But if that were the case, then they defeated their whole purpose, since ?????? ended up ruining the good thing themselves.
Sending a message?
But if that were the case, then they defeated their whole purpose, since ?????? ended up ruining the good thing themselves.
I just got real defensive about it when the telemarketers used my phone more than I did. Didn't seem to help, they still call as much as ever.
This family did do Facebook, I won't even do that myself. My relatives are constantly saying "get on FB!", I say, "you've got my phone number and my email address!".
IMO this is spot on...too many things wrong for it to be strangers...caught everyone home? got by dogs family said should have attacked? cameras gone?...how could a stranger do this?
Theres always a possiblity that FR or HG or the mother called her late at night to let her know the child was dropped off. This was a unscheduled visit for the child and it took place late in the evening hours.. If you look at the front of the trailer. You cannot see in from the outside, so she didnt see him in there laying on the couch. So how did she know he was there? Just a thought to ponder.
I listened to the 911 call and no I dont think its fake. But I dont know her either. Maybe she didnt personally kill them, maybe she had it done and then she went in totally unprepared on what she saw. I haven't got past the inconsistencies in her story . I hope I am wrong.. I hope it was strangers that did this and she had nothing to do with it.
No one has mentioned that giving everyone a poly would open up avenues of justice.Most would fight such a request.
The, bare down,Some the AG can not make take the poly.elected officials..JMO.
These folks had guns and were familiar with them. I don't think they ever woke up. If they were awake, like we believe CR1/GR were, or possibly DR, then I think it was such a total surprise to them that they didn't have time to get their guns. I had a friend who was in a motel room. They always carried. Had their gun on the nightstand and were hanging out with some friends watching t.v. before calling it a night. Some of the friends were even carrying. A couple guys busted through the door of their room w/their guns drawn and told them if they reached they died. They took all of their money and anything else they wanted and left. This was in an older motel, with exterior doors. I try to avoid them now.
He had at least 2 doors.
One in back..
One in front..
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That is what is odd to me also. The article said they took 14 dogs to the shelter. By accounts there was 1 at KR's kept inside per DS. At least 2 At CR1's kept inside per BJM. I counted 4 chained in the back at FR's per photos. No one has said for certain there were any dogs at DR's and I saw no evidence any were chained in the photos. That accounts for 7 dogs. Were the other 7 just running loose? 14 dogs and none of them barked and alerted the family inside? Hard to believe as I have 4 dogs, a min pin, a toy chihuahua, a cherweinnie and a boxer/boston terrier mix which are kept in the house at night. All of them bark like crazy if they hear the slightest noise. They even bark at my son and grandsons when they come to visit. At least one of my grandsons is here 75% of the time and they act like they have never seen him before when he walks in the yard. I realize that mine are all small yappy dogs but it would seem that the bigger dogs like a pit bull would at least bark when someone approached. On a side note 14 dogs, I don't know how they could afford health insurance on all of them, that had to be at least 300.00 per month. And being in a rural area I cannot believe that at least CR1, and KR and maybe even DR did not sleep with a loaded gun close by. Fr may not have with small children in the house but the others probably had a gun close if not in bed with them. It is unreal that someone walked past 14 dogs and into 4 homes and killed 8 people without waking anyone. The sheer numbers in this case are mindboggling.
Theres always a possiblity that FR or HG or the mother called her late at night to let her know the child was dropped off. This was a unscheduled visit for the child and it took place late in the evening hours.. If you look at the front of the trailer. You cannot see in from the outside, so she didnt see him in there laying on the couch. So how did she know he was there? Just a thought to ponder.
That is what is odd to me also. The article said they took 14 dogs to the shelter. By accounts there was 1 at KR's kept inside per DS. At least 2 At CR1's kept inside per BJM. I counted 4 chained in the back at FR's per photos. No one has said for certain there were any dogs at DR's and I saw no evidence any were chained in the photos. That accounts for 7 dogs. Were the other 7 just running loose? 14 dogs and none of them barked and alerted the family inside? Hard to believe as I have 4 dogs, a min pin, a toy chihuahua, a cherweinnie and a boxer/boston terrier mix which are kept in the house at night. All of them bark like crazy if they hear the slightest noise. They even bark at my son and grandsons when they come to visit. At least one of my grandsons is here 75% of the time and they act like they have never seen him before when he walks in the yard. I realize that mine are all small yappy dogs but it would seem that the bigger dogs like a pit bull would at least bark when someone approached. On a side note 14 dogs, I don't know how they could afford health insurance on all of them, that had to be at least 300.00 per month. And being in a rural area I cannot believe that at least CR1, and KR and maybe even DR did not sleep with a loaded gun close by. Fr may not have with small children in the house but the others probably had a gun close if not in bed with them. It is unreal that someone walked past 14 dogs and into 4 homes and killed 8 people without waking anyone. The sheer numbers in this case are mindboggling.
These folks had guns and were familiar with them. I don't think they ever woke up. If they were awake, like we believe CR1/GR were, or possibly DR, then I think it was such a total surprise to them that they didn't have time to get their guns. I had a friend who was in a motel room. They always carried. Had their gun on the nightstand and were hanging out with some friends watching t.v. before calling it a night. Some of the friends were even carrying. A couple guys busted through the door of their room w/their guns drawn and told them if they reached they died. They took all of their money and anything else they wanted and left. This was in an older motel, with exterior doors. I try to avoid them now.
Hope this makes since.
What if DR told CR1 that the only way she'd get back together with him if he got rid of the pot. So he was in the process of doing what she wanted. CR1 told ??? that him and DR were getting back together and DR wanted the pot gone. And ??? figured CR1 family isn't going to ruin a good thing they gotta go.
MOO
Looking at these photos, there are no windows on one end of the trailer and a silver colored tarp over that portion of the trailer. Could this have been where one of the grow ops was?
And being in a rural area I cannot believe that at least CR1, and KR and maybe even DR did not sleep with a loaded gun close by. Fr may not have with small children in the house but the others probably had a gun close if not in bed with them.
I don't think it's sinister, but, it would be nice to know when was the last time she talked to them, or saw them, to know he was there. I'd probably have been yelling for Frankie and Hannah rather than a three year old. j.s.
.Where is there any evidence that she knew B was there? If you are referring to the following quote from the Cincinnati Enquirer,
"She pounded on the door, calling for Frankie or for B to open the door for 'Aunt Jo.'"
Those are not BJM's words, this was just how the reporter wrote the story. I feel it is not completely accurate, but people are running with it.
BBM. I'm confused. Health insurance for dogs is required in Ohio? It isn't in the state I live in.
Not mine either but most people I know with pets have health insurance on them. A lot of companies here offer their employees the option of paying for health insurance on pets out of their paychecks each week just like they would health insurance on any family members. Otherwise if their pets get sick or hurt the vet bills can be enormous and cause a financial burden on the pet parents. (My chihuahua that passed in 2013 had 6000.00 in vet bills from surgery and specialists called in prior to the surgery.) Sorry I assumed that everyone is like me I guess and has health insurance on their pets. My bad.