Mr. Pate, if that is who you really are, just to clarify, you only need to be verified once. Because you have some strong suspicions in this case that could really hurt someone's feelings and reputation, AND you began by informing us of your prestigious expertise, I think you should pony up now.
OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #16
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Mr. Pate, if that is who you really are, just to clarify, you only need to be verified once. Because you have some strong suspicions in this case that could really hurt someone's feelings and reputation, AND you began by informing us of your prestigious expertise, I think you should pony up now.
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Ha Ha, Reader would make a very ugly female sheriff. Daggone he's had plenty of people fooled for years. He does kinda' laugh like a female though. I know, it's all in the eyes. :laughcry:
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I remember an article I read where Tricia said she gets requests from LE for IPs of a user or two every once in a while. I imagine they may occasionally cross reference fb visitors/WS users.
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Oh, me too. I could be a qualified criminal with everything I have researched about murders, up to and including the body farm and stages of decompensation. I just have a hungry mind that needs to be fed with plenty of knowledge.
I think he has had a pretty good idea who the perp was from the very beginning! I don't believe the cars, weed, and roosters are so connected to the murders, I think they were discovered because of the murders The counties seem to be intertwined and most people know of each other to some degree.
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Interestingly, an article that appeared in today's Columbus Dispatch reports that AG Dewine, Readers, and other investigators met together today to discuss this case. If that report is true, Reader's "vacation" must be over.
I find it puzzling that the media articles list that CRsr was shot 9 times and KR was shot 1 time -- but they don't list the other victims and how many times they were shot. Wouldn't each death certificate contain that - the same - information? Or were those two the only ones released?
In reply to the comments about why someone would drag the bodies... Perhaps they thought that someone else might be coming and were attempting to clear the bodies from a main room. Obviously, the blood would make it clear something had happened there but not as quickly as two bodies sitting in the middle of the room.
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http://www.chillicothegazette.com/s...-family-death-certificates-released/85051602/
"The Pike County Sheriff's Office and the Bureau of Criminal Investigation are working the investigation. Sheriff Charles Reader called the efforts "very much intertwined," in an interview with the Gazette Wednesday.
Reader said he was "very pleased" with how the investigation is going. He also noted the total expenditures from the sheriff's office have reached more than $135,000 in the course of this investigation."
"The Pike County Sheriff's Office and the Bureau of Criminal Investigation are working the investigation. Sheriff Charles Reader called the efforts "very much intertwined," in an interview with the Gazette Wednesday.
Reader said he was "very pleased" with how the investigation is going. He also noted the total expenditures from the sheriff's office have reached more than $135,000 in the course of this investigation."
Do any other media sources have access to the death certificate info? It looks like the Columbus Dispatch is the only news outlet reporting the information, and it's rather vague. Interesting. What's going on? Did they get special access?
ETA: Ok, it looks like the Chillicothe Gazette is now reporting. Odd that there's no real time of death reported other than when bodies were discovered.
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Forensic Profiling for Dummies. After reading both today's release, and FPFD, I've found several things to wonder about. A couple I've listed. It's got some good info, I found it to be very interesting.
"Overkill usually is personal, with anger as the common underlying drive." - We definitely seem to have overkill at play here.
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Signatures.
Signatures are important to the offender in some personal way. Torturing the victim, overkill, postmortem mutilation or posing, and the taking of souvenirs or trophies are signatures. These actions are driven by the killer's psychological needs and fantasies. (Overkill: All of the deceased seem to be victims of overkill except for KR. Posing: Possibly a stretch, but all were found in bed except CR1 and GR, however, they were moved to the bedroom)
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/forensics-profiling-the-perpetrator.html
Kind of an unusual statement. It doesn't really say anything. No mention of any other collaboration outside of BCI and local LE. More and more I'm getting the feeling this case will go cold.
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Isnt a death certificate public knowledge or how does that work?
My husband passed away and
About 6 to 8 months after his death I was getting satellite switched from one home to another and I was removing his name from the bill , they looked his death up in a matter of minutes.... I am not sure what they could see but they verified His passing
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From my understanding, he just took a couple of days off, not a full blown vacation.. (or at least not what I call a vacation) but I plan mine wisely, they turn into 10 days off work straight.
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I like your statement about the escape tunnels. I feel like that's a big possibility here. JMO
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Am coming to this thread late - apologies. Immediately, what I've noticed is that Gary's time of death is listed as being at 8:07am per this article (killed in Greenup, Kentucky). Then four minutes later CR1,Frankie and HG at 8:11am.
Is this bizarre, or just giving us the order that the victims were targeted?
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Unless KR turned on his family for some reason, and was partnered with the assailant that night, however, when they got back to KR's camper early that morning to regroup, say, about 5:30-ish a.m., the lead partner shoots KR once through the head. He's not angry at him, just has no use for him any longer, so he shoots him only once, and a lone turkey hunter hears a gunshot but doesn't think anything of it.
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Wait, why on earth would you be subpoenaed? You're not working this case, regardless of what you did as a career in the past. If you nailed it down on an online message board, you'd have to become involved legally? What???
From your link: BBM
DeWine is out fundraising for his campaign for governor (for profit charter school execs make big donations), he's not investigating. He's just issuing press releases.
Seems somewhat discouraging that, with all the money spent, interviews and evidence gathered, they're no closer to finding the killers.
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