
CARIIS said:
OK time for levity break.

I hope they were not singing :


Pick Up The Phone by Falling In Reverse!!!!

Never heard it, but I thought, oh my god, what if they were singing a song about a phone!!

And I thought this title is perfect!!

RE: I'm still really bothered by the fact that either the systems of the other businesses in the area were either equally as crappy, or have not been reviewed, or...???? Gah

Me too. I am starting to think Le might have thought heck its a gay guy he probably went home with someone and will show up, and did not really do any checking and are now claiming video did not help.

All bussiness in that area have cameras that dont "see". Sorry, does not work for me- that is just dumb IMO

And now I understand why you all were relating this to Brian-you have to kidding, another human being that just truly vanishes. My sense from some of you locals on this thread that its a pretty busy area on the weekend.

Some questions: is it beleivable to you that either none of the other businesses in that area have no cameras or blind ones. What kind of retail is round the actual bar.

Trying to get a sense of the type of club it is.

At that time of night , is it a setting where there would be alot of folks hanging on the sidewalks?

What is the drug of choice in that area for that age group?

Is that bar known to make "good" drinks.In my day we knew where you got a free pour!!

Gay friendly is term used here - is it a "crusiy" gay "area". Are lots of other bars or stores in that area gay oriented?

Is it blatent gay area - guys or girls holding hands in public etc. I am going toward that muscle thing, and homphobics doing that "lets go mess up some f## "angle.

I am sorry ,yes I am assuming there might be some rampent homophobia in a setting where it is flexing muscles for others and stealing human beings, who knows , I may be wrong but ....

Is it a liberal city, as it relates in general to hate crimes, are hate crimes an issue?

Anyone know what his relationship history was/ Long term lover in past? Bitter breakup? While out, was he arragant? (piss off someone).

In general what was his drinking patterns - was he a "party" person?

Is that club or area kinda known for drinks being laced?

History of other people missing directly from that bar or area?

I would think most of us would agree that calling someone a liar is indicative of some kind of conflict occuring around that time. Anyone know exactly who that directed to? Their relationship?

DId he talk to any friends about "some" guy hitting on him that he had no attraction to? Wanted that guy to bug off?

Was it wild in there that night - ie were bouncers busy?!

There are bars that are known to be pickup bars - was this bar one of them - a lot of crusing?

Mix of gay to heterosexual? Like more gay or more hetersexual? Lesbian mix?

Drug use basically tolerated in setting?

Known for drugs?

A lot of dealing in the area??

Police involvement in area?

Does one feel "safe" in area?
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Short North is known to "be gay," but also very artsy. Monthly Gallery Hop draws a wide audience of "hip" folks. Proximity to OSU means also a lot of students. So--while Union is sorta considered a "gay" bar in a "gay" area, it's a pretty mixed crowd. Across the street is Axis--also known as a gay show bar, but the sort of place where straight people might easily go to see some drag. Drug of choice in these places is booze. Gay bashers might go there looking for action--but there are better places to go to bully folks who are different, fewer witnesses. A few years back a local food truck in the area got a lot of notice for refusing service to someone bad-mouthing gays while standing in line.
 
Columbus police said they were notified at 1:16 p.m. that the body had been discovered near a boat ramp in the area of S. Front and Whittier street

How far is this from bar? Does it fit into where his car was parked?

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/03/29/body-found-in-river.html

IF anyone who lives in the area can get a map or something for those of us not in the area that shows where the bar is - the river is in relation to the streets MENTIONED ABOVE , the ramp mentioned and where his car was parked it would help us out of towners tia

What" couple posts back it seems we seem to nationwide, have a bunch of young men who end deceased in rivers and LE concludes that they were so buzzed they accidently end up in some river.
 
inmyhumbleopinion said:
"... officers are on scene at the Scioto River near the Columbus Police impound lot ...." (BBM)

I have to leave but am wondering where this location is in relation to the Union Cafe.
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According to Mapquest, the impound lot is 6 miles from the Union Cafe.

I mean.... it IS a walk from the Union- pretty long walk....
Hopefully, it is NOT him.... but if it is... I find it pretty strange to up and leave your family at the bar and walk a half hour to the river....at 12:30 AM
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If it is Joey, I don't think he got there by walking.

Have a real sick feeling in my stomach about this...
 
Positive thoughts, energy, and prayers for Joey's family.

Hopefully an ID can come quickly.
 
CARIIS said:
But if you stop the inverview when they go tight on his cell there is one text on the 6th.

RE: http://nbc4i.com/2016/03/29/police-i...-scioto-river/ Hopefully this isn't him.

oh no,---I am not from the area but you all have been mentioning that river.........

Strange, I felt relief when this type of story first came-Zach, now I feel sad.....

About 20 min or so ago I was gonna eat. Well, I no longer feel hunger. And so now what? Are we gonna have another young fit person that just falls into rivers?

Now with this breaking news, I go with a crime, OR if we think about this the last thing was "go to the bar for a drink". I go laced drink.

HUmm was whoever was called a liar there at the bar?

Ugh, I just learned a short time ago about how unsafe this zip code is and now this.......

There has been no mention at all about him being buzzed, so IMO it had to be a crime, or his last drink laced, he left and whatever was put in there started to slowly hit as he was walking wherever,
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I still don't follow. Your posts are hard to read sometimes. I don't know what HUmm is either.
 
 
lupinibean said:
According to Mapquest, the impound lot is 6 miles from the Union Cafe.


If it is Joey, I don't think he got there by walking.

Have a real sick feeling in my stomach about this...
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Scioto's current is fairly strong this time of year. The current location would not indicate an entry point into the river.
 
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