OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #3

[beach]

Why is my post waiting moderator approval?.

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[KKearns]

Do we know who was shot 9 times. The "anger" might be directed at this person.

Nope we don't know yet.

 

[black_squirrel]

CH is not the father of that baby. He was just Hanna's current boyfriend.

How do you know? He may be the father, I think.

 

[Tillicum]

Nope can't make sense of all that and it bugs me for several reasons.

One she only talks about one scene on the 911 call. Now that could just be part of the call.

BUT.. cops said she went in Chris's house and family waved down a deputy and they found the other two scenes.


Stories aren't matching and I don't know which one is correct due to other things cops and DA said that we weren't as they said.

Also I don't think they are lying about going into the other scenes, though I don't know why that isn't on the call or if it is, it was clipped and the public told something different.

I think she went into Chris's house first and then she went to the other two before the deputies got there but after her 911 call. Which would explain why they flagged down the deputies, to let them know about the other victims. It's possible considering the emotional strain he's under that Leonard got them confused IMO. Has LE stated that Bobbi didn't go into the other homes before the deputies arrived?

 

[rsd1200]

The more I read the more it becomes clear.. Yes he knew this family through legal issues. He may not have done the arresting, he knew them.

And my question is still there.. Why say you didn't?

Probably because he doesn't "know", know them. As in, has never sat down and had lunch with them. I have relatives who have been arrested over and over again but the Sheriff of that county does not "know" them nor our family.

 

[The OG]

Let's talk about this and make a timeline. I'm not sure I have everything right, so everyone feel free to chip in.

LE Version:
Bobby Jo arrives at Chris Sr's house to feed the dogs at 7am
She enters Chris Sr's house using a key (why?) and finds 2 bodies
Calls 911 at 7:49 am

Leonard Manley Version:
Bobby Jo arrives at Chris Sr's house to feed the dogs at 7am every day
She enters FREDDIE's house (how?) and finds Freddie and Hannah dead
Instead of immediately calling 911, she then enters Chris Sr's house (using a key) and finds 2 bodies
At some point, she calls Leonard. Leonard and his son come over. (Where do they live?)
All 3 of them go to Dana's house and find Dana and Hanna dead.
Bobbie Jo calls 911 at 7:49 am (from where?)

Can anyone make any sense of that?
Note that LE took the truck that Leonard and his son drove to the crime scene (Dana's house?)

This the timeline I imagine:

Bobbi Jo goes to 4077 to feed the chickens and dogs sometime well before 7:49am
She finds the door locked, use the spare key and finds CR1 and Gary dead
She calls her dad and brother, or dad and then brother.
Leonard or James comes to 4077
James or Leonard, whichever doesn't go to 4077, checks out 3122, perhaps after trying to call them and getting no response.
Bobbi calls 911
James/Leonard calls Bobbi and Leonard/James back and reports that "they got Dana, Hanna May, and CR2 too".
Whoever is with Bobbi goes next door to 4199 and finds Frankie and Hannah Hazel dead.
LE arrives
Donald Stone hears/sees news on the TV and checks on Kenneth at 799 Left Fork. Maybe he checked on other Rhoden cousins too, maybe not, but wouldn't we all like to know if he did.

 

[KKearns]

Probably because he doesn't "know", know them. As in, has never sat down and had lunch with them. I have relatives who have been arrested over and over again but the Sheriff of that county does not "know" them nor our family.

Ummm.. No.

 

[ScotsPaddy]

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[Doghairrules]

Can anyone get to the article on the Pike County Sheriff website about the previous THC Lab bust? The link is there but the story won't come up for me.


http://wp2.pikecosheriff.com

It comes up for me but the story is down on the page. Try this link:

http://wp2.pikecosheriff.com/?p=1483

 

[KKearns]

I think she went into Chris's house first and then she went to the other two before the deputies got there but after her 911 call. Which would explain why they flagged down the deputies, to let them know about the other victims. It's possible considering the emotional strain he's under that Leonard got them confused IMO. Has LE stated that Bobbi didn't go into the other homes before the deputies arrived?

Yeah, the report has been she went to Chris's house with the key and family flagged down deputies and the other two sites were discovered.

I think they went in all locations befire calling the cops or maybe after calling, but the Sheriff, DA and the 911 call haven't presented it as that. I heard that about flagging down the deputies and the other locations being discovered then, several times the day it happened.

 

[The OG]

Probably because he doesn't "know", know them. As in, has never sat down and had lunch with them. I have relatives who have been arrested over and over again but the Sheriff of that county does not "know" them nor our family.

He really emphasized that he didn't deal with them "personally". All that means to me is he isn't the one that cited/arrested them, but maybe his office had. Keep in mind he has only been the sheriff for a very short time. This family could have been the most criminal family in the county (they aren't) and he could probably still make that claim.

 

[KKearns]

He really emphasized that he didn't deal with them "personally". All that means to me is he isn't the one that cited/arrested them, but maybe his office had. Keep in mind he has only been the sheriff for a very short time. This family could have been the most criminal family in the county (they aren't) and he could probably still make that claim.

He made it sound like they weren't known to LE. He has worked there for 20 years. They were known. I have LE friends look at that statement, they agree with me, seems a stupid thing to try and spin.

 

[KKearns]

Looking more and more like we aren't getting that update we were told would happen today.

 

[mrssmith23]

I will chime in with another question,
*why is Dana's brother living at their dad's house and not with his wife?

Perhaps they are separated, just not legally yet.

 

[rsd1200]

How do you know? He may be the father, I think.

Their relationship started on 10/27/2015 per CH's FB. There's not really any posts or likes by her on his FB prior to 9/22/2015. She'd had to have met him, and gotten pregnant in mid July for the baby to be his.

 

[The OG]

Their relationship started on 10/27/2015 per CH's FB. That would make her four months pregnant when he stated they were in a relationship. There's not really any posts or likes by her on his FB prior to that that I've seen until 9/22/2015. She'd had to have met him, and gotten pregnant in mid July for the baby to be his.

I think you put too much stock in FB relationship status postings. Not everyone announces this on the exact day the relationships starts. Some may think about posting it weeks or months after it starts. I have friends that post they are married on FB and they have been married for years.

 

[lonesomepaws]

Nothing I've seen definitely proves who the father is. As a matter of fact, I doubt any of the parties involved truly know. CH's relationship with her could have started BECAUSE she found out she was pregnant and believed he COULD be the father. I would welcome concrete proof to say otherwise.

You're just going to have to take everyone's word that this has already been figured out. Concrete proof is not allowed per TOS

 

[Doghairrules]

So both Gary & Kenneth had wives back in KY? [emoji33] or am I reading that wrong?

I feel like with this family there is no shortage of people named Kenneth. [emoji12]

 

[winterrose]

New article on the Chillicothe Gazette about Pike County Sheriff Charlie Reader:

http://www.chillicothegazette.com/s...lie-reader-pike-county-mass-murders/83559628/

Reader became interim sheriff in early May 2015 after the resignation of Rich Henderson, who had served nearly seven years before leaving to take a security job at the former Piketon uranium enrichment plant.

Two months before he was appointed, the sheriff’s office was involved in a high-speed chase that left a man dead and two deputies on leave until the summer while state investigators looked into the case.
On Dec. 3, one of those deputies, Joel Jenkins, was off duty and showing a handgun to a neighbor when the gun fired and killed the neighbor.
One week later, a grand jury indicted Jenkins on murder and reckless homicide charges in the March 28, 2015, death of Robert Rooker after the chase; plus one count each of involuntary manslaughter, reckless homicide and tampering with evidence in connection with the Dec. 3 incident, which caused the death of 40-year-old Jason Brady.

Reader fired Jenkins before reinstating him to unpaid administrative leave as called for under the department's labor agreement.
The cases against Jenkins are pending.

All of this is very interesting, the video of the incident with 26-year-old Robert C. Rooker being chased down and killed when Joel Jenkins and Paul Henderson open fired through his windshield March 2015 is on Chris Jr's facebook page.

The incident with Joel Jenkins and Robert Rooker
http://www.chillicothegazette.com/s...t-sheds-light-pike-chase-mans-death/26340217/
WAVERLY – According to the official incident report, Special Deputy Paul Henderson — the sheriff's brother, who serves as a volunteer deputy and works just 16 hours a month — saw a black Ford Ranger pickup truck traveling eastbound on Ohio 124, just southeast of Idaho, around 11 p.m. March 28. When Henderson activated his radar gun, it clocked a speed of 52 mph in a 45 miles per hour zone.
Comments to this incident are interesting.

On Dec. 3, one of those deputies, Joel Jenkins, was off duty and showing a handgun to a neighbor when the gun fired and killed the neighbor. One week later, a grand jury indicted Jenkins on murder and reckless homicide charges in the March 28, 2015. Reader fired Jenkins before reinstating him to unpaid administrative leave as called for under the department's labor agreement. The cases against Jenkins are pending.

"Since Reader has been sheriff, Price says the effort to catch drug dealers has "exploded." He estimates he’s signed more than twice the amount of search warrants related to drug investigations and buys than in his first few years as judge, most of them using undercover officers and confidential informants."

 

[cujenn81]

I feel like with this family there is no shortage of people named Kenneth. [emoji12]

Or Chris. Or Clarence.