OH - Pike Co - 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue - 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #76

[Chelly]

I though it interesting when witness said he played cards with defense atty Nash's son a few times.


James Pilcher

@jamespilcher


Knows the son of defense lawyer Richard Nash and he played cards with him a few times
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[dgfred]

I don't understand why they didn't put more effort into the fact that they were going to murder somebody. WalMart has excellent cameras, surely your property will be searched, etc

I mean I can not believe they practiced with the guns and ammo on their on property. Then bury/sink stuff afterwards on more of their property. What the heck???

 

[joe jones]

I though it interesting when witness said he played cards with defense atty Nash's son a couple times.

I did too, but then what does that have to do with the murders, to me AC was just being catty

 

[dgfred]

Criminals sure be stupid sometimes/many times.

 

[joe jones]

I don't understand why they didn't put more effort into the fact that they were going to murder somebody. WalMart has excellent cameras, surely your property will be searched, etc

I mean I can not believe they practiced with the guns and ammo on their on property. Then bury/sink stuff afterwards on more of their property. What the heck???

the number of crimes that are solved via Walmart cameras is huge, and still, they never learn, Big Brother is genuinely watching us, I live in one of the highest surveilled countries in the world, I expect my every move when out of the house is on camera somewhere,

 

[Chelly]

I did too, but then what does that have to do with the murders, to me AC was just being catty

SOP to ask and disclose if witness knows anyone associated with case.

 

[Betty P]

I did too, but then what does that have to do with the murders, to me AC was just being catty

JMO, it was full disclosure of his association with relatives of the defense attorney. Had they not done so, defense would have brought it up in an attempt to have Chris's testimony thrown out. They might argue that, because Chris had won or lost money to Nash's relative in a card game, he might be saying bad things to get revenge, etc.

 

[dgfred]

Yeah... don't pick your nose and such in Walmart for sure.

 

[Betty P]

Yeah... don't pick your nose and such in Walmart for sure.

Applies just about anywhere. Lots of people in our neighborhoods have those doorbell or other security cams. I remember that when I'm walking the hood. Don't want to be caught saying "why did they paint their house that ugly color" or something. Just yesterday I spotted myself on some store's video. Can't recall, but they're everywhere.

 

[Puzzles8]

What the world would Billy want with pills that CN could get from a doctor for being fat? 3 different pills and Billy would pay him to go get them and he only took one bottle?

Amphetamines

Use of diet pills and amphetamines to lose weight among smoking and nonsmoking high school seniors - PubMed

Used data on 3,305 high school seniors collected as part of the 1984 Monitoring the Future project to examine the relationships among cigarette use, diet pill use, and use of amphetamines for weight loss. Results indicate that females were more likely than males to report use of all three...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

JMO

 

[Chelly]

James Pilcher

@jamespilcher
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Back for cross examination by defense lawyer Parker. Asked him to look at George stand up ... and that George lost a lot of weight. George and Jake are like night and day
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[dgfred]

I mean it is like they planned the actual murder part down to a T... but the before and after they had no clue. Stupid before, almost perfect at murder scenes, stupid after.

Something like that from the moment they voted to go thru with it they need for 100% of everything to be clandestine.

 

[justtrish]

I don't understand why they didn't put more effort into the fact that they were going to murder somebody. WalMart has excellent cameras, surely your property will be searched, etc

I mean I can not believe they practiced with the guns and ammo on their on property. Then bury/sink stuff afterwards on more of their property. What the heck???

I don't think Angela thought that through. I mean that is pretty dang good they could match a bloody footprint to specific shoes without having the shoe. She thought those shoes were long gone and even with a receipt, I bet she had no idea they could tie that all together. They knew enough not to wear the shoes at their house so not to leave prints, but even then she didn't know they left any prints at the scene. I wonder if the guys even knew they left bloody prints? She did pay cash for those items at Walmart so I bet she was thinking that wouldn't be traced back to her because no CC and even with video, who thinks a bloody print can be matched to shoes they didn't leave anywhere to be found and then matched to her buying them at Walmart when she didn't use a CC.

They purchased many things in the weeks before that I think they just didn't think about being connected. They thought leaving no DNA or fingerprints and having no video at the scenes and no phone to link them to the area, etc.. they were in the clear no matter what was purchased before.

 

[Puzzles8]

I don't understand why they didn't put more effort into the fact that they were going to murder somebody. WalMart has excellent cameras, surely your property will be searched, etc

I mean I can not believe they practiced with the guns and ammo on their on property. Then bury/sink stuff afterwards on more of their property. What the heck???

And doesn't almost every case we follow here on Websleuths get a Walmart mention at some point!

JMO

 

[Betty P]

Amphetamines

Use of diet pills and amphetamines to lose weight among smoking and nonsmoking high school seniors - PubMed

Used data on 3,305 high school seniors collected as part of the 1984 Monitoring the Future project to examine the relationships among cigarette use, diet pill use, and use of amphetamines for weight loss. Results indicate that females were more likely than males to report use of all three...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

JMO

It sounds like Billy was always working some angle to pick up money without having to work hard or have a regular job. Chris said as much in his testimony, Billy was lazy, always running a scam for money.

 

[dgfred]

Yep. After your friend/wife/husband/etc is found missing: why is there video of you buying gloves, a shovel and lime at Walmart?

You- ahhhhhh

 

[justtrish]

Says Billy would grind his teeth so loud you could hear it in the courtroom.

I'm willing to bet a side effect of speed is teeth grinding.

 

[dgfred]

Yep, coke even more so.

 

[dgfred]

Boys- Mom, we may have left footprints at the scenes.

Mom- don't worry about it we will throw your shoes away.

Oh... but I will keep receipts just in case.

???

 

[Puzzles8]

So if George was so good at standing up to all of his family members, why couldn't he say no to participating in the planning, execution and cover up of the murders?

JMO