The camera is under eave by white trailer in garage .They could be up under the eaves ot porch roof to keep them out of the rain. Also not the window being open on the end of the trailer in this pic. Did LE open it?
The camera is under eave by white trailer in garage .They could be up under the eaves ot porch roof to keep them out of the rain. Also not the window being open on the end of the trailer in this pic. Did LE open it?
Dog house and the bare dirt is the radius of the circle is the length of the dog chain...
Dog house and the bare dirt is the radius of the circle is the length of the dog chain...
This doesn't look like a dog house to me?
maoxian said:Not only does it look like a dog house to me, it looks like you circled the dog himself!
No, don't know when GR arrived for sure. The intoxication levels would be a great thing to know. Alcohol can be an instigator in a lot of altercations. I'd not doubt that's the same car either. I've heard rumors about CR2. I've hoped they're not true but they would place him somewhere other than his mother's home.
The camera is by the red car in garage by the eave I know for sure cuss friend of mine saw the outside of crime s sceneClear photo!
The camera is under eave by white trailer in garage .
Yes, that's what I thought. It looks like it's lying down, and I sure hope it's sleeping.
I did mention and I do think he was possibly renting to own or land contract. I think another one of his properties was a land contract but can't remember for sure. I think they have to have some sort of agreement. I'm not sure
Here's a large photo of the crime scene at CR1's home. I'm not an expert, but I'm not seeing any cameras on these buildings. I realize they may be small, but what do you all think?
Since the killers dismantled and took the camera system at KR's property, did they do the same at CR1's? I'm having trouble linking, so you may need to cut and paste.
http://www.trbimg.com/img-571a9c8c/turbine/ct-ohio-shooting-pike-county-20160422
ETA: Click on the photo at the link and you'll see a large, hi res photo of the area.
I've not seen any indication of him renting any property, other than him possibly renting out his own property, on Camp Creek Rd. Everything, other than Camp Creek, and this little piece that CR1's trailer has been placed on rather haphazardly, (which the st name is 3 N SIDE UNION RD C-30 & Parcel # 230077000000) is listed as et al with his three brothers, one other of which is deceased now.
I think the silver car in that photo is the one said to be CR2's car.
When I compare rear views of a Hyundai Tiburon with the car in the photo, it appears to be a match down to the rear wing or whatever those things are called.
I raised this question about that car previously. It was suggested that perhaps he walked the approximately one mile back to where his mother lived.
I don't know many 16 year-olds who would walk rather than drive or catch a ride.
Maybe his car needed work and he either walked or caught a ride to get to his mother's?
Or maybe he spent that night at his father's place or even with his brother FR next door.
The Pike County Sheriff's office incident report for 4077 Union Hill Road that we have seen makes it pretty clear that only two bodies were initially found in CR1's mobile home -- CR1 and GR.
So if CR2 was at that general location when all of this went down, he might have been at his brother's or maybe there is some truth to the persisting possibility that one of the deceased was outside when killed.
I have also read that this person who was found outside was actually found last which would mean after KR I don't know how true this is but it does come directly from a family member
I remember reading that one of the victims was found outside, can't remember where, though. But if I understand correctly, we have no official information on who was found where or at wich residence? I understand that it's quite obvious, but I'm trying to seperate the official statements from all the others.( Our poor brains. ��
The home was found to be unoccupied except for the two deceased males in the back bedroom. Both male subjects I observed were lying in close proximity to each other and were obviously deceased.
It's never been confirmed he was found outside in MSM, therefore we can only consider it speculation and not as fact. Same with the order in which the bodies were found.
Also, I don't believe it because the initial press conference stated they found 7 bodies and then they had gotten the call about KR making it 8 around 1330. JMO.
Yes, but, out in the country you normally do not have to have a building permit and people build their own structures a lot of the time and do their own wiring, etc... He may very well have known at the time when the transfer was made to him and his siblings where his land boundaries were. But, like me, and the guy I told you about, as time goes on, and the land has been in the family for a long time, the lines blur. I could not tell you where my property lines are at this time. Would I build a permanent structure w/o checking? No. But do other people do so? Yes. It happens more often than you'd think. Just like the guy I mentioned. It was thousands of dollars that he spent. It was not his property. Obviously he didn't check either. I know of cases where people have put up fencing and even built a structure and it was inches over onto another's property. It is a mess at the end of the day b/c they "thought" they knew where their boundary line was. Many old property descriptions read; from the pin oak tree at the left fork, to the sapling white oak, 300 yards... So you have to get a guy out to survey. That costs money and you have to have a stranger on your land. . . wandering around. . .
But, considering all the access to cars it also seemed he had, maybe he drove a different one to DR's? Or maybe CRsr was living at DR's and used CRjr's car to go check on the house or hang out with GR? I could see a lot of reasons for his main Tiburon to be at CRsr's if he wasn't. And yes, I 100% believe that silver car is the Tiburon, the back end looks just like one.