OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #56

[Loomis124]

JMO, but let's please don't get the night of the murders mixed up with the physical altercation between Billy and CRSR 3 weeks prior to the murders. It sounds to me they are being confused here. Again, JMO.

AG withdraws from Rhoden case, new details about Wagner-Rhoden relationship revealed

Latter is the link to ACs statement in court about the altercation 3 weeks prior to tbe killings

 

[Cool Cats]

It doesn't bother me at all. It's just speculation that has gone on so long, some folks assume it as fact. It may be, we don't know yet.

It will all come out when the trials begin. I think it's safe to say that during the time when

• Hanna was at home nursing Kylie and
  
• Dana was working the second half of a double shift at the nursing home and
• Brently was being dropped off by his mom at his father's home

That the Wagners were deep into preparations to murder 8 members of the Rhoden family. They had been planning those murders for 4 months.

They were getting dressed in camo, possibly putting on BPV's, their Walmart shoes and getting their weapons ready. But most of all, they were making phone calls, intercepting the calls of their victims, driving around to check and see what the victims were doing - who was where, who was asleep, etc. They were probably sending texts and making calls to see where everyone was. Maybe even taking drugs to keep them wired and awake all night.

They were also attempting to establish alibis for the night. But they were stalking and planning with bloody rage in their cold, black hearts and seeping through their feeble, functionally illiterate brains. Plotting revenge against a family who were guilty of nothing more than standing up to the bullying of a family of mouth-breathing grifters.

We will find out the details soon enough.

JMO of course.

The problem with that is LE would see all these phone calls and texts to the victims, it would be obvious what they were doing. I think they would have to do the opposite, cut off communication to the victms.

I think they had bugs in the houses and Jake could sneak up UHR any night to listen through a device designed to pick up the sound.

And/or there were hidden cameras in all the homes and they could see exactly who was there. Now people can see into their own homes from phone security cameras. In fact, just by having cameras outside they could simply watch the driveways for visitors and to see who was home, like when Dana pulled up from work.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Snipped from article:

"Kayla Hay said she’s a former co-worker of one of the victims. She said she never heard Dana Rhoden say anything about being frightened or concerned about anything bad happening."

Pot operations found at 3 of 4 Pike County murder sites - Times Gazette

 

[Sillybilly]

Posts have been removed. Stop the back and forth bickering and badgering about a phone call.

Some folks seem to recall the phone call in MSM, others think it was speculation. If you don't get the info or link you ask for the first time, move on without arguing, being rude or personalizing about it.

Long story short, if it happened it will come out at trial. This isn't a contest. Believe what you choose to believe, make a mental note and move on.

 

[Cool Cats]

I'm torn between #1 and #2, but am leaning more in the direction of #1. JMO. Why? I think there was Plan A and Plan B to get custody. Plan A failed and Plan B was implemented. Again, JMO.

Plan A?

 

[molly1255]

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Plan A?

Plan A: Get HR to sign over custody.

 

[Betty P]

The problem with that is LE would see all these phone calls and texts to the victims, it would be obvious what they were doing. I think they would have to do the opposite, cut off communication to the victms.

I think they had bugs in the houses and Jake could sneak up UHR any night to listen through a device designed to pick up the sound.

And/or there were hidden cameras in all the homes and they could see exactly who was there. Now people can see into their own homes from phone security cameras. In fact, just by having cameras outside they could simply watch the driveways for visitors and to see who was home, like when Dana pulled up from work.

I'm not sure about that many hidden mics or cameras but we do know the discovery files for JW have a,lot of audio files and phone records. We also know he was texting ( or messaging) James Manley that night ( according to what JM claims police told him). So he wasn't too concerned with leaving cell phone or text message records in the area that night.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Pike County: 'That's all we've got left. Just those kids.'
As authorities continue to investigate the Rhoden family slaying in Pike County, at least three families are beginning the laborious process to gain custody of the babies left behind.
Chris Graves, and Carrie Cochran
Cincinnati

• Eight bodies, four children; no answers
• Kylie's daddy
• A home and a daycare

Samantha Robinson still isn’t sure who handed Ruger Rhoden to her on the chaotic morning of April 22.

But she cradled the 6-month-old, covered in his parents' blood, for three hours on Union Hill Road. He drifted to sleep as his older brother — who is her grandson — played in the car’s backseat, before child protective authorities took him from her.

Perhaps, she ponders now, that was her purpose on the devastating day that left Ruger and his 5-day-old cousin, Kylie Rhoden, orphans.

Inside the Rhoden investigation: Scientists work with cops

Kylie's unanswered question

In the abyss of unanswered and seemingly never-ending questions, one answer may come soon for Kylie: The name of her daddy.

From Rhoden matriarch, the sound of heartbreak


Learning how to be a mom: Ruger's story

Gilley is so confident that he is Kylie's dad that he and an older sister, Meranda Gilley, have rented a four-bedroom house. They have painted it and fixed it up in hopes they will bring Kylie home one day soon along with Ruger Rhoden, he said. It's even near a daycare and not far from their jobs, he said.

Ruger's mom, Hannah Gilley, was their sister.

Meranda Gilley is also working with a lawyer in hopes of winning custody of her nephew, who was the light of her sister's life.

Hannah Gilley adored the baby and only once let someone watch him. She nursed Ruger and found leaving him nearly impossible, said her paternal grandmother Glenna Gilley.

"She absolutely adored him. He was just starting to sit up and crawl. She was so proud of him," she said.

Ruger visited her home with his mom and aunt on the Wednesday before the killings.

Hannah Gilley was "learning to be a mom" and doted on both him and his older half-brother Brentley, whom she considered her son as well.

Both grandparents worry the babies will forget them the longer the case drags out. They worry Ruger was having a difficult time adjusting to a bottle.

"Whoever has them, I just hope they show them picture of us," Glenna Gilley said. "I don't want him to forget us."

****


Tony Rhoden can't help but worry about that, too. And he vowed he and all the Rhodens will remain involved in their lives.

Recently, he made a special trip out to visit Samantha Robinson, grandmother of Ruger's 3-year-old half-brother Brentley. Brentley is the son of Frankie Rhoden and Chelsea Robinson, who is Samantha Robinson's daughter.

Tony Rhoden asked her if he can remain in Brentley's life.

"That day, we talked for hours. We cried and we laughed,'' Robinson said. "Mostly we cried."

Tony Rhoden told her he would be there for Brentley: "He said he'll be even closer to him now," Robinson said.

And she said she would never keep her grandson from his great uncles, aunts or cousins.

"I told him don't be scared about that,'' she said.

"We are family,'' she said, "And no one can change that

 

[Cool Cats]

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[Cool Cats]

I'm not sure about that many hidden mics or cameras but we do know the discovery files for JW have a,lot of audio files and phone records. We also know he was texting ( or messaging) James Manley that night ( according to what JM claims police told him). So he wasn't too concerned with leaving cell phone or text message records in the area that night.

The only audio files I'm finding for Jake are the 4 he did for his BCI interviews, plus 1 video interview. Do you have a link for more audio files? You say there are alot. Thankx.

https://html2-f.scribdassets.com/2of5ye351c6p7oer/images/3-9

 

[NotHammerToed]

Yes, Jake's telling the story of just missing an encounter with the killers at Dana's home sounds similar to his grandmother feigning surprise and fear ("We thought it was ISIS or something!") and rushing out to buy Billy a new bulletproof vest.

JMO

Just shows they weren’t as meticulous as they’d like us to believe, lots of mistakes have been made. Also, I would just like to point out that purchasing a bulletproof vest under the guise of a potential Isis sleeper cell in Ohio has got to be the worst excuse FW could of come up with.

 

[dgfred]

Ya think maybe she was worried about later witnesses/accomplices being knocked off?

If you can kill 8 no telling what you are capable of doing.

 

[Puzzles8]

Just shows they weren’t as meticulous as they’d like us to believe, lots of mistakes have been made. Also, I would just like to point out that purchasing a bulletproof vest under the guise of a potential Isis sleeper cell in Ohio has got to be the worst excuse FW could of come up with.

But at the same time if Fred was genuinely worried about ISIS, she also might have been worried about Green Martians coming after Billy too. I'm surprised FW did not also order a UFO for Billy to escape in.

Fred having purchased a new bulletproof plate for Billy's vest(immediately after the murders) is suspect. You have to wonder how and why the original plate was fatally damaged?

No links, All Just My Opinion.

 

[Betty P]

But at the same time if Fred was genuinely worried about ISIS, she also might have been worried about Green Martians coming after Billy too. I'm surprised FW did not also order a UFO for Billy to escape in.

Fred having purchased a new bulletproof plate for Billy's vest(immediately after the murders) is suspect. You have to wonder how and why the original plate was fatally damaged?

No links, All Just My Opinion.

Don't forget that AC mentioned in one of the recent pre-trial hearings that Fred Wagner had searched the internet for information about the penalty for lying to a grand jury. Why was she worried about having to lie to the GJ?

AG withdraws from Rhoden case, new details about Wagner-Rhoden relationship revealed

The court filing also reveals that Billy Wagner’s mother, Fredericka, who had been previously charged with perjury, searched for penalties related to lying to the grand jury the night before she testified in 2018. Those charges were dismissed but prosecutors have said they may refile at a later date.

Fredericka had offered grand jury testimony that she purchased bullet-resistant vests on the internet after the Rhoden murders because she wanted to protect her son. Prosecutors had claimed the vests were used in the homicides. However, Wagner’s attorney revealed the vests were purchased on eBay after the homicides.

BBM

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Makes a person wonder why the Wagners want the wittiness list from the grand jury so so bad, JMO

 

[Johnny B Bad]

What is the reason why Billy Wagner had that tattoo put on his trigger finger, Please Comment on this Sluthers?

 

[Betty P]

Makes a person wonder why the Wagners want the wittiness list from the grand jury so so bad, JMO

And why they want GW4 and Billy Wagner out on bail.

A lot of people would be at risk.

 

[Betty P]

What is the reason why Billy Wagner had that tattoo put on his trigger finger, Please Comment on this Sluthers?

To boast about killing the 8 members of the Rhoden family.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

The 4 Cowards went to the Rhodens/Gilley house in the middle of the night and shoots them in their bed, and kills some of them in front of their babies, what a shame, those 4 monsters need to be put on death row, The prosecution needs to bring FW back up on charges also, JMO

 

[Johnny B Bad]

To boast about killing the 8 members of the Rhoden family.

That’s really something to brag about, to kill someone where they feel the safest at (In BED) I hope the 4WAGNERS has to sleep with one eye open in jail to keep one of their fellow inmates from knocking them in the head to take what they have, JMO