OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #10

[Dr. Know?]

The docket does say rifle. I just checked again. I was just commenting that a .22 rifle is probably a common household item in the country. My ten year old started with a .22 rifle.

Yes, but I recall a .22 magnum. Not sure if it's semi automatic or just a rifle. Google had both. We had a .22 years ago. Now we are loaded with baseball bats & hornet spray...and and and...j/k

 

[winterrose]

[video=youtu;xKFt1u5O6hc]http://youtu.be/xKFt1u5O6hc[/video]

Hope this link works. Interview with local at the time autopsies released. He says "and with a shotgun" wonder if he's guessing ??

Thank you good video of the back of both mobile homes, also.

 

[kaytay]

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/opi...unbelievably-ignorant/83916808/?showmenu=true

 

[Hatfield]

The docket does say rifle. I just checked again. I was just commenting that a .22 rifle is probably a common household item in the country. My ten year old started with a .22 rifle.

If LE proves a 22 Magnum was used for some of the murders then this actually maybe very important. And here is why. Starting with some background.

I am familiar with most weapons as I have quite a few and even have both a 22 rifle and 22 pistol but this term "22 Magnum" stumped me because I have not heard it used often. The more common "22 Long" is what I thought we were talking about but come to find out there really is a bullet called "22 Magnum" which is actually different than a 22 long and I feel a lot less common than your standard 22.

The link below describes all about it.
When people say a 22 , they are usually meaning a standard .22 caliber round which comes in TWO different forms. Either a .22 Short or a .22 Long. Both have the exact same diameter shell and the difference is in length of shell casing and not diameter. The 22 long round is a little longer and has more gunpowder and has more velocity than a 22 Short round.

There are both pistols and rifles that shoot the standard 22 rounds. A 22 long capable gun can usually shoot a 22 short round but not the other way around. A 22 short capable gun that is made for 22 shorts cannot normally shoot a 22 long round. This is because of the length of the shell.

Now the interesting thing is this 22 Magnum shell which was brought up and which I was not familiar with. So I am assuming it is less common as the normal 22 rounds since I also dont know anybody that has one either. The link describes them and they are more powerful than the 22 Long shell and have an even longer shell than a 22 long. So they have the most gunpowder of all of them.

So the interesting thing about the 22 Magnum is if LE determines that it was used in the shootings then I think this could help LE tremendously since they are not nearly as common as far as people owning them as your standard 22 long or 22 short.
22 Magnum rounds are also referred to as 22 WMR rounds because they were manufactured by Winchester and I think the WMR stands for Winchester Magnum Round.

Hope some of this helps. If not then at least we learned about the 22 magnum round. LOL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Winchester_Magnum_Rimfire

 

[Lindadanette]

If LE proves a 22 Magnum was used for some of the murders then this actually maybe very important. And here is why. Starting with some background.

I am familiar with most weapons as I have quite a few and even have both a 22 rifle and 22 pistol but this term "22 Magnum" stumped me because I have not heard it used often. The more common "22 Long" is what I thought we were talking about but come to find out there really is a bullet called "22 Magnum" which is actually different than a 22 long and I feel a lot less common than your standard 22.

The link below describes all about it.
When people say a 22 , they are usually meaning a standard .22 caliber round which comes in TWO different forms. Either a .22 Short or a .22 Long. Both have the exact same diameter shell and the difference is in length of shell casing and not diameter. The 22 long round is a little longer and has more gunpowder and has more velocity than a 22 Short round.

There are both pistols and rifles that shoot the standard 22 rounds. A 22 long capable gun can usually shoot a 22 short round but not the other way around. A 22 short capable gun that is made for 22 shorts cannot normally shoot a 22 long round. This is because of the length of the shell.

Now the interesting thing is this 22 Magnum shell which was brought up and which I was not familiar with. So I am assuming it is less common as the normal 22 rounds since I also dont know anybody that has one either. The link describes them and they are more powerful than the 22 Long shell and have an even longer shell than a 22 long. So they have the most gunpowder of all of them.

So the interesting thing about the 22 Magnum is if LE determines that it was used in the shootings then I think this could help LE tremendously since they are not nearly as common as far as people owning them as your standard 22 long or 22 short.
22 Magnum rounds are also referred to as 22 WMR rounds because they were manufactured by Winchester and I think the WMR stands for Winchester Magnum Round.

Hope some of this helps. If not then at least we learned about the 22 magnum round. LOL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Winchester_Magnum_Rimfire

Check this out: More info... http://www.policemag.com/channel/we...y-brings-critical-defense-ammo-in-22-wmr.aspx

 

[rsd1200]

Must be my night to take screen shots from vids that other post Someone asked earlier about the window on the backside of 4199 UHR being open. Here is a screen capture that shows that it most certainly is. Now, does this have anything to do with murder or was it open because it was a nice spring evening and trailers get insufferably hot if they don't have AC?

In the 2nd image, I've taken the screen capture and increased it 300% to show the window clearly being open. However, the more I looked, my eye was drawn to the door. There is a hole where the porch light would have been and the door to me appears to have been jimmied or forced. From the appearance of the rest of the trailer, I'd not be surprised if it was not already like that, but then again.

I'm going w/open b/c of the nice weather. There's no porch there and for a grown person to wriggle through there they'd need some sort of help or step-up. It would have to alert someone in there. Now, the door, I can't tell either 100%, but I'd go more w/ that being the point of entry since the front door was still locked, unless they locked it back to appear "normal" in case someone dropped in that didn't know about the hidden key.

 

[bassline]

if you watch this video its pretty clear who the police have in their sights as the killers? theyre being questioned and their possessions are being impounded.. sounds like the police are starting to put 2 +2 together based on what they know.. Also fits the MO. close to the family, knows where everyone lived, many bullets suggesting its personal. first to find the bodies, had access to the properties, they knew the dogs and the dogs trusted them... this is almost convinced me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQmqtNLHcTU&feature=youtu.be

 

[black_squirrel]

I was still unable to find any video with BM. All I find about LM and the 'revenge' statement is numerous MSM articles (without video). But wanted to thank everyone for the suggestions of where to look.

LM has made several, contradicting statements in our heart.

I presume you were referring to the article entitled "Ain't got no revenge in our hearts"
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...enge-our-hearts-pike-co-family-says/83517330/

I found a video on twitter posted by the reporter @chetanrakieten on April 25th. (It shows up with #ohioshooting), where he says
"I believe in the Lord, and all that, and I believe in revenge too, if I get the chance."

Asked about a message to the killer(s), he said:
"If they can live with it, I can too. But it's going to be on their conscience for the rest of their lives... It's going to be on my conscience for the rest of my life."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nies-family-involved-drugs.html#ixzz47kfiWRnT
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That last statement is somewhat mysterious to me. He seems to be saying that he has done something for which he morally is responsible. To me it sounds like he already had his revenge, and that he has no regrets.

 

[Dr. Know?]

<modsnip>

Pike County: Most media have gone home, but investigation continues

Wednesday afternoon, flatbed trucks hauling shells of old vehicles from the Rhoden family properties continued to rumble down the still-closed Union Hill Road, the drivers dropping them off where local and state investigators have set up shop.

But the incident command center trailer, on loan from the Butler County sheriff&#8217;s office, remains in place, and the warehouse that has become temporary headquarters for investigators remains a hive of activity.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/sto...ve-gone-home-but-investigation-continues.html

 

[Lindadanette]

[video=youtube;Kt2QPhXUB04]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt2QPhXUB04[/video] I'm not the only one who is wondering...

 

[Mmaaix]

LM has made several, contradicting statements in our heart.

I presume you were referring to the article entitled "Ain't got no revenge in our hearts"
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...enge-our-hearts-pike-co-family-says/83517330/

I found a video on twitter posted by the reporter @chetanrakieten on April 25th. (It shows up with #ohioshooting), where he says
"I believe in the Lord, and all that, and I believe in revenge too, if I get the chance."

Asked about a message to the killer(s), he said:
"If they can live with it, I can too. But it's going to be on their conscience for the rest of their lives... It's going to be on my conscience for the rest of my life."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nies-family-involved-drugs.html#ixzz47kfiWRnT
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

That last statement is somewhat mysterious to me. He seems to be saying that he has done something for which he morally is responsible. To me it sounds like he already had his revenge, and that he has no regrets.

I think the conscience thing is meaning he couldn't protect is family, or that's what I'm thinking .

 

[Dr. Know?]

I've seen some cold hearted people in my life, but some of them should stay off facebook. jmo

 

[NZkiwi]

[video=youtube;Kt2QPhXUB04]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt2QPhXUB04[/video] I'm not the only one who is wondering...

I do remb seeing this on Chris jrs page

 

[pisces51]

LM has made several, contradicting statements in our heart.

I presume you were referring to the article entitled "Ain't got no revenge in our hearts"
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...enge-our-hearts-pike-co-family-says/83517330/

I found a video on twitter posted by the reporter @chetanrakieten on April 25th. (It shows up with #ohioshooting), where he says
"I believe in the Lord, and all that, and I believe in revenge too, if I get the chance."

Asked about a message to the killer(s), he said:
"If they can live with it, I can too. But it's going to be on their conscience for the rest of their lives... It's going to be on my conscience for the rest of my life."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nies-family-involved-drugs.html#ixzz47kfiWRnT
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

That last statement is somewhat mysterious to me. He seems to be saying that he has done something for which he morally is responsible. To me it sounds like he already had his revenge, and that he has no regrets.

I think he just meant that he has to live with the horror in his mind for the rest of his life. As far as revenge, kick his *advertiser censored*, take him out, rough her up, show them, eye for an eye...that seems to be as common as saying "he'd give you the shirt off his back". You see those comments throughout Facebook pages and not about the murders but just everyday life, from men and women.

 

[no one]

LM has made several, contradicting statements in our heart.

I presume you were referring to the article entitled "Ain't got no revenge in our hearts"
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...enge-our-hearts-pike-co-family-says/83517330/

I found a video on twitter posted by the reporter @chetanrakieten on April 25th. (It shows up with #ohioshooting), where he says
"I believe in the Lord, and all that, and I believe in revenge too, if I get the chance."

Asked about a message to the killer(s), he said:
"If they can live with it, I can too. But it's going to be on their conscience for the rest of their lives... It's going to be on my conscience for the rest of my life."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nies-family-involved-drugs.html#ixzz47kfiWRnT
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

That last statement is somewhat mysterious to me. He seems to be saying that he has done something for which he morally is responsible. To me it sounds like he already had his revenge, and that he has no regrets.

The "I they can live with it, I can too." to be puzzling. It's a strange thing to say. It almost makes me think he suspects who did it and has realized it is family that he loves. And he had spoke of believing in revenge previously but now speaks of having no revenge in his heart. It just makes me wonder if he has had to come to terms with suspecting it is someone close to him and he can't bear to lose them too. Just a really strange interview.

on another note, I was watching some videos tonight and ran across this one. What I found particularly interesting in it was what the man they interviewed had to say. He very specifically mentions one of them being shot 9 times....with a shotgun". Now, up until now I have heard no one, including the media say what kind of a gun was used. And he threw that in there so "matter of fact". Not sure if he really knows that or is going by rumors around the community, or just misunderstood the media to say that when they only said "9 gunshots". Sometimes people hear things that aren't there. But, it sure jumped out at me and I found it very interesting.

[video=youtu;xKFt1u5O6hc]http://youtu.be/xKFt1u5O6hc[/video]

 

[creepcrusher]

LM has made several, contradicting statements in our heart.

I presume you were referring to the article entitled "Ain't got no revenge in our hearts"
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...enge-our-hearts-pike-co-family-says/83517330/

I found a video on twitter posted by the reporter @chetanrakieten on April 25th. (It shows up with #ohioshooting), where he says
"I believe in the Lord, and all that, and I believe in revenge too, if I get the chance."

Asked about a message to the killer(s), he said:
"If they can live with it, I can too. But it's going to be on their conscience for the rest of their lives... It's going to be on my conscience for the rest of my life."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nies-family-involved-drugs.html#ixzz47kfiWRnT
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

That last statement is somewhat mysterious to me. He seems to be saying that he has done something for which he morally is responsible. To me it sounds like he already had his revenge, and that he has no regrets.

To me he sounds like he wants to get revenge on the killers, but he knows it would be on his conscience for the rest of his life.

 

[sumzero]

To me he sounds like he wants to get revenge on the killers, but he knows it would be on his conscience for the rest of his life.

Exactly how I read it, too.

 

[winterrose]

Kenneth's campers

 

[K.L.Puyallup]

Kenneth's campers

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Thanks for these, winterrose! I'll edit them into the map

 

[Lindadanette]

I do remb seeing this on Chris jrs page

Messed up, K-9 trained and looking for cash? I read the comments and thought, "I'm not the only one who's been wondering about this guy "... His Grand Jury hearing was supposed to happen on the 22nd. I wonder if it did and/or if LE is considering him. At first he looks heavyset, but then you see it's muscle.