OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #1

[cobalt sky]

If they were trying to pull Gary, or Chris out, and were looking for something I wonder if they found it. They could've been using others to force the other to tell, then they had to kill all adults, because they knew who they were. I'm just picturing all of this in my mind. LE didn't say if anything was taken, but they never tell all, because real informers would know details not made public.

BBM - Good thoughts, but it was reported that some victims appeared to be killed execution style in their sleep. So it doesn't appear that those victims were even spoken to; they might have not been awake at all before they were shot .

 

[cobalt sky]

I understood the info to mean that the HOUSE was at the intersection....reports are that 4 homes are crime scenes. JMO

Yes, the 911 caller implies that Kenneth was found inside the Left Fork Rd residence.

 

[KKearns]

Good point. MSM has made a point to suggest that some of the victims may have been killed in their sleep.

Yesterday I heard that most were in bed but a couple were not. They came right out and said this. The preacher also said Dana worked the late shift and got off work about 11.

 

[peacehope]

Timeline given here

http://www.chillicothegazette.com/s...t-we-know-pike-county-mass-shooting/83428434/

 

[sumzero]

Does anyone know what size homes we're talking about? Were some of them mobile homes?

 

[Tillicum]

BBM - Good thoughts, but it was reported that some victims appeared to be killed execution style in their sleep. So it doesn't appear that those victims were even spoken to; they might have not been awake at all before they were shot .

If there were more than one perp I think it's likely they could've been at more than one house at a time. One could be trying to get info from Gary or Chris while the other is ready to shoot at the other house if he wouldn't tell them what they wanted to know. Maybe I'm just thinking too hard

 

[Toralei]

BBM - Good thoughts, but it was reported that some victims appeared to be killed execution style in their sleep. So it doesn't appear that those victims were even spoken to; they might have not been awake at all before they were shot .

I was thinking that it's possible those that were found in their beds were forced back to them. Two or three perps, two on the men, one escorts the women back to the bedrooms, forces them back to the bed then kills them. Granted, I'm not sure WHAT purpose that would serve other than intimidation, but we just don't know what and how things went down.

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[cujenn81]

I don't think any of this was quiet. If you look behind one mobile home there's at least three dog houses. They had dogs and other animals on property. Chris the father was a big man, him and Gary were both beaten and shot. Frankie was a big young man, also. They were all tough country people, and they were also hunters, so they had weapons. Since the suspects also knew the family, bec they went to Kenneth's home, they had to know all of this before they went there.

Someone stated Chris Jr was found at the intersection so he had to have heard things and took off running. I could see him running for help. There were gunshots, probably screaming from more than one mobile home, and this is the country where it's quiet. How could this just be one suspect? Also not one of them called for help. I doubt ninjas were in Piketon, or anyone around there had silencers so I see more than one person.

I think they may have been mistaken about the intersection thing. I think the article that transcribed only portions of the 911 call is to blame for that. The caller first said something like he's close to this address. He then clarified that he didn't know the exact address because his cousin didn't have a mailbox but that he'd go stand by the road to wait for the responders and show them.

 

[winterrose]

From media reports at first they thought everyone was killed in bed execution style, and the kids were killed. Then they said some were in bed, the children weren't hurt, now we find out about Chris and Gary. They're just feeding out a little at a time. SMH I feel so bad for all the people living in that area, they probably don't know what to think.

 

[Dr. Know?]

If anyone has a scanner account maybe they could check the archives from yesterday morning? In the scanner thread.

 

[Paulas88]

All I know is he hasn't been charged and has no bond all day & he has one heck of a record in Pike County.

http://www.pikecountycourt.org/search.php

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If they were involved with the beating of CR/KR then they would have evidence of abrasions and cut up hands, etc.

 

[peacehope]

Just a thought: Was there any child custody disputes involved with any of the kids?

 

[cobalt sky]

This case has my thoughts going in all kinds of directions. I'm a city girl so I don't know the normal routine of someone in the country who would be stopping by another residence to feed their animals. Would it be usual for Bobbie (sp?), the 911 caller/animal feeder, to enter the residence? Or would she normally just feed the animals and be on her way? Would it be usual for her to be entering their home that early in the morning? I'm just wondering what prompted her to try to get into the house, and then when it was discovered locked, why she didn't assume they were still sleeping... instead, she got the key and went inside. Something is just really off about all of this. I wonder if people close to the victims know more but are terrified to say.

Also, I was thinking, if this family was into something shady, and/or had received threats for some reason, would they be sleeping with their doors unlocked? I find it hard to believe that 4/4 residences, conveniently for the killer, had their doors unlocked while they slept. Someone could have forced entry but one would think this would have awakened the victims.

Again, something is just really off about all of this. imo

 

[Dr. Know?]

If they were involved with the beating of CR/KR then they would have evidence of abrasions and cut up hands, etc.

I thought about that and if the person or persons held a gun on them, tied them up (we don't know) they may not have been able to fight back.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Here's the link:


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They sure lived in a beautiful area. The land reminds me of where I live here in Georgia. So green and wide open spaces.

From everything I have read about this family they seem to be highly admired in their community and were known as friendly hard working people. Just doesn't seem like the kind of people who would have such a terrifying enemy or enemies. But even good families can have black sheep in them and hotheads.

As far as the demolition derby motive I don't cast aside any possible motive in this case. I have read about these kind of derbies and some of the drivers and families can be very rough with long criminal histories. At a lot of these kind of races there can be fistfights and other violence. With the way the world is now I don't discount any motive.

IMO

 

[winterrose]

I think they may have been mistaken about the intersection thing. I think the article that transcribed only portions of the 911 call is to blame for that. The caller first said something like he's close to this address. He then clarified that he didn't know the exact address because his cousin didn't have a mailbox but that he'd go stand by the road to wait for the responders and show them.

I can see that, the media wasn't given alot of info, just bits and pieces at a time until today. They've probably been updating their articles alot.

 

[sumzero]

If they were involved with the beating of CR/KR then they would have evidence of abrasions and cut up hands, etc.

The attorney general, at the first news conference, said all eight were shot in the head execution-style. He didn't indicate that anyone was beaten up. The 911 caller described a victim as being beaten up. She could have mistaken the results of a gunshot wound(s) for a physical beating. Depending on the type of gun, the wound(s) could be quite gruesome.

 

[Toralei]

The attorney general, at the first news conference, said all eight were shot in the head execution-style. He didn't indicate that anyone was beaten up. The 911 caller described a victim as being beaten up. She could have mistaken the results of a gunshot wound(s) for a physical beating. Depending on the type of gun, the wound(s) could be quite gruesome.

That would also explain her statements to the effect of blood being everywhere.

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[24Roses]

If I listened to the 911 right, the last victim that was found was Kenneth and he was found by a cousin with the last name Stone (he said his last name in the call). Kenneth didn't have a mailbox so the cousin gave the address of the nearest location and he was found in the house.

 

[Tillicum]

This case has my thoughts going in all kinds of directions. I'm a city girl so I don't know the normal routine of someone in the country who would be stopping by another residence to feed their animals. Would it be usual for Bobbie (sp?), the 911 caller/animal feeder, to enter the residence? Or would she normally just feed the animals and be on her way? Would it be usual for her to be entering their home that early in the morning? I'm just wondering what prompted her to try to get into the house, and then when it was discovered locked, why she didn't assume they were still sleeping... instead, she got the key and went inside. Something is just really off about all of this. I wonder if people close to the victims know more but are terrified to say.

Also, I was thinking, if this family was into something shady, and/or had received threats for some reason, would they be sleeping with their doors unlocked? I find it hard to believe that 4/4 residences, conveniently for the killer, had their doors unlocked while they slept. Someone could have forced entry but one would think this would have awakened the victims.

Again, something is just really off about all of this. imo

Could be some of the animals were Bobbie's and she shared in the maintenance and cost of feed. If they didn't have running water outdoors she may have been used to going inside to get water for the animals. I "feed" morning and evening but I always water then too.