OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) - #24

[jk204]

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[jk204]

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That part right there sounds like survivor's guilt. Not to get into religion again, but I hear that a lot, that God made a choice. Whatever happened was His will. I'm not saying it was or it wasn't. But comments like that helps folks to get through difficult situations. It keeps them from going crazy pondering the "butterfly affect".

You are probably right. It's good to have your insight because this is something I am not very sensitive to

 

[Elley Mae]

A last bit on the Jody Barr interview

*http://m.fox19.com/fox19/pm_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=od:8ttSkgGS

I thought this weird the first time I read this. It takes more then a written name in a bible to be granted a child legally. She should probably stop talking, someone could look at that as motive. jmo

 

[jk204]

I thought this weird the first time I read this. It takes more then a written name in a bible to be granted a child legally. She should probably stop talking, someone could look at that as motive. jmo

I see what you mean and it raises questions.

But to be fair and balanced, it could be that:

- her story is odd but true
- she has survivor guilt
- she is not used to deal with media and says things to media to sound smart
- it could be that she has done nothing wrong and is frustrated with LE because she takes heat for no reason

So I want to be cautious here. But for sure, she should check her communication. It's not a good idea to say you are frustrated with law enforcement at 9 on a scale of 10 when you are the daughter and the "sister" of the victims

And it's not a good idea to talk about the Child with the Court decision on the children. Even if you haven't done anything wrong, you should be careful of how it is received

 

[Betty P]

The investigation of a complex case like this one is never "just domestic" or "just organized crime". All tracks are explored. People call in to report all kinds of things. This is what lead to the arrest of JR. So when 700 leads are provided in an investigation, at some point Homeland Security is involved.

But in the end this case could end up as domestic

Yes, we know all "tracks are explored", but DHS is one that is seldom called upon. In an area where BCI is notoriously reluctant to include outside federal agencies in it's activities, it's unusual that they would call on DHS for anything. DEA, FBI and others can usually provide assistance any local LE would need for a drug related killing. FBI would be able to provide any assistance needed for a domestic violence-type killing.

There's a pattern of DeWine, BCI and local LE overseeing cases in this area go "cold". Part of that pattern involves lightly involving the FBI, but otherwise conducting the investigations in deep secrecy as they go unsolved. Contrast it to the way local LE hands similar crimes in other areas of the state and you'll see a big difference. In CLE, FBI is routinely involved in big cases all the way through. They're often resolved.

 

[Dudly]

It's eerie how similar this is. LE statements and answers to the questions are almost identical.

The only thing missing from the Rhoden Case vs this case (and Newsome and Eapmons) is the prescription pill connection....


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Same answers, different case. Almost like they have a script to read...

 

[Betty P]

West Virginia distributing 8,000 opioid antidote kits in effort to stem overdoses

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/west-vi...id-antidote-kits-in-effort-to-stem-overdoses/

West Virginia has become the epicenter for opiate addiction. The state saw 725 overdose deaths in 2015 and they expect data for 2016 to be even higher. The state is relying on Naloxone to save lives. They administered over 4,186 doses last year and expect to use even more this year.

The article states the price of Naloxone has risen (of course) over 500% in recent years. The average price is now $4,500 per dose. Sounds like a viable market for Hadsell Chemical and Relevant Compounding to pursue.

 

[Cajun Snooper]

Yes this is pretty interesting. If I ever get murdered I hope it's not in pike co.

Or in Jeff Davis Parish ,Jennings, Louisiana.
IMO. Lol

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[RAISINISBACK]

For those considering this crime was committed by family members, why would Dept. Of Homeland Security be involved in the case? There's no assistance they provide that couldn't be offered by another government agency if this were strictly a domestic criminal case.

Organized crime. If the murders were committed by say a motorcycle club, or over chicken or dog fighting, or a loosely associated group of drug dealers.

 

[rsd1200]

Today, Dept. of Homeland Security will:

https://www.dhs.gov/todayDHSwill#

 

[1othefew]

I sent a msg to get verified but I don't know how long that takes .. as for the money. I'm not sure as posted by someone earlier they didn't know if it was on his legs or just near him at some point I plan to ask DS hisself but until then I can only speculate .. if it was just near him; I know in the mornings before work he would empty his pockets on the bed (usually a good bit of money not organized but just crammed together) but if it was thrown on his legs while laying there I don't know why. Maybe someone owed him money and threw it there as a msg saying "here you go now we're even". I really don't know nothing makes sense to me either you'd think after ten months some things would start making sense but even once it's solved I still may not.. I'll def never understand why the kids had to die that's for sure  CRjr was a good kid. A little rambunctious but that's part of being a kid from the country

I'm terribly sorry I posted wrong info in this one; I do Not know who DS is. I was always under the assumption that a neighbor was the one who found KR, and had mistaken DS for Mr. DH. Please disregard this statement. Sorry again.

 

[rsd1200]

Organized crime. If the murders were committed by say a motorcycle club, or over chicken or dog fighting, or a loosely associated group of drug dealers.

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If they just cut off ties from the latter, it could only have to be one person they dealt with, and that might get messy. You can't just say, "I quit. This isn't what I thought it would be. Have a nice life." If you are moving in certain circles.

 

[jk204]

I'm terribly sorry I posted wrong info in this one; I do Not know who DS is. I was always under the assumption that a neighbor was the one who found KR, and had mistaken DS for Mr. DH. Please disregard this statement. Sorry again.

DS is Donald Stone.

 

[jk204]

Today, Dept. of Homeland Security will:

https://www.dhs.gov/todayDHSwill#

I apologize for a post I did yesterday. I have a dark sense of humour and I like to stimulate reaction. But it was a bad idea and it was removed by mod. I will be careful.

What I meant is this:

It was reported in the mass media previously that thousands of pages of social media were analysed. It's fair to assume a small part of this involved participants from outside the US. In such case, DHS is a federal agency that could help identify foreign participants.

 

[jk204]

Same answers, different case. Almost like they have a script to read...

I think there is a big difference in the script. In the Rhoden case Dewine said:

- killers were familiar with the victims, their homes and routines
- some interviewed have not been candid with us. We don't take to that kindly

I think we tend to forget that. I will post the words and the link regularly

 

[Elley Mae]

I'm terribly sorry I posted wrong info in this one; I do Not know who DS is. I was always under the assumption that a neighbor was the one who found KR, and had mistaken DS for Mr. DH. Please disregard this statement. Sorry again.

I have missed this, who is this?

 

[Cajun Snooper]

Sure would like to know exactly WHO or WHOM is not being candid. I still think it's personal very close.
IMO

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[Canaille]

Today, Dept. of Homeland Security will:

https://www.dhs.gov/todayDHSwill#

this has had me wondering if there is some involvement in child *advertiser censored*.

 

[rsd1200]

I apologize for a post I did yesterday. I have a dark sense of humour and I like to stimulate reaction. But it was a bad idea and it was removed by mod. I will be careful.

What I meant is this:

It was reported in the mass media previously that thousands of pages of social media were analysed. It's fair to assume a small part of this involved participants from outside the US. In such case, DHS is a federal agency that could help identify foreign participants.

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I've a dark sense of humor as well. No problem here.

 

[Betty P]

I think there is a big difference in the script. In the Rhoden case Dewine said:

- killers were familiar with the victims, their homes and routines
- some interviewed have not been candid with us. We don't take to that kindly

I think we tend to forget that. I will post the words and the link regularly

He has to say those things because there were many more victims at 4 different locations than in previous local unsolved murders of people late at night in their own homes.

Otherwise, the manner of handling these cases is similar - very little information made public, vague tough talk and, pleas to the public to turn in the killer while reassuring same public that they're safe. Ultimately cases all go cold.

It might be understandable if keeping quiet on these murders was helping them catch the bad guys. But this has been going on for nearly a decade, with more and more people killed. It's also difficult to believe with so many mysterious hits in such a small, sparsely populated area that they have no idea who has been doing it nor how to stop them.

Whatever their strategy has been, it isn't working.